i5 6500 vs Xeon 1231 v3 for gaming?

[RespawnCake]

I currently live in Asia so prices are bit different.But i can get Skylake i5 6500+mobo for the same money as xeon 1231v3+mobo.(1151 mobo are quite more expensive than 1150).


Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.


I'm stuck in between those two,since skylake is new architecture but still xeon those have 4/8 cores/threads,which is great for futureproofing a bit.

Note that it will be used for gaming only.

 

[KKAW]

I currently live in Asia so prices are bit different.But i can get Skylake i5 6500+mobo for the same money as xeon 1231v3+mobo.(1151 mobo are quite more expensive than 1150).


Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.


I'm stuck in between those two,since skylake is new architecture but still xeon those have 4/8 cores/threads,which is great for futureproofing a bit.

Note that it will be used for gaming only.

For gaming purposes the i5 6500 will do better.

If you are sure that you will need 8 threads then the Xeon should be your choice, however for gaming alone the i5 6500 should be your option.

 

[RCFProd]

I currently live in Asia so prices are bit different.But i can get Skylake i5 6500+mobo for the same money as xeon 1231v3+mobo.(1151 mobo are quite more expensive than 1150).


Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.


I'm stuck in between those two,since skylake is new architecture but still xeon those have 4/8 cores/threads,which is great for futureproofing a bit.

Note that it will be used for gaming only.

For gaming purposes the i5 6500 will do better.

If you are sure that you will need 8 threads then the Xeon should be your choice, however for gaming alone the i5 6500 should be your option.

How do you come to the conclusion that the i5-6500 is better for gaming? Or do you mean in terms of for gaming a 4 threaded quad core is all you need? You never know, some games use hyper threading benefitially for performance. The Xeon E3 1231 V3 I think is not worse for gaming than the i5-6500 running at 3.2 Ghz.

Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.

Yes, however it is clocked 0.5 Ghz lower than an i7-4790 plus it doesn't have onboard graphics. You will see slightly less powerful performance because of the lower clock speed (3.5 Ghz vs. i7-4790's 4.0 Ghz).

 

[Geek2015]

Ok, let's compare both:
Intel Xeon E3-1231 v3: 3.2 GHz - 4-core, 8-threads
Intel Core™ i5-6500: 3.2 GHz - 4-core, 4-threads


Most new games are optimized to take advantages of more than 4 threads, therefore there is a chance of performance boost by 10-15% for 4-extra threads on Xeon processor.

i was looking at this chart a few days ago:
http://www.reguluspc.com/chart/cpu-ranking-comparison-chart.html


The i5-6500 (in high-end category) is a good processor but nothing close to i7-4790K (in extreme category). Also don't forget that intel "K" series are capable CPUs for overclocking.

 

[RCFProd]

I think that the chart is useless.

The i5-6500, compared to the i7-6700k (stronger than the i7-4790k) is just the same processor as the i5-6500 but clocked at 4.0 Ghz and has 4 extra threads.

Going against your argument that most games support hyper threading, that's incorrect. Only a handful of games support hyper threading.

 

[Geek2015]

I didn't quite get it!
"The i5-6500, compared to the i7-6700k (stronger than the i7-4790k) is just the same processor as the i5-6500 but clocked at 4.0 Ghz and has 4 extra threads. "

 

[RCFProd]

You have to elaborate further what you don't get?

Difference between i5-6500 and i7-6700k = Higher clock speed (3.5 Ghz vs 4.0 Ghz) and 8 threads instead of the i5-6500's 4 threads.

Plus that the 6700k can be overclocked on.

 

[KKAW]

I currently live in Asia so prices are bit different.But i can get Skylake i5 6500+mobo for the same money as xeon 1231v3+mobo.(1151 mobo are quite more expensive than 1150).


Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.


I'm stuck in between those two,since skylake is new architecture but still xeon those have 4/8 cores/threads,which is great for futureproofing a bit.

Note that it will be used for gaming only.

For gaming purposes the i5 6500 will do better.

If you are sure that you will need 8 threads then the Xeon should be your choice, however for gaming alone the i5 6500 should be your option.

How do you come to the conclusion that the i5-6500 is better for gaming? Or do you mean in terms of for gaming a 4 threaded quad core is all you need? You never know, some games use hyper threading benefitially for performance. The Xeon E3 1231 V3 I think is not worse for gaming than the i5-6500 running at 3.2 Ghz.

Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.

Yes, however it is clocked 0.5 Ghz lower than an i7-4790 plus it doesn't have onboard graphics. You will see slightly less powerful performance because of the lower clock speed (3.5 Ghz vs. i7-4790's 4.0 Ghz).

Xeon 1231 V3 will perform near identically to a i7 4770.
If you have went through several of the newer skylake benchmarks you will know about the performance increase in those newer CPU's.
Keep that in mind and here are a few benchmarks of modern games.

As you can see here the i5 6500 is most likely to have higher fps compared to the Xeon. The i5 2500K an older i5 has only 1 fps difference in performance.

I actually find it funny how when hyperthreading is turned off the average fps is better haha, when it is compared to a i5 3570K, another older generation i5 it still does equal or better than the i7 4790K.

Couple more benchmarks. As you can see i can confidently say the i5 6500 will do better in gaming compared to the Xeon.

 

[RespawnCake]

I currently live in Asia so prices are bit different.But i can get Skylake i5 6500+mobo for the same money as xeon 1231v3+mobo.(1151 mobo are quite more expensive than 1150).


Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.


I'm stuck in between those two,since skylake is new architecture but still xeon those have 4/8 cores/threads,which is great for futureproofing a bit.

Note that it will be used for gaming only.

For gaming purposes the i5 6500 will do better.

If you are sure that you will need 8 threads then the Xeon should be your choice, however for gaming alone the i5 6500 should be your option.

How do you come to the conclusion that the i5-6500 is better for gaming? Or do you mean in terms of for gaming a 4 threaded quad core is all you need? You never know, some games use hyper threading benefitially for performance. The Xeon E3 1231 V3 I think is not worse for gaming than the i5-6500 running at 3.2 Ghz.

Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.

Yes, however it is clocked 0.5 Ghz lower than an i7-4790 plus it doesn't have onboard graphics. You will see slightly less powerful performance because of the lower clock speed (3.5 Ghz vs. i7-4790's 4.0 Ghz).

Xeon 1231 V3 will perform near identically to a i7 4770.
If you have went through several of the newer skylake benchmarks you will know about the performance increase in those newer CPU's.
Keep that in mind and here are a few benchmarks of modern games.

As you can see here the i5 6500 is most likely to have higher fps compared to the Xeon. The i5 2500K an older i5 has only 1 fps difference in performance.
...

So since i will be keeping this cpu for next at least 4-5years would it be better to go with xeon 1231v3 or i5 6500? In a 1-2 year maybe those 4threads will become more useful.Note that i can get same price for xeon 1231v3 and i5 6500

 

[RCFProd]

As you can see here the i5 6500 is most likely to have higher fps compared to the Xeon.

I'm not convinced yet.

 

[KKAW]

I currently live in Asia so prices are bit different.But i can get Skylake i5 6500+mobo for the same money as xeon 1231v3+mobo.(1151 mobo are quite more expensive than 1150).


Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.


I'm stuck in between those two,since skylake is new architecture but still xeon those have 4/8 cores/threads,which is great for futureproofing a bit.

Note that it will be used for gaming only.

For gaming purposes the i5 6500 will do better.

If you are sure that you will need 8 threads then the Xeon should be your choice, however for gaming alone the i5 6500 should be your option.

How do you come to the conclusion that the i5-6500 is better for gaming? Or do you mean in terms of for gaming a 4 threaded quad core is all you need? You never know, some games use hyper threading benefitially for performance. The Xeon E3 1231 V3 I think is not worse for gaming than the i5-6500 running at 3.2 Ghz.

Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.

Yes, however it is clocked 0.5 Ghz lower than an i7-4790 plus it doesn't have onboard graphics. You will see slightly less powerful performance because of the lower clock speed (3.5 Ghz vs. i7-4790's 4.0 Ghz).

Xeon 1231 V3 will perform near identically to a i7 4770.
If you have went through several of the newer skylake benchmarks you will know about the performance increase in those newer CPU's.
Keep that in mind and here are a few benchmarks of modern games.

As you can see here the i5 6500 is most likely to have higher fps compared to the Xeon. The i5 2500K an older i5 has only 1 fps difference in performance.
...

So since i will be keeping this cpu for next at least 4-5years would it be better to go with xeon 1231v3 or i5 6500? In a 1-2 year maybe those 4threads will become more useful.Note that i can get same price for xeon 1231v3 and i5 6500

As you can see by the evidence I gave you the i5 4690 will basically perform like an i7 4770. Also the i7 4770 will basically perform like a Xeon. All in all the performance difference is near none when it comes to gaming.

As you can see by this video the increase in performance from i5 4690K to a i5 6600 is noticeable. Perhaps a 5 ~ 10fps increase in performance and in CPU based games even more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ_5p9wd2dk

About the extra 4 threads. If you are a streamer, video editor, 3D rendering, archieving, etc. The 4 threads will help you. Most definitely and it will make your life a lot easier, however as shown before in the current state the extra 4 threads are meaningless except for a couple of games that increase a bit in fps. It's funny because in one of the benchmarks shown before when the 4 threads on a i7 4790K was disabled the fps increased

However it is most definitely correct that slowly games are beginning to add features that utilize the extra threads. However it will be a while until we get there. Game developers will not suddenly make their new games utilize more threads, on reason may be because mainstream i5 processors only have 4 threads and they still have to appeal to a big market.

Some may argue that the extra threads on the FX 8350 for example will increase in performance in DX 12, however after seeing the CPU benchmarks of a to be released on DX 12 game all CPU seems to have increased in performance and the game developers are not specifically enhancing their software in order to give the higher threaded CPUs a boost.

My verdict is that unless you actually use 8 threaded programs like i stated before i would still go for the i5 6500, perhaps when you upgrade from the i5 6500 to the next generation CPU's you may be interested in a 8 threaded one because by then games actually may take advantage of more threads.

 

[Geek2015]

I currently live in Asia so prices are bit different.But i can get Skylake i5 6500+mobo for the same money as xeon 1231v3+mobo.(1151 mobo are quite more expensive than 1150).


Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.


I'm stuck in between those two,since skylake is new architecture but still xeon those have 4/8 cores/threads,which is great for futureproofing a bit.

Note that it will be used for gaming only.

For gaming purposes the i5 6500 will do better.

If you are sure that you will need 8 threads then the Xeon should be your choice, however for gaming alone the i5 6500 should be your option.

How do you come to the conclusion that the i5-6500 is better for gaming? Or do you mean in terms of for gaming a 4 threaded quad core is all you need? You never know, some games use hyper threading benefitially for performance. The Xeon E3 1231 V3 I think is not worse for gaming than the i5-6500 running at 3.2 Ghz.

Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.

Yes, however it is clocked 0.5 Ghz lower than an i7-4790 plus it doesn't have onboard graphics. You will see slightly less powerful performance because of the lower clock speed (3.5 Ghz vs. i7-4790's 4.0 Ghz).

Xeon 1231 V3 will perform near identically to a i7 4770.
If you have went through several of the newer skylake benchmarks you will know about the performance increase in those newer CPU's.
Keep that in mind and here are a few benchmarks of modern games.

As you can see here the i5 6500 is most likely to have higher fps compared to the Xeon. The i5 2500K an older i5 has only 1 fps difference in performance.
...

So since i will be keeping this cpu for next at least 4-5years would it be better to go with xeon 1231v3 or i5 6500? In a 1-2 year maybe those 4threads will become more useful.Note that i can get same price for xeon 1231v3 and i5 6500

As you can see by the evidence I gave you the i5 4690 will basically perform like an i7 4770. Also the i7 4770 will basically perform like a Xeon. All in all the performance difference is near none when it comes to gaming.

As you can see by this video the increase in performance from i5 4690K to a i5 6600 is noticeable. Perhaps a 5 ~ 10fps increase in performance and in CPU based games even more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ_5p9wd2dk

About the extra 4 threads. If you are a streamer, video editor, 3D rendering, archieving, etc. The 4 threads will help you. Most definitely and it will make your life a lot easier, however as shown before in the current state the extra 4 threads are meaningless except for a couple of games that increase a bit in fps. It's funny because in one of the benchmarks shown before when the 4 threads on a i7 4790K was disabled the fps increased

However it is most definitely correct that slowly games are beginning to add features that utilize the extra threads. However it will be a while until we get there. Game developers will not suddenly make their new games utilize more threads, on reason may be because mainstream i5 processors only have 4 threads and they still have to appeal to a big market.

Some may argue that the extra threads on the FX 8350 for example will increase in performance in DX 12, however after seeing the CPU benchmarks of a to be released on DX 12 game all CPU seems to have increased in performance and the game developers are not specifically enhancing their software in order to give the higher threaded CPUs a boost.

My verdict is that unless you actually use 8 threaded programs like i stated before i would still go for the i5 6500, perhaps when you upgrade from the i5 6500 to the next generation CPU's you may be interested in a 8 threaded one because by then games actually may take advantage of more threads.

The reason for performance boost by new i5 and i7 gen are DDR4 memory. A fair test would be to use a DDR3 2400MHz on i5-4690K and DDR4 2400MHz on i5-6600K then run the test again!

 

[KKAW]

I currently live in Asia so prices are bit different.But i can get Skylake i5 6500+mobo for the same money as xeon 1231v3+mobo.(1151 mobo are quite more expensive than 1150).


Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.


I'm stuck in between those two,since skylake is new architecture but still xeon those have 4/8 cores/threads,which is great for futureproofing a bit.

Note that it will be used for gaming only.

For gaming purposes the i5 6500 will do better.

If you are sure that you will need 8 threads then the Xeon should be your choice, however for gaming alone the i5 6500 should be your option.

How do you come to the conclusion that the i5-6500 is better for gaming? Or do you mean in terms of for gaming a 4 threaded quad core is all you need? You never know, some games use hyper threading benefitially for performance. The Xeon E3 1231 V3 I think is not worse for gaming than the i5-6500 running at 3.2 Ghz.

Is it true that xeon 1231 v3 is almost like i7 4970 without iGPU and ability to OC(both which i don't need)?
It does have 4cores/8 thread,and im planning to keep this cpu for at least 4-5 years.

Yes, however it is clocked 0.5 Ghz lower than an i7-4790 plus it doesn't have onboard graphics. You will see slightly less powerful performance because of the lower clock speed (3.5 Ghz vs. i7-4790's 4.0 Ghz).

Xeon 1231 V3 will perform near identically to a i7 4770.
If you have went through several of the newer skylake benchmarks you will know about the performance increase in those newer CPU's.
Keep that in mind and here are a few benchmarks of modern games.

As you can see here the i5 6500 is most likely to have higher fps compared to the Xeon. The i5 2500K an older i5 has only 1 fps difference in performance.
...

So since i will be keeping this cpu for next at least 4-5years would it be better to go with xeon 1231v3 or i5 6500? In a 1-2 year maybe those 4threads will become more useful.Note that i can get same price for xeon 1231v3 and i5 6500

As you can see by the evidence I gave you the i5 4690 will basically perform like an i7 4770. Also the i7 4770 will basically perform like a Xeon. All in all the performance difference is near none when it comes to gaming.

As you can see by this video the increase in performance from i5 4690K to a i5 6600 is noticeable. Perhaps a 5 ~ 10fps increase in performance and in CPU based games even more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ_5p9wd2dk

About the extra 4 threads. If you are a streamer, video editor, 3D rendering, archieving, etc. The 4 threads will help you. Most definitely and it will make your life a lot easier, however as shown before in the current state the extra 4 threads are meaningless except for a couple of games that increase a bit in fps. It's funny because in one of the benchmarks shown before when the 4 threads on a i7 4790K was disabled the fps increased

However it is most definitely correct that slowly games are beginning to add features that utilize the extra threads. However it will be a while until we get there. Game developers will not suddenly make their new games utilize more threads, on reason may be because mainstream i5 processors only have 4 threads and they still have to appeal to a big market.

Some may argue that the extra threads on the FX 8350 for example will increase in performance in DX 12, however after seeing the CPU benchmarks of a to be released on DX 12 game all CPU seems to have increased in performance and the game developers are not specifically enhancing their software in order to give the higher threaded CPUs a boost.

My verdict is that unless you actually use 8 threaded programs like i stated before i would still go for the i5 6500, perhaps when you upgrade from the i5 6500 to the next generation CPU's you may be interested in a 8 threaded one because by then games actually may take advantage of more threads.

The reason for performance boost by new i5 and i7 gen are DDR4 memory. A fair test would be to use a DDR3 2400MHz on i5-4690K and DDR4 2400MHz on i5-6600K then run the test again!

I really don't think fair tests are relavent to the OP, he just wants to know if getting a xeon + mobo + ddr3 is better than i5 6500 + mobo + ddr4.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8959/ddr4-haswell-e-scaling-review-2133-to-3200-with-gskill-corsair-adata-and-crucial/8
Direct Quoting:
"Overall, comparing DDR4 to DDR3, there is little difference to separate the two. In a couple of small instances one is better than the other"

Also do keep in mind that DDR4 is equally a setback because of the high latency so this is expected that the performance difference between DDR3 and DDR4 is next to none.