i5 6600 Or 6600K For Gaming

[Aaron Chavez]

Hello all,

Another build I plan on making. It will consist of 16GB 2400 RAM with a 1060 GPU.
My 2 CPU's im looking at is a 6600 or 6600K. Now my application for this system will be gaming,
1080P 60FPS possibly 1440P. Im not crazy about overclocking CPU's, So the questions are, should i just stay with the 6600? Will it bottleneck the 1060 GPU for what I want it to do? So far my total would be around $1000 (see below link for possible parts list, GPU not added because its not on the list yet).

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/C7zCLD



Thanks

 

[Gam3r01]

There will be no significant difference between the two processors, if you would rather save the money as well as not OC you would be fine with the 6600.
Do note, that processor runs 2133MHz RAM, not 2400.

 

[Aaron Chavez]

There will be no significant difference between the two processors, if you would rather save the money as well as not OC you would be fine with the 6600.
Do note, that processor runs 2133MHz RAM, not 2400.

The lowest MHz in ram for DDR4 i could find is 2400, would it just dumb it down to that speed?

 

[Gam3r01]

Half the price, proper speeds:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $35.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-02 15:22 EDT-0400

 

[HyperCat]

well a i5 6600K is more future-proof because you can overclock it.

 

[Gam3r01]

That is not necessarily a valid statement.
Just because you can OC it does not really make it more "futureproof" (not that such a thing really exists these days).
Since both processors share an identically powerful IPC clock speeds really do not add that much to performance. By the time a 6600 will not run games properly (many years) the 6600k will struggle just as much, even with a sizable OC.

 

[Isokolon]

up to 4.5GHz there is a 2% gain in OCa 6600k.
so much for futureproving
also going with a GTX1060, if anything than the GPU will "bottleneck" long before the CPU becomes an issue.

 

[iRon_Man22]

well a i5 6600K is more future-proof because you can overclock it.

But for what the OP will need it for the i5 6600 will work perfectly, if you don't plan on overclocking and have a budget to keep, picking a "non-K" CPU is a good way to save $$. No it will not, at all, bottle neck your 1060. Have fun with you build!

 

[Aaron Chavez]

Half the price, proper speeds:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $35.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-02 15:22 EDT-0400

Thanks for the parts list update

 

[JackNaylorPE]

1. The CPU choice is simply about overclocking .... if you're not going to do it, you don't need the K or a Z170 series board. How does the K affect gaming ? Not so much on average fps .... but for min fps, on many games (and more so applications) you can see drastic improvements. For example, Anadtech's CPU benchmark shows Min fps for SoM going from 44.85 to 59.34 fps with a K series processor. That's a 32.3% improvement .... I'd call that pretty significant

Me... I'd use the 6600k w/ Gigabyte Z170N-WiFi
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MWbkcf/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz170nwifi

2. Same for RAM speed. THGs tests showed that some games (Metro 2033) showed no improvement with 2400 over 1600 DDR3. Other games (F1) showed as much as an 11% improvement in fps.

I'd definitely stick with 2 x 8GB..... nee games (i.e Witcher 3 and GTAV) show a definitive improvement with 16GB over 8GB ... but of course only when, it's not nerfed by some other component on the system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDkKDqThyBo

Either processor supports well over 2133 ... check here and you will see over 3000.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/extreme-memory-profile-xmp.html

Still have to check and see what MoBo supports and if latest BIOS upgrade changes that. Gigabyte board supports 3200

3. You might fit 2-3 games on the SSD ... the rest is going to be on that extremely slow HD.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2013/-17-PCMark-7-Gaming,2915.html

Seagate SSHD - 9.76 MB/s
WD Black - 6.34 MB/s
WD Blue - 4.01 MB/s

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/ftPfrH/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dx001

4. The chosen MoBo has a substandard audio solution (ALC 887) ... Gaming MoBos are typically 2 tiers up at ALC 1150. The Gigabyte board has ALC 1150.

5. The G1 is a PSU I would avoid
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/fZyFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii520bronze
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/bTnG3C/xfx-power-supply-p1500bxtfr
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/2tckcf/xfx-power-supply-xfxts550w

6. If ya want to consider other cases, ones I's look at would include
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/nTJkcf/phanteks-case-phes215psrd

 

[HyperCat]

up to 4.5GHz there is a 2% gain in OCa 6600k.
so much for futureproving
also going with a GTX1060, if anything than the GPU will "bottleneck" long before the CPU becomes an issue.

When your CPU gets old, it can help to OC it in order to keep up with system requirments and such, and the gain can increase overtime.

 

[Gam3r01]

up to 4.5GHz there is a 2% gain in OCa 6600k.
so much for futureproving
also going with a GTX1060, if anything than the GPU will "bottleneck" long before the CPU becomes an issue.

When your CPU gets old, it can help to OC it in order to keep up with system requirments and such, and the gain can increase overtime.

Could you possibly explain your logic (or better yet source it) as to why clock speeds would be a bigger benefit over time? Thats not how that works.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

You can argue this both ways and still prove you are right with references no matter which side of the argument you choose. You can pick RAM speed and, again, you can prove either side of the argument depending on what games you choose. You can pick RAM amount, and again, you can prove either side of the argument depending on what games you choose. Same thing w/ CPU overclocking.

What's faster between identical cars the 6 cyl or the 8 cyl ? Well how would you tell

Most games are GPU dependent... but a few are also RAM Speed dependent (F1)... and a few are RAM amount dependent (GTAV / Witcher 3) ... but more games are CPU dependent, especially in multiplayer mode, than RAM. Problem is finding sites thaty want to invest the time and effort into looking at the nitty gritty. Anadtech's CPU Bench is limited in the respect it only looks at about 5 games. But, when we look past average fps, we see that minimum fps can be affected by RAM amount, RAM Speed and CPU.

Let's look at Minimum fps in Shadow of Mordor on an Asus GTX 980 Strix 4GB ($560) 1080p Ultra with a stock and overclocked Skylake CPU

At stock settings we manage 44.85 minimum fps ... and yet overclocked we manage 59.34 minimum fps, that's quite a big improvement at 32.3%. In many games, it will be indistinguishable, in some the stock will actually take a hair's breadth lead ... but there will be games where the CPU overclock makes a considerable difference.

And if one gets into video recording of gaming sessions ... then there's a 15% advantage