i5 8400 + gtx 1050 ti ?

[maorshy24]

I am building a new pc but it is my first time, im also trying to stay on the budget.
so I have this build:

motherboard:
GIGABYTE B360M DS3H

cpu:
intel I5 8400 2.8 Ghz

gpu:
Asus GTX 1050 Ti ROG STRIX OC (I heard that Zotac cards are cheaper but where i live they dont sell any Zotac cards.)

-8 GB Ram
-1 TB HDD
-120 GB SDD

650W PSU

is this okay? if you could give me a few tips id be more than happy.

 

[profoundnoah]

What will you be using the system for, and how urgent is the build? What is your budget? Do you have any Hard Drives lying around (particularly in an old PC)? If it were me, I'd look into something like the i3 8100, or possibly even wait for the new Ryzen budget CPU's to release if it meant being able to upgrade to a 1060. What country do you live in?

 

[maorshy24]

What will you be using the system for, and how urgent is the build? What is your budget? Do you have any Hard Drives lying around (particularly in an old PC)? If it were me, I'd look into something like the i3 8100, or possibly even wait for the new Ryzen budget CPU's to release if it meant being able to upgrade to a 1060. What country do you live in?

I live in Israel, and the pc is for gaming. now im not looking for something extreme to run at Ultra. Mixtures of Medium and High are okay for me, and the budget is around 4000 ILS (1,100+- USD)

 

[photonboy]

PCPARTPICKER is pretty useful to setup configurations.

Without knowing your requirements (games I assume) and exact budget it's hard to be specific.

I would also be wanting to compare that to a similar RYZEN build with an R5-1600 or R5-2600 setup. Keep in mind with Ryzen the DDR4 bandwidth is more important so you want at least 3000MHz CL16 in Dual Channel (two stick multiples). Don't go 2400MHz single stick for example.

But...
GTX1050Ti has 4GB VRAM which is great for budget builds and the GPU is similar to a GTX680/770 so you can expect similar gaming performance. I upgraded from a GTX680 to a GTX1080 and while it helped a lot in some games I was surprised how many games didn't seem that much better... especially with good tweaking on my GTX680 setup.

There's rapidly diminishing quality so in SOME games a GTX1050Ti gets most of the visual fidelity.

 

[photonboy]

What will you be using the system for, and how urgent is the build? What is your budget? Do you have any Hard Drives lying around (particularly in an old PC)? If it were me, I'd look into something like the i3 8100, or possibly even wait for the new Ryzen budget CPU's to release if it meant being able to upgrade to a 1060. What country do you live in?

I live in Israel, and the pc is for gaming. now im not looking for something extreme to run at Ultra. Mixtures of Medium and High are okay for me, and the budget is around 4000 ILS (1,100+- USD)

USA conversion doesn't necessarily translate to local pricing well. Some places it's more than 30% higher than the conversion rate.

Can you try to link a couple PC parts stores so we can make a rough guess? Plus some parts aren't available elsewhere.

Finally, please tell us what the budget includes?
1) do NOT include Windows cost
2) Monitor?
3) PC case and all internals? (CPU, mobo etc)
4) keyboard/mouse?

SOMETIMES you can do okay with a store-bought PC possibly just adding the graphics card and PSU (if needed due to graphics card), and SSD after.

 

[profoundnoah]

I'm not sure how the prices transfer over in Israel, but I would aim for a build of similar configuration to this one. If you need me to adjust prices for Israel's market, let me know. Do note a few things though: AMD is going to be releasing their B450 boards by the end of the month. These will likely sell for a good bit less than the X470 boards, so you can save some money if you wait. Another thing: if you save up another $100, you could easily get a GTX 1070, which is a FAR more powerful card. Not saying it's a necessity, ESPECIALLY if you're playing at 1080p, but definitely a nice-to-have for the future.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($131.19 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($53.83 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($295.70 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $1089.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-21 16:02 EDT-0400

 

[tejayd]

I like your picks. Performance per $ I think those are the way to go. If the new graphic cards are announced in few weeks it may be worth waiting. Idk if its available to you but I see Amazon and Walmart have AMD 2600x for 188$. I personally would pick that for the price. If not I'm sure the 8400 will do fine.

 

[maorshy24]

What will you be using the system for, and how urgent is the build? What is your budget? Do you have any Hard Drives lying around (particularly in an old PC)? If it were me, I'd look into something like the i3 8100, or possibly even wait for the new Ryzen budget CPU's to release if it meant being able to upgrade to a 1060. What country do you live in?

I live in Israel, and the pc is for gaming. now im not looking for something extreme to run at Ultra. Mixtures of Medium and High are okay for me, and the budget is around 4000 ILS (1,100+- USD)

USA conversion doesn't necessarily translate to local pricing well. Some places it's more than 30% higher than the conversion rate.

Can you try to link a couple PC parts stores so we can make a rough guess? Plus some parts aren't available elsewhere.

Finally, please tell us what the budget includes?
1) do NOT include Windows cost
2) Monitor?
3) PC case and all internals? (CPU, mobo etc)
4) keyboard/mouse?

SOMETIMES you can do okay with a store-bought PC possibly just adding the graphics card and PSU (if needed due to graphics card), and SSD after.

i could link some of the parts but theyre in the ILS currency, and i've already got a monitor (ASUS VP228 21.5"), a keyboard (Sharkoon SGK2) and a mouse (Speedlink Decus).

now the whole budget includes the:
motherboard- Gigabyte B360M DS3H
cpu- intel i5 8400 2.8 Ghz (box)
gpu - Asus GTX 1050 ti ROG OC
hdd - WD 1TB
ssd- 120 GB
cpu cooler - Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2
ram - hyperx fury 8 gb
psu - corsair 650W
and the pc case which is a Corsair SPEC-01 Mid Tower
and all of that (excluding the windows) costs 3740 ILS.

 

[tejayd]

I think it's that's a fine value pc. A gtx1060 might do more it justice. The Asus 1050ti is around 200$ USD. There are 1060s on amazon for 240$. And it's a decent performance gain. I feel it matches better with the 8400 also.

 

[photonboy]

I think it's that's a fine value pc. A gtx1060 might do more it justice. The Asus 1050ti is around 200$ USD. There are 1060s on amazon for 240$. And it's a decent performance gain. I feel it matches better with the 8400 also.

1) To be clear, I'd be recommending a 6GB version of the GTX1060 not a 3GB version.

Performs vs 1050Ti is roughly 64% higher on average though I get the impression this would be over his budget. Prices may be a lot higher THERE than Amazon may suggest.

Performance: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1050_Ti_Gaming_X/27.html


2) I'd go Dual Channel still (2x4GB then later get another 2x4GB kit) and use the motherboard manuals recommended slots (then enable "XMP" in the BIOS).

Gamers Nexus compared the i5-8400 with 2x2666 vs 2x3200 and got up to 9% gains. That was with a GTX1080 so for the most part more than 2x2666MHz shouldn't matter much, but... a SINGLE STICK of 2666MHz memory is HALF the bandwidth as 2x2666 therefore there should be some notable losses depending on the game or application with a single stick of 2666.

3) 120GB SSD:
May be enough though don't install any large games to it. You'll find that game saves (in Documents folder) and Windows file creep over time causes the install size to go up and up... most people can probably keep under 80GB though I'd move your "DOWNLOADS" default location for web browsers to the hard drive as well as media files etc.

I started at something like 35GB and ended up at 110GB (sometimes higher).. some things like PAGEFILE size can be changed too (maybe just choose 2GB max and min for the virtual memory).

Just checked folder sizes and discovered much of the space is used by games for various things even though they are installed on a different drive... Mass Effect 3 for example used about 6GB of space for DLC.

Also found some videos made using NVidia (Shadowplay or whatever it is called) that took up a lot of space. Using a great, free tool called "Folder size v3.8.0.0"