i5 GTX 1060 bottleneck?

[someguy171717]

I have an i5-4460 and a GTX 1060 (3GB). In Overwatch, for example, my CPU cores are pretty much always at 100%, resulting in some fairly sub-par performance considering it's a 1060. Should an i5 be bottlenecking this graphics card? My friend said that even an i3 should run with a 1060, so what's going on?


Edit: Thank all of you for all your quick replies and help!
As of right now, I won’t be buying anything new, but in the future I’ll defibitely be buying new an i3 8100 and a new motherboard + RAM.
Again, thanks for all your help and suggestions for parts!

 

[Eximo]

Run, yes. Ideal balance between CPU and GPU, not as much.

If you are running a low resolution and/or settings, the CPU will certainly hold you back if you are targeting very high FPS. Doesn't mean anything is wrong (though better cooling can help keep the CPU in its boost profile)

It is impossible to build a perfectly balanced system for all titles. That is when the term bottleneck gets thrown around, but it isn't a bad thing. If you GPU has a little idle time, when more graphically demanding titles come out you will be able to run them.

 

[zyh1987]

there are 8 different generations of i3. i3 is the segment name and only comparable with in the same generation of hardware.
each generations has different clock speeds, architecture and core count/thread counts

the i5 4460 is only marginally faster than a i3 7100
where as the i3 8100 is faster than a i5 7400.

you really need to use the exact model number to compare CPUs. it does looks like your cpu is bottlenecking your 1060, and I don't think there is much you can do without spending some money on a platform upgrade (from intel 4th series to the modern 8th series/ryzen 2000 series)

 

[someguy171717]

there are 8 different generations of i3. i3 is the segment name and only comparable with in the same generation of hardware.
each generations has different clock speeds, architecture and core count/thread counts

the i5 4460 is only marginally faster than a i3 7100
where as the i3 8100 is faster than a i5 7400.

you really need to use the exact model number to compare CPUs. it does looks like your cpu is bottlenecking your 1060, and I don't think there is much you can do without spending some money on a platform upgrade (from intel 4th series to the modern 8th series/ryzen 2000 series)

Ahh, ok, thank you for the explanation. So my budget for upgrades is fairly low right now, so would it be an 'upgrade' to use an i3 8100 (considering performance while gaming and while doing work, browsing, etc), or should I really be aiming for an i5 8500? They can be 100 to 150 pounds more... :/
edit: https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-6-Core-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B079D8FD28/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1540562659&sr=1-2&keywords=ryzen%2B2600&th=1
Is this ok as well? Are there any differences between intel and ryzen?
(Sorry about all the questions, computer noob here)

 

[Eximo]

Oh, dropping in an i7-4790 would do quite a bit for more recent game titles without spending too much. More cache, hyperthreading, and a pretty big boost in clock speed.

You can pick up used business PCs with i7-4790 in them for around $250, then you swap CPUs, and sell the desktop off for $200, minus shipping and out of pocket expenses, you might spend $100, whereas the chip still commands well over that.

Or upgrading to a shiny DDR4 system which means new motherboard, RAM, and a CPU. Possibly OS. Then you run into the annoyance that now your CPU is more than capable and the GPU is the bottleneck.

Only consider these things if you are truly unsatisfied with performance. If not, save your money so that you can do a more impressive upgrade.

 

[zyh1987]

there are 8 different generations of i3. i3 is the segment name and only comparable with in the same generation of hardware.
each generations has different clock speeds, architecture and core count/thread counts

the i5 4460 is only marginally faster than a i3 7100
where as the i3 8100 is faster than a i5 7400.

you really need to use the exact model number to compare CPUs. it does looks like your cpu is bottlenecking your 1060, and I don't think there is much you can do without spending some money on a platform upgrade (from intel 4th series to the modern 8th series/ryzen 2000 series)

Ahh, ok, thank you for the explanation. So my budget for upgrades is fairly low right now, so would it be an 'upgrade' to use an i3 8100 (considering performance while gaming and while doing work, browsing, etc), or should I really be aiming for an i5 8500? They can be 100 to 150 pounds more... :/

as right now,

i3 8100 and i5 8400 are the best value for intel cpu, i3 8100 for more budget friendly build and i5 8400 for more performance.

keep in mind that you need a new motherboard and ddr4 memory (h310 or b360 motherboard with ddr4 speed @ 2666Mhz)

 

[bennie101]

Keep in mind if you go I3 8100 you will need a new motherboard and ddr4 memory to make the upgrade. Now on the other hand a Ryzen 2600 from amd and new board and ddr4 memory would be your better choice...My 2600 BLOWS my older 4690k out of the water and I am very happy with it.

 

[bennie101]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813119140



https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113496





https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232476

 

[someguy171717]

there are 8 different generations of i3. i3 is the segment name and only comparable with in the same generation of hardware.
each generations has different clock speeds, architecture and core count/thread counts

the i5 4460 is only marginally faster than a i3 7100
where as the i3 8100 is faster than a i5 7400.

you really need to use the exact model number to compare CPUs. it does looks like your cpu is bottlenecking your 1060, and I don't think there is much you can do without spending some money on a platform upgrade (from intel 4th series to the modern 8th series/ryzen 2000 series)

Ahh, ok, thank you for the explanation. So my budget for upgrades is fairly low right now, so would it be an 'upgrade' to use an i3 8100 (considering performance while gaming and while doing work, browsing, etc), or should I really be aiming for an i5 8500? They can be 100 to 150 pounds more... :/

as right now,

i3 8100 and i5 8400 are the best value for intel cpu, i3 8100 for more budget friendly build and i5 8400 for more performance.

keep in mind that you need a new motherboard and ddr4 memory (h310 or b360 motherboard with ddr4 speed @ 2666Mhz)

So if I were to buy an i3 8100, I'd need to get a new motherboard and memory, what about a ryzen 2600G CPU?

 

[Eximo]

i5-8400 is the common recommendation, not much difference to pay for the i5-8500. Or Ryzen 5 2600. i5 if you are focused solely on gaming, R5 if you like to do other things that require more processing. There are some pretty good deals on R7 1700 as well right now.

I think you would be slightly disappointed with an upgrade to an i3-8100.

Like I said, don't try upgrading on too little of a budget, you'll end up spending more on piecemeal upgrades. A few months of saving can make a huge difference.

 

[zyh1987]

there are 8 different generations of i3. i3 is the segment name and only comparable with in the same generation of hardware.
each generations has different clock speeds, architecture and core count/thread counts

the i5 4460 is only marginally faster than a i3 7100
where as the i3 8100 is faster than a i5 7400.

you really need to use the exact model number to compare CPUs. it does looks like your cpu is bottlenecking your 1060, and I don't think there is much you can do without spending some money on a platform upgrade (from intel 4th series to the modern 8th series/ryzen 2000 series)

Ahh, ok, thank you for the explanation. So my budget for upgrades is fairly low right now, so would it be an 'upgrade' to use an i3 8100 (considering performance while gaming and while doing work, browsing, etc), or should I really be aiming for an i5 8500? They can be 100 to 150 pounds more... :/
edit: https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-6-Core-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B079D8FD28/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1540562659&sr=1-2&keywords=ryzen%2B2600&th=1
Is this ok as well? Are there any differences between intel and ryzen?
(Sorry about all the questions, computer noob here)

for AMD cpu, since you already have a gtx 1060, there is very little incentives for the G variant of amd cpu (they have a built-in graphics)

for AMD build, you could go for the r5 1600/2600 paired with a b450 motherboard. I don't actually have suggestion for a counter parts for i3 8100, personally if you don't like tuning your pc, I find intel system (especially 8400) to be a lot easier to setup.

I own a i5 6600k and a r5 1600. In games, Iinds ryzen usually give me less fps, however, I like to play game while watching YouTube, ryzen do not suffer fps loss when I'm watching hd content while gaming

 

[someguy171717]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813119140



https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113496





https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232476

Thanks for the links!
Would i need 16 gb? Does it have the biggest impact on performance and would i be getting something drastically worse with 8gb?

 

[someguy171717]

there are 8 different generations of i3. i3 is the segment name and only comparable with in the same generation of hardware.
each generations has different clock speeds, architecture and core count/thread counts

the i5 4460 is only marginally faster than a i3 7100
where as the i3 8100 is faster than a i5 7400.

you really need to use the exact model number to compare CPUs. it does looks like your cpu is bottlenecking your 1060, and I don't think there is much you can do without spending some money on a platform upgrade (from intel 4th series to the modern 8th series/ryzen 2000 series)

Ahh, ok, thank you for the explanation. So my budget for upgrades is fairly low right now, so would it be an 'upgrade' to use an i3 8100 (considering performance while gaming and while doing work, browsing, etc), or should I really be aiming for an i5 8500? They can be 100 to 150 pounds more... :/
edit: https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-6-Core-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B079D8FD28/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1540562659&sr=1-2&keywords=ryzen%2B2600&th=1
Is this ok as well? Are there any differences between intel and ryzen?
(Sorry about all the questions, computer noob here)

for AMD cpu, since you already have a gtx 1060, there is very little incentives for the G variant of amd cpu (they have a built-in graphics)

for AMD build, you could go for the r5 1600/2600 paired with a b450 motherboard. I don't actually have suggestion for a counter parts for i3 8100, personally if you don't like tuning your pc, I find intel system (especially 8400) to be a lot easier to setup.

I own a i5 6600k and a r5 1600. In games, Iinds ryzen usually give me less fps, however, I like to play game while watching YouTube, ryzen do not suffer fps loss when I'm watching hd content while gaming

Thanks for all the help! Like I said, my budget isn't huge, and I thought if there was something under 200 that I could just swap out then I would go for it. I'll likely save up and buy more RAM, an i3 8100 and a new motherboard. One last thing, if I bought an i5 8500, I'd still need a new motherboard and ddr4 ram, right?

 

[Blitz Blitz]

Your cpu is fine. There is minor bottlenecking: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3680077/ultimate-bottlenecking-guide-rev.html
If you wanna better results sold i5 and upgrade to overclockable i5 or i7 cpu. Don't waste money.

 

[zyh1987]

Thanks for all the help! Like I said, my budget isn't huge, and I thought if there was something under 200 that I could just swap out then I would go for it. I'll likely save up and buy more RAM, an i3 8100 and a new motherboard. One last thing, if I bought an i5 8500, I'd still need a new motherboard and ddr4 ram, right?[/quotemsg]

all 8xxx series cpu regardless of i3/i5/i7 would require you to upgrade motherboard and new ram.

 

[bennie101]

there are 8 different generations of i3. i3 is the segment name and only comparable with in the same generation of hardware.
each generations has different clock speeds, architecture and core count/thread counts

the i5 4460 is only marginally faster than a i3 7100
where as the i3 8100 is faster than a i5 7400.

you really need to use the exact model number to compare CPUs. it does looks like your cpu is bottlenecking your 1060, and I don't think there is much you can do without spending some money on a platform upgrade (from intel 4th series to the modern 8th series/ryzen 2000 series)

Ahh, ok, thank you for the explanation. So my budget for upgrades is fairly low right now, so would it be an 'upgrade' to use an i3 8100 (considering performance while gaming and while doing work, browsing, etc), or should I really be aiming for an i5 8500? They can be 100 to 150 pounds more... :/

as right now,

i3 8100 and i5 8400 are the best value for intel cpu, i3 8100 for more budget friendly build and i5 8400 for more performance.

keep in mind that you need a new motherboard and ddr4 memory (h310 or b360 motherboard with ddr4 speed @ 2666Mhz)

So if I were to buy an i3 8100, I'd need to get a new motherboard and memory, what about a ryzen 2600G CPU?

 

[bennie101]

I dont think there is a ryzen 2600g theres a 2600 and 2600x the apu variants are 2200g which is around 100 bucks but your 1060 will have better FSP and there is the 2400g same as above with the 1060. But there is no 2600g.