[SOLVED] i7 10700F vs Ryzen 7 3700X

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I wanted to know which one should I buy with RTX 2060 SUPER. The primary usage is Gaming and the secondary usage is for Architecture programs like AutoCAD, Autodesk Revit, and some Graphic designing programs so what do you recommend. Furthermore, is it real that i7 10700F needs a water cooler ??
The maximum budget is 1,441 USD
Thanks <3
 
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Karadjgne

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AutoCad has historically worked better on Intels. Not sure if it's the higher IPC, the clock speeds, Lcache or the way Intel deals with the instruction sets or any combination of them, just the end result is that AutoCad prefers Intel.

The 3700x is better value, but Intel still holds the lead in high end performance, you just gotta pay the premiums to get it, that includes overbearing cooling, what will cool a 3700x doesn't come close to cooling a 10700k under heavy loads.

Intel will get better overall results. AMD has better performance per $. Up to you to decide which you can sacrifice, initial $ outlay or tomorrow's time savings.

Amd pretty much sticks to power limits. You'll loose a little performance just to maintain that limit under heavy loads. Intel doesn't follow that proscription. Meaning it's not at all hard for a 10700k to top closer to 200w outputs or more. That means needing the biggest aircoolers like the 250w Noctua NH-D15/S and hoping to stay at reasonable temps, or go big liquid like 280mm/360mm AIO's that have 300w+ capacity. A budget 140w CM hyper212 just isn't going to be enough if looking at 5GHz all core turbo settings.
 
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No case or operating system included. Price wise they are close, all I'm trying to show. The psu is a placeholder as they can be hard to find for a good price.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($408.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z490 VISION G ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($62.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($499.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1421.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($62.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($499.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1302.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-27 11:38 EDT-0400
 
Jan 29, 2020
11
1
15
0
No case or operating system included. Price wise they are close, all I'm trying to show. The psu is a placeholder as they can be hard to find for a good price.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($408.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z490 VISION G ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($62.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($499.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1421.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-27 11:37 EDT-0400



PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($62.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($499.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1302.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-27 11:38 EDT-0400
Thanks, I appreciated but I don't have all of these products available in my local market so I was just asking about which processor I should buy
 

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I wanted to know which one should I buy with RTX 2060 SUPER. The primary usage is Gaming and the secondary usage is for Architecture programs like AutoCAD, Autodesk Revit, and some Graphic designing programs so what do you recommend. Furthermore, is it real that i7 10700F needs a water cooler ??
The maximum budget is 1,441 USD
Thanks <3

Very close the 3700x would save some money to put into 32gb of memory or a better card or both.
 

Karadjgne

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AutoCad has historically worked better on Intels. Not sure if it's the higher IPC, the clock speeds, Lcache or the way Intel deals with the instruction sets or any combination of them, just the end result is that AutoCad prefers Intel.

The 3700x is better value, but Intel still holds the lead in high end performance, you just gotta pay the premiums to get it, that includes overbearing cooling, what will cool a 3700x doesn't come close to cooling a 10700k under heavy loads.

Intel will get better overall results. AMD has better performance per $. Up to you to decide which you can sacrifice, initial $ outlay or tomorrow's time savings.

Amd pretty much sticks to power limits. You'll loose a little performance just to maintain that limit under heavy loads. Intel doesn't follow that proscription. Meaning it's not at all hard for a 10700k to top closer to 200w outputs or more. That means needing the biggest aircoolers like the 250w Noctua NH-D15/S and hoping to stay at reasonable temps, or go big liquid like 280mm/360mm AIO's that have 300w+ capacity. A budget 140w CM hyper212 just isn't going to be enough if looking at 5GHz all core turbo settings.
 
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In general, the intel processors do better on gaming.
But, by not so much as to make a real difference.
I7-10700F will do just fine with a good air cooler.
A top air cooler like the noctua NH-D15s performs on a par with liquid coolers with a 240 radiator.
Either one should be in a well ventilated case.

A balanced gamer will budget about 2x the cost of the processor for the graphics card.
By that metric, I think you would do better with a i5-10600K and a stronger graphics card,
Here is a review:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i5-10600k-cpu-review
 

Karadjgne

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On Corsair H115i 280mm AIO
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-10700k-cpu-review/2
5.1GHz all core, average peaks above 250w, temps averaging peaks @ 85°C. Since liquids are vastly slower to respond to peak spikes, average overall would be closer to @ 73°C @ 210w output. With a far faster aircooler, expect average overall temps to be slightly higher.

The 10700k is a beast, it's a cheaper and slightly better performing i9-9900k. Adequate cooling is a priority consideration.
 
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I have a 10700K and it is a great gaming and productivity CPU and though it costs more than the 3700X you get stellar gaming performance and as good productivity performance and it over clocks extremely well...mine to 5.1GHz at 1.295v. Cooling is better and more than manageable with decent air cooling or a AIO.

Also thankfully 10th Gen Intel has an upgrade path to Rocket Lake S...

The 3700X and the 3800X are also exceptional CPU's and they are right up there on the productivity side and when you take price into consideration it is more than a win on the productivity side but gaming Intel still...Just comes down to your budget as you cannot really go wrong on either 10700K or 3700X...
 
If gaming is +70% of the PC usage go intel, and as writen above the Cpore i7 10700/F/K is a beast for gaming and most productivity software. But yeah you will want to spend on a very good cooling solution.

Now as stayed also above, the Core i5 10600K can also achieve the same level of gaming as the 10700, it will be cheaper and easier to cool, but some of the productivity work will suffer a bit (less cores/threads, less L3 cache). Then again if gaming is the main use, a fast 6 cores/12 threads CPU will still work fine for ACAD and any Graphic Designing software (my uncle is an architect and I have insisted him to upgrade his PC but he refused, he draw house, buildings and custom made tv and books forniture in ACAD, hes use the 3D modeling and all that with a Core i3 (2 cors / 4 threads), 2x8 GB of RAM and a cheap nvidia GPU-can't recall the model now-, at tleast I managed to make him use an SSD which has make load times a lot greater and he finally realized that was a worth upgrade lol, is not a flawless experience but its good enough for him).

As for the Ryzen 7 3700X is a well all-round CPU, which can be installed on many diferent price and features motherboards (Budget yet good B450, Budget B550 which will keep the PCI-E 4, and X570). The money you save here can be put on a better GPU or more and faster RAM. It all depends on your use scenario. And theres the next Ryzen 4xxx coming which should work without hiccups on all B550 and X570 mobos, and most likely on many B450.
 
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