i5 8400 gtx 1060 3gb or i5 8600k gtx 1050ti

[ernests2014ru]

I'm going to build my first pc and I was wondering which setup would perform better?

I would use my PC for gaming, video editing etc. I don't care about rendering times so, which build would perform better in games?

And please don't suggest me Ryzen.

 

[superninja12]

option 1

 

[Hellfire13]

Both should perform around the same ballpark. What you gain in CPU power with 8600k, you loose in GPU power with 1050ti.
But, if we talk in terms of longevity, ideally a CPU should last twice the life of a GPU when both begin at the same time. Going by that theory, a stronger CPU now will give you more longevity into the build when you change to a better GPU down the line.
TLDR, 8600k + 1050ti should be a good option.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Well said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.

So if you just want as much FPS now, then option left is good. But option right is good for future upgradability.

 

[junii]

1050ti is better

 

[rafael_1414]

The CPUs have a very similar performance. Especially when it comes to gaming. The GTX 1060 however, is far more powerful. It's a really big difference.

Look at some benchmarks. Always get the 1060. Even when partnered with the i3 8100 it would be a much better solution for gaming.

 

[Hellfire13]

The CPUs have a very similar performance. Especially when it comes to gaming.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3157-intel-i5-8600k-review-overclocking-vs-8700k-8400/page-2

 

[superninja12]

The CPUs have a very similar performance. Especially when it comes to gaming.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3157-intel-i5-8600k-review-overclocking-vs-8700k-8400/page-2

gamernexus is not a reliable website to take information from.

 

[Hellfire13]

The CPUs have a very similar performance. Especially when it comes to gaming.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3157-intel-i5-8600k-review-overclocking-vs-8700k-8400/page-2

gamernexus is not a reliable website to take information from.

source please

 

[rafael_1414]

The CPUs have a very similar performance. Especially when it comes to gaming.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3157-intel-i5-8600k-review-overclocking-vs-8700k-8400/page-2

All Intel CPUs get minimum frame rates of at least 60 FPS for most games or get very close.

That is what is needed for smooth gameplay.

The GTX 1050 Ti on the other hand will struggle to get 60 FPS average at 1920 x 1080 for most triple A games.

Choosing a 1050 Ti is shockingly bad advice.

 

[Hellfire13]

The CPUs have a very similar performance. Especially when it comes to gaming.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3157-intel-i5-8600k-review-overclocking-vs-8700k-8400/page-2

All Intel CPUs get minimum frame rates of at least 60 FPS for most games or get very close.

That is what is needed for smooth gameplay.

The GTX 1050 Ti on the other hand will struggle to get 60 FPS average at 1920 x 1080 for most triple A games.

Choosing a 1050 Ti is shockingly bad advice.

In one of my machines I am running a 1050ti with 6500 and i have no issues getting 60fps on most AAA games. It is not as bad as you think, unless you are going for ultra settings, in which case even a 1060 is not good enough.
There is something called tweaking, which can really work to your advantage.

 

[superninja12]

1)they screw with products https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6t39pa/gamers_nexus_have_removed_the_vega_56_article/

2) they're pretty ignorant overall, Comparing raw data for real scenarios, you can't do that.

3) this is personal but I find their gaming reviews weirdly summarized.

 

[Hellfire13]

I wont discard them over one wayward incident. I have found their reviews quiet insightful in the past and pretty much to the point.
What you are referring to as raw data are basically theoretical benchmarks which are a premise for most reviewers out there.
I have no clue what you meant by your third point.

 

[srimasis]

When your main preference is gaming performance and you don't care about rendering times as you mentioned, i5 8400 + Gtx1060 is much better option than i5 8600k + Gtx1050ti.

I don't understand how some people are recommending Gtx1050ti over Gtx1060. In the second option the cpu i5 8600k will be bottle-necked by the GPU Gtx1050ti. There is no way i5 8600k + Gtx1050ti is going to give more gaming performance than i5 8400 + Gtx1060.

Edit:I have added two benchmark videos below. As you can see i5 8400+Gtx1060 is about 1.5 to 2 times faster than i5 8600k+Gtx1050ti

(i5 8600k + Gtx1050ti)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1J_TYZxRFA

(i5 8400 + Gtx1060)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_xkdjrfsoM

 

[rafael_1414]

Since you have been given some really bad advice, I will expand on my original answer.

The six core i5 8400 has fairly high boost frequencies and will achieve at least 60 frames per second in most games or will get very close. This is great for smooth gameplay.

Ideally it should be partnered with a decent cooler, Intel's stock cooler is not great.

The GTX 1050 Ti is far slower than the GTX 1060 3G and will struggle to hit 60 frames per second in the one percent range in most new triple A games.

With demanding games it will even fail to get 60 FPS average.

Some games will be close to unplayable without setting the quality settings to low.

If you can afford the GTX 1060 it is a far better choice than the GTX 1050 Ti.

Then 1050 cards are very efficient, so they are great for systems with low power PSUs, but provided the PSU isn't a bottleneck, and the higher price isn't an issue always go for one step up.

 

[Hellfire13]

You need to read the post again. It was mentioned at the start that they will perform the same, and there is no bottleneck FYI.
But when you talk in terms of longevity, the 8600k is a more logical option.

I think the OP has enough information by now. There is no point of dragging this useless conversation anymore, and I am done with this.

 

[King_V]

Mostly it depends on what games you play - for the most part, the 1060 3GB will outperform the 1050Ti.

Exceptions, as noted in this review (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-580-review,5020.html), the following games, where the 1050Ti edges ahead of the 1060 3GB

- Doom
- Hitman

- Rise of the Tomb Raider (1060 3GB averages faster than the 1050Ti, but it's minimum frame rates are shockingly much lower than the 1050Ti)

If these are the games you primarily play, then you'd lean to the 1050Ti, otherwise, I'd say go with the 1060.

 

[rafael_1414]

You need to read the post again. It was mentioned at the start that they will perform the same, and there is no bottleneck FYI.
But when you talk in terms of longevity, the 8600k is a more logical option.

I think the OP has enough information by now. There is no point of dragging this useless conversation anymore, and I am done with this.

I think you give very bad advice and that you are confusing the issue.

The difference between the 8400 and the 8600k is not enough to consider the 8400 a future bottleneck. That is just nonsense.

I could see the upgrade the GPU later argument for a Coffee Lake i7 CPU, since it offers 6 more threads plus a higher clock speed, but even then the GTX 1050 Ti would be a poor choice.

 

[Hellfire13]

You need to read the post again. It was mentioned at the start that they will perform the same, and there is no bottleneck FYI.
But when you talk in terms of longevity, the 8600k is a more logical option.

I think the OP has enough information by now. There is no point of dragging this useless conversation anymore, and I am done with this.

I think you give very bad advice and that you are confusing the issue.

The difference between the 8400 and the 8600k is not enough to consider the 8400 a future bottleneck. That is just nonsense.

I could see the upgrade the GPU later argument for a Coffee Lake i7 CPU, since it offers 6 more threads plus a higher clock speed, but even then the GTX 1050 Ti would be a poor choice.

Nope, you guys are confusing the issue. I was crystal clear in my first post and i still stand by my advice. You see, I have been building gaming PC since when you have not even started playing, and clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[bicycle_repair_man]

Both should perform around the same ballpark. What you gain in CPU power with 8600k, you loose in GPU power with 1050ti.
But, if we talk in terms of longevity, ideally a CPU should last twice the life of a GPU when both begin at the same time. Going by that theory, a stronger CPU now will give you more longevity into the build when you change to a better GPU down the line.
TLDR, 8600k + 1050ti should be a good option.

This is spot on.

The GTX 1060 combo will offer better performance now, but how about in five years time when the CPU may begin to bottleneck new GPUs? My 2500K is still going strong today because I've overclocked it. Had I bought a 2500, I'd have needed to upgrade it by now, and that would have meant a new motherboard, new RAM and possibly another copy of Windows. I could buy a mid-high level GPU for less than that.

 

[Hellfire13]

Both should perform around the same ballpark. What you gain in CPU power with 8600k, you loose in GPU power with 1050ti.
But, if we talk in terms of longevity, ideally a CPU should last twice the life of a GPU when both begin at the same time. Going by that theory, a stronger CPU now will give you more longevity into the build when you change to a better GPU down the line.
TLDR, 8600k + 1050ti should be a good option.

This is spot on.

The GTX 1060 combo will offer better performance now, but how about in five years time when the CPU may begin to bottleneck new GPUs? My 2500K is still going strong today because I've overclocked it. Had I bought a 2500, I'd have needed to upgrade it by now, and that would have meant a new motherboard, new RAM and possibly another copy of Windows. I could buy a mid-high level GPU for less than that.

Precisely the point i was trying to make.

 

[volkgren]

Both should perform around the same ballpark. What you gain in CPU power with 8600k, you loose in GPU power with 1050ti.
But, if we talk in terms of longevity, ideally a CPU should last twice the life of a GPU when both begin at the same time. Going by that theory, a stronger CPU now will give you more longevity into the build when you change to a better GPU down the line.
TLDR, 8600k + 1050ti should be a good option.

This is spot on.

The GTX 1060 combo will offer better performance now, but how about in five years time when the CPU may begin to bottleneck new GPUs? My 2500K is still going strong today because I've overclocked it. Had I bought a 2500, I'd have needed to upgrade it by now, and that would have meant a new motherboard, new RAM and possibly another copy of Windows. I could buy a mid-high level GPU for less than that.

Precisely the point i was trying to make.

No, they are not around the same ballpark if you're comparing gaming performance. The i5-8400 and i5-8600K are around the same ballpark, but the 1060 3G vs 1050 Ti are not. There is a significant difference that will not be make up by having a faster CPU.

OP asked which is better in games; the 1060 3GB will smoke the 1050 Ti in gaming. Period.

I'd go with an i5-8400 + GTX 1060 3GB all day before I went with a 1050 Ti and I don't care what CPU you pair with it. CPUs are easy to come by years later and they age well.

You could have bought a used i7-2600K for less than half price several years later when it's time to upgrade. Which can easily be done with the i7-8700K on the Z370 mobo if he gets the i5-8400 and decides to buy a high-end GPU in a few years. The difference in money spent after selling the original CPU and the money spent on buying the used i7 is about the same price as buying a K series i5; except you end up with a better GPU now and an i7 later.

Why give up a good gaming card today for hopes of the future that may never come?

Future proofing has some validity; but that will depend on OP's plans for the future.

 

[Hellfire13]

In cpu intensive games, the 8600k will perform better irrespective of the gpu paired with it and vice versa. So yes, they are in the same ballpark. Period.

 

[volkgren]

In cpu intensive games, the 8600k will perform better irrespective of the gpu paired with it and vice versa. So yes, they are in the same ballpark. Period.

You say that as if the 8600K + 1050 Ti will perform better in CPU intensive games than the i5-8400 + 1060 3G. That is wrong.

 

[volkgren]

If the question was, "Which system is better for the future?" The i5-8600K would be the answer.

But since the question was,

I'm going to build my first pc and I was wondering which setup would perform better?

I would use my PC for gaming, video editing etc. I don't care about rendering times so, which build would perform better in games?

And please don't suggest me Ryzen.

... the answer is i5-8400 + GTX 1060 3GB.