i5 8600k or Ryzen 2600x

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Hello,

I've had my PC for 8 years or maybe a year longer. It really served me well I was satisfied with it till now hehe (can't play newer games anymore), time to upgrade.
When GTA 5 came out I was sure I won't be able to play it but it turns out my PC still has what it takes, barely.

So this is what I'm coming from:
Specs
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400
8GB of RAM DDR3
GIGABYTE GeForce 9600 GT NX96T1GHP

So in the past couple of days I've been looking at these two processors (8600k and 2600x) and can't decide which one will last me longer. I want my new PC to last me like this one did.

I'm not any kind of gamer like you already see.
I mostly play GTA, HITMAN, COD, NBA, FIFA, MAFIA.

Talking about MAFIA 3, I've noticed AMD CPU min. requirement spec are higher then Intels. (8 core 4GHz over Intels 4 core 3.7GHz) why is that?

I'm leaning to AMD's Ryzen 2600x CPU mostly because more threads and hyperthreading, believing in the future, games will need it more and more (so gonna last me longer before another PC upgrade). But that mafia min. requirement, that I've mentioned, got me in doubt.

When I upgrade my PC I don't wanna find myself thinking of upgrading it again anytime soon.

I've never had AMD CPU so I'm little skeptical about it. Intel have been dominating CPU market for a long time but lately there's alot of talk going on about new Ryzen CPUs.

Any kind of help is appreciated.

 
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If you are going with Ryzen you are better off getting the the 1700 or 1700x for the same money. See:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/485472/Ryzen_7_1700_Summit_Ridge_30_GHz_8_Core_AM4_Boxed_Processor_with_Wraith_Spire_Cooler

or

http://www.microcenter.com/product/485473/Ryzen_7_1700X_34_GHz_8_Core_AM4_Boxed_Processor

You can get the 1700 for under $200. Clock up to 4.0Ghz and it will be more than par with a 2600x. See the overclock statistics:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600X/3917vs3956


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This is the website I'm thinking of buying hardware from, its close where I live so no waiting and no shipping costs but I'm going to take a look on other PC hardware stores located in Europe maybe I can find parts cheaper.

This is the cheapest set I could come up with:

Intel set
http://www.agt.si/racunalniska-oprema/maticneplosce/gigabyte-ga-h310m-ds2.html
http://www.agt.si/racunalniska-oprema/procesorji/intel-coffee-lake-i5-8600k-box-BX80684I58600K.html
http://www.agt.si/racunalniska-oprema/zracnahlajenja/cooler-master-hyper-103.html
http://www.agt.si/racunalniska-oprema/spomin/crucial-ct8g4dfs824a.html
http://www.agt.si/racunalniska-oprema/graficnekartice/gigabyte-GV-RX560GAMING-OC-2GD.html

All together 534.64 EUR = 649.45USD

AMD set
http://www.agt.si/racunalniska-oprema/maticneplosce/asus-prime-a320m-k-am4-matx.html
http://www.agt.si/racunalniska-oprema/procesorji/amd-ryzen-5-2600x-box-pinnacle-ridge.html
http://www.agt.si/racunalniska-oprema/spomin/crucial-ct8g4dfs824a.html
http://www.agt.si/racunalniska-oprema/graficnekartice/gigabyte-GV-RX560GAMING-OC-2GD.html

All together 501.56 EUR = 609.26 USD

This is the hardware I've got my eyes on. I don't need a new PC case and PSU. Now I have LC Power 550W PSU. I'm sure it will work with new components.


Like I said I've never had AMD CPU so I'm little skeptical about it because I've seen in Mafia 3, AMD CPU requirements are higher then Intels
 
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Nice build. And don't worry about Mafia 3, it was an un-optimized PC game. However it still runs at 30 FPS on an older FX4300 build at 1080p at medium settings (Video link). And most PC games should run fine on your new build.

Some advices:
1) Don't overclock your cpu for now. It will lengthen its lifespan. Save overclocking for the future when games will be really demanding (3-4 years later).
2) Your Cpu will be more benefited by higher frequency memories. So spend a bit more on a 3000 or 3200mhz Ram.
http://www.agt.si/racunalniska-oprema/spomin/crucial-BLE8G4D30AEEA.html
http://www.agt.si/racunalniska-oprema/spomin/crucial-BLE8G4D32BEEAK.html
3) I will still suggest you to buy a good PSU. A bad PSU or nearing the end of life PSU can fry your components. Why take risks.
http://www.agt.si/racunalniska-oprema/napajalniki/antec-basiq-vp450p-450w.html
4)RX560 is a good graphics card but it will struggle in future games. Since Graphics cards are all overpriced now due to crypto mining, I will suggest you to stick with Rx560 for now and when next generation of Graphics cards comes to the market (most probably next year) then you can buy a Gtx1150ti or RX660 or something equivalent. Right now a Gtx1060 6GB should be enough for future games (5-6 years) but now its very overpriced.

Good luck.
 
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Great thank you for your advice, I see you've started replying my thread as I started editing it. What's your opinion on cheaper motherboards I've mentioned?
 
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Cheaper motherboard will just limit you on overclocking, if that's something that's important to you going forward. If I had to choose, I'd probably go a bit cheaper on the motherboard, and spend a bit more on the highest frequency memory I could afford (and that the cheap motherboard could support).
 
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Hmm I forgot to tell one big problem with the motherboard. The motherboard is good but it will need a bios update to support second generation Ryzen CPUs. Problem is, you will need a first gen Ryzen CPU to update the bios so that it can run second gen Ryzen CPU like R5 2600x. So its a bit messy situation.

There are two solutions, after buying the motherboard you have to request AMD for a AMD Ryzen boot kit. They will send you a first gen cpu as loan so that you can update the bios. Its still a cumbersome process.

Another solution is the one I recommend. Buy this motherboard from an offline Computer shop and ask them to update the bios for you. They should do it for free.

Offline stores may be a bit pricey but in this case its the best option.
 
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If you are going with Ryzen you are better off getting the the 1700 or 1700x for the same money. See:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/485472/Ryzen_7_1700_Summit_Ridge_30_GHz_8_Core_AM4_Boxed_Processor_with_Wraith_Spire_Cooler

or

http://www.microcenter.com/product/485473/Ryzen_7_1700X_34_GHz_8_Core_AM4_Boxed_Processor

You can get the 1700 for under $200. Clock up to 4.0Ghz and it will be more than par with a 2600x. See the overclock statistics:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600X/3917vs3956


 
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Truth be told though, if you top line gaming performance, Ryzen is not the way to go right now. Of course this requires you to go all out on the video card something like a GTX1070 or better so $500 or more for the GPU alone in which case it makes no sense to skimp on the CPU and gimp the GPU. So then you would want a 8700k.

But for realistic budget and really good gaming experience without wrecking your wallet, the 8 core 16 thread Ryzen 7 at less than $200 or eve the $150 Ryzen 5 1600 when paired with a GTX1060 will be super nice. I know because I was happy to have gotten a R5 1600 like really cheap, $100 and paired with my year-old GTX1060 which I also got cheap for $160 and it works out great.

And with Ryzen never spend more money for the "X" option. If you look:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600X/3955vs3956
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X/3957vs3958

Once overclocked the 2600 is basically identical to the 2600x
and similarily 2700 is identical to the 2700x.

Which is to say that the 1700 over clocked is only 8% slower than the 2700x
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X/3917vs3958

But that will easily save you $100 which can go towards that GTX1060.


 
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