i5 7600 vs i5 7600k

[Yummiesttag]

I do not stream on do video encoding just gaming on a 1080p monitor, I have a fx-8350 and am in dire need to update. Which one would be better if I get the k series I myself will probably not overclock it maybe down the road when performance suffers on new titles. So should I get the k for .3 boost in base frequency and also be safer for the future or go with the 7600

 

[chemmajorp53]

I wouldn't get the 7600k if you're not going to overclock, it would be better to get an i7 7700 and a cheap motherboard. The i5 7600 sounds perfect for you. The base frequency of the K doesn't matter that much because there's only a 100mhz increase in turbo frequency with the K.

 

[chemmajorp53]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Xqsjc

Maybe a list like this, with the cooler optional if you want the computer to be a bit quieter.

 

[Ecky]

You might even save a few dollars with the i5 7500, it's only a tiny bit slower. The Intel stock cooler should be plenty for it.

 

[valeman2012]

I do not stream on do video encoding just gaming on a 1080p monitor, I have a fx-8350 and am in dire need to update. Which one would be better if I get the k series I myself will probably not overclock it maybe down the road when performance suffers on new titles. So should I get the k for .3 boost in base frequency and also be safer for the future or go with the 7600

If you have no PLANS to overclock
You can get the Intel i7 7700 since you doing those stuff (which comes with the Stock Cooler (Heatsink & Fan), The K does not
You can get the Intel i5 7600 (but usually people use that for gaming that do not OVERCLOCK) is less costing alongside a (Not Overclockable) motherboard B250 or H270

 

[InvalidError]

If you can wait for a few more months, AMD's R5 series may be worth considering too: you should get performance close to an i7-7700 for cheaper than an i5.

 

[Yummiesttag]

Money is a factor but I want to make this upgrade last as long as possible.
Would it be wise to buy the K chip and a Z mobo for the future?
Im use to the AMD heater I have right now, would overclocking the K chip produce way more heat I wouldn't do and extreme overclock because I have an h80i from 2013 im sure it can hand it

 

[Yummiesttag]

The price of the 7600 vs the 7600k is $10 and on the mobo side $119 for H170 and $139 for Z170 so for roughly $35 I have to option to overclock even if I don't overclock I can. Vs not having the option. So I guess i haven't really looked at it like that till just now so ill probably go with the K and some Z motherboard unless im completely convinced some how to not. But for $35 I don't see how it will hurt.

 

[Ecky]

You get pretty little out of overclocking, usually 5-10%. An i7 7700 + B250 board costs about the same as an i5 7600K + Z270, and the i7 is considerably faster. I consider "K" CPUs to be a poor value, and only worth it if you overclock as a hobby and not as a way to get more value.

 

[Yummiesttag]

If you can wait for a few more months, AMD's R5 series may be worth considering too: you should get performance close to an i7-7700 for cheaper than an i5.

I am impatient I would love to wait but I just don't think I can

 

[chemmajorp53]

If you already have an H80 then it's up to you, you'll probably be able to get a solid 4.6-4.8 GHz out of a 7600k without much effort, it's just whether the extra 10% boost in performance is worth $70-80 in additional cost between the CPU and mobo.

 

[Ecky]

For what it's worth, neither H170 nor Z170 are likely to work out of the box with a 7xxx CPU, they need BIOS updates. You need B250, H270 or Z270. You might choose to go with something like this instead:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128980

 

[Yummiesttag]

You get pretty little out of overclocking, usually 5-10%. An i7 7700 + B250 board costs about the same as an i5 7600K + Z270, and the i7 is considerably faster. I consider "K" CPUs to be a poor value, and only worth it if you overclock as a hobby and not as a way to get more value.

So the i7 7700 is quite a bit faster than the i5 7600k and would be a better buy

 

[Yummiesttag]

For what it's worth, neither H170 nor Z170 are likely to work out of the box with a 7xxx CPU, they need BIOS updates. You need B250, H270 or Z270. You might choose to go with something like this instead:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128980

Oh I did not realize there were a 2xx series

 

[Dugimodo]

You are forgetting the cost of cooling, K series do not come with a heatsink so factor that into your calculations.

I overclock mildly with my 6700K to 4.3 because I can, but honestly there's no real benefit. Previously with a 2500K I forgot to redo my overclock after a BIOS update and ran at stock speeds for 6 months without noticing, that's how much you need it for gaming. I consider overclocking to be something for enthusiasts and people squeezing performance out of a budget system, but it's totally not required for a good gaming experience.

Motherboard chipsets only really matter when it comes to looking at overclocking, I/O, and features if you are not overclocking and not using multiple graphics cards almost any board will do and honestly you will not notice the difference. The Gaming experience on a B250 board with an i5 7600 and something like a 1060 - 1070 will be near enough the same as a Z270, 7700K combo with the same graphics card. For the best all round experience you are better off spending the difference on an SSD than the more expensive parts.

On the other hand I ignore my own advice and buy the more expensive kit because I can afford it and I want it, comes down to budget really.

 

[chemmajorp53]

He just said he already has a cooler man

 

[Yummiesttag]

To get the i7 7700 it totals to $100 extra so around $512 total and im doing some research but if the i7 is marginally better then Ill probably go with It.

Side note later on down the road I plan on buying a 1070 so I would need to make sure there is no bottle neck, with the 1070 I would like to buy a 4k monitor or a higher resolution then 1080p but thats more towards July or august maybe later

 

[Yummiesttag]

You get pretty little out of overclocking, usually 5-10%. An i7 7700 + B250 board costs about the same as an i5 7600K + Z270, and the i7 is considerably faster. I consider "K" CPUs to be a poor value, and only worth it if you overclock as a hobby and not as a way to get more value.

The motherboard for the i7 and i5 have a 8 pin power adapter my PSU on has a 4 pin will it be fin if I get the i7 7700 or will I have to buy one of the adapters that convert the 8 to 4 pin if those even work

 

[Ecky]

4 pin will be fine.

 

[Yummiesttag]

I've come to the conclusion of an i5 7600k, the only thing is I'll be overclocking so will a 4 pin CPU power cable still be ok or would I need to buy the 4 to 8 pin adapter or does it even do anything? Or do I need a new power supply my current is 700watts so I'm good on power


Thank you all for your help

 

[mahanddeem]

With the recent trend in applications and games (especially for 1080p and high fps) i7 is a much wiser choice than i5. And K SKU can be of great benefit down the road if you decide to overclock when you need the extra power. I'd stretch my budget and get 7700K.

 

[Ecky]

Even a regular 7700 will smoke an OC'd 7600K in most high budget games. Just as an example:

Although the 6700 isn't very significantly ahead, look at how the older i7's have aged against their i5 counterparts - the 6 year old i7 2600K delivers better minimum framerates than the i5 6600, while the 6700 provides ~25% higher framerates. You can expect the gap to grow as games become better threaded.

Same story. Even if you already have a cooler, the i5 will be slower.

 

[Yummiesttag]

I have thought about it for a few days and im going to save up the extra money to do it and get the i7 7700k so that way in the future I can overclock it and make it last. I will probably buy all the stuff off Amazon (Prime Member) so I know prices will be a little higher.
But I am stuck with the motherboard not sure if I should create a new thread or not but I like MSI and like the features of the Z270 GAMING PRO but the Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON is $25 more what is different about it. Just thats it has carbon like material on it?

 

[Ecky]

Generally speaking, you don't get much out of more expensive motherboards. Usually the differences come down to a few extra ports on the back, or maybe a proprietary software stack for onboard audio.

For what it's worth, the 7700K really doesn't have much overclocking headroom. You can probably expect 4.8ghz (give or take) with an expensive cooler, which is only about 6-7% higher than stock single-core turbo. This will be effectively invisible, so I wouldn't dump a bunch of money into it. Overclock is more a hobby and a game now than a real way to get significant performance improvements or more value from a CPU. For that reason, I consider the 7700 and a B250 or H270 board to be the current value king.

 

[mahanddeem]

Yummiest why Amazon Prime? Nobody can best Microcenter replacement plan. Heck I'd even drive hours for just that!