[SOLVED] i5 bottlenecks 2070S ?

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Sup everone! Will an i5 9400f bottleneck a 2070 Super? Calculators say yes, that it's a horrible pair. Or should I buy i7 9700 (non k) and 2060S? There can't be bottleneck.
I do only gaming fortnite on 1080p 240hz g-sync lower settings possible.
So what would you pick?
 

King_V

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Sup everone! Will an i5 9400f bottleneck a 2070 Super? Calculators say yes, that it's a horrible pair. Or should I buy i7 9700 (non k) and 2060S? There can't be bottleneck.
I do only gaming fortnite on 1080p 240hz g-sync lower settings possible.
So what would you pick?
Never, EVER use bottleneck calculators. They are complete and utter garbage.

Everything boils down to:
  • monitor resolution, refresh rate, and adaptive-sync tech (if present)
  • what specific resolution you play on
  • which specific games are being played
  • what level of detail you want
  • what frame rate you're aiming for
Some games are much more CPU intensive than GPU intensive, so the CPU might be the so-called "bottleneck" in that case.
Some games are much more GPU intensive than CPU intensive, so the GPU might be the so-called "bottleneck" in that case, even though it's the exact same system.

If your monitor were, say, 1920x1080 and limited to a 60Hz refresh rate, then your monitor would be the "bottleneck".

For CPU intensity - some games need faster clock rates and higher IPC, and may or may not utilize multiple-threads/cores well. Others may rely more on multi-core/multi-thread, etc.


But, anytime you even think of "bottleneck" . . repeat to yourself "All bottleneck calculators are utter garbage!"


EDIT: this page may offer some guidance as well, specific to Fortnite.
 
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If I were you, don't buy the rtx 2070, just waste the money, but it is your money.
Actually I can buy i7 9700k with 2060S Would it be much better?
Seems like you arent fortnite player cuz in high ranks or tournaments when there a lot of players and builds fps frop even on the best pc on the market. So it does make sense to buy even a 2080ti for constant 240 fps
 
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Yes, I don't play that game. If you have the budget for play that game, buy the best best gpu/cpu you can afford, like you said the i7 9700k + rtx2080ti.
I definitely can't. Theres a choice according to my budget: i7 9700k + 2060S (all my money) or i5 9400f + 2070S
 
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I think get the i7 9700k + 2060S ( or the rtx 2070, which is little bit better than the rtx 2060s), because the i7 is better than the i5 for the game.
Yep, think it’s a wise choice. But do I really need an i7 9700k not just i7 9700? K version costs way more expensive - expensive Z chipset mobo, higher ram and a cooler?
Do I need it? If e.g. I will be recording screen 1080p60 do i get 240fps in Fortnite on 1080p 240hz monitor? Is the k version really better in the case?
 
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Never, EVER use bottleneck calculators. They are complete and utter garbage.

Everything boils down to:
  • monitor resolution, refresh rate, and adaptive-sync tech (if present)
  • what specific resolution you play on
  • which specific games are being played
  • what level of detail you want
  • what frame rate you're aiming for
Some games are much more CPU intensive than GPU intensive, so the CPU might be the so-called "bottleneck" in that case.
Some games are much more GPU intensive than CPU intensive, so the GPU might be the so-called "bottleneck" in that case, even though it's the exact same system.

If your monitor were, say, 1920x1080 and limited to a 60Hz refresh rate, then your monitor would be the "bottleneck".

For CPU intensity - some games need faster clock rates and higher IPC, and may or may not utilize multiple-threads/cores well. Others may rely more on multi-core/multi-thread, etc.


But, anytime you even think of "bottleneck" . . repeat to yourself "All bottleneck calculators are utter garbage!"
I guess I remembered it for all life. But how do I know is Fortnite more GPU or CPU more intensive? I’ve heard that its not demanding and you will be fine with 4 cores, so i5 9400f with his 6/6 cores is completely ok. However theres another theory that in tough scenarios (tournament’s endgame when there are 30 player in one small area) CPU does his work and vizualise picture (all these builds) So idk
• 1920x1080 240hz freesync (but i will set g-sync, it allows with latest nvidia drivers)
• game: only fortnite
• all settings on low
• I’d want 240fps. Sometimes will be recording me screen 1080p60fps so hope I get 240fps there or at least ~140, 120
I think i7 9700 2060S fit better in my case. Or I can get an i7 9700k but it’s way more expensive and I will spent everything I have. So idk what to choose and do i need i7 9700k’s 5,0GHz when I can get some 4,3GHz due to Turbo Boost on i7 9700?
Am I right?
I can be easily wrong thats why Im here would be so nice to read some pc beast specialist’s thoughts
Thanks for reading!
 
I would not select the 9400F for gaming, it's 6c/6t design is already strained, as 6 threads are just simply not enough these days...

Go 9700 or 9900K, and best GPU you can afford. (you can go compare 5700XT with 2070S, etc...)
 

King_V

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Honestly I don't think anyone would be able to tell the difference between, say 120 and 144, and even then, 144 to 240. I don't think it's worth the expense of getting a 240Hz monitor.

Further, if you're recording at 60, then why do you want such high frame-rates? I'd say if you could get a solid 60fps without dipping below, you'd be good. I guess for the competitive-player types, maybe 120. Anything beyond that, there's no real point. If you really push for 240, you'll need to turn the quality down, it seems. Still, human eyes and physical reaction time make that speed meaningless.

It's from mid-2018, but there's an article here on Tom's that talks about what you need for Fortnite. Huge numbers of cores/threads don't seem to matter much, according to that article. I don't know if Fortnite has been optimized for more cores since then, but I think that's not likely.
 

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You won't be able to sustain 240fps on Fortnite + recording, even on low settings.
Scroll down to what a 9700k + 2070 Super get on the game in low settings.[Note: this is a benchmark, expect your actual results to be a little worse.]:
https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/gpu/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-super/intel-core-i7-9700k-3-60ghz/low

9900K + 2080 Super, low settings:
https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/gpu/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super/intel-core-i9-9900k-3-60ghz/low


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It's from mid-2018, but there's an article here on Tom's that talks about what you need for Fortnite. Huge numbers of cores/threads don't seem to matter much, according to that article. I don't know if Fortnite has been optimized for more cores since then, but I think that's not likely.
Fortnite doesn't seem to gain anything beyond 6 cores. *8 core cpus above
9600k/Ryzen 3600 + 2080 Super:
https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/gpu/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-super/intel-core-i5-9600k-3-70ghz/low [It's a benchmark, so actual results will likely be a little worse.]
 

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