[SOLVED] i7 1165G7 or i7 11370H

[Howardohyea]

My old laptop is starting to show it’s age and after looking at some available options on the internet I think it’s down to two laptops.

One uses the 1165G7, with 16 gigs of LPDDR4X RAM clocked at 4266, and the other uses 16 gigs of regular 3200 memory. They are about 700 bucks and 860 bucks respectively accounted for currency.

All I do is regular office tasks, nothing intensive. Couple of tabs in the web browser, word documents, plus Discord and Steam running in the background, and the occasional gaming, but nothing extremely heavy.

I know that the LP memory with it’s higher clock will greatly help iGPU performance, but the other have a higher power limit. I’m not sure if the higher power limit applies to the iGPU as well, and how will both of these perform in real life. (the one with the H series CPU only have 256 gigs of storage space, but I’m planning on switching drives anyways for both of these laptops)

 

[uWebb429]

The Intel package power limit includes both the CPU cores and the Intel GPU.

On paper, the specs of these two are quite similar.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...cessor-12m-cache-up-to-4-80-ghz-with-ipu.html

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...165g7-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-70-ghz.html

Unfortunately, the specs for mobile devices have become meaningless. Manufacturers have created a wide range of throttling schemes so either of these CPUs and GPUs might perform far differently when installed in two different devices. The only way to get to the bottom of this is with some thorough testing. I have seen some CPUs with 45W TDP ratings that can be throttled by the manufacturer down to as little as 5W at times. Performance when this happens is obviously terrible.

All you can do is roll the dice and hope that you get a well engineered device. The specs will not tell you this. Only hands on testing will. For light duty stuff, either will probably be fine.

 

[Howardohyea]

yeah I also heard that the "configurable TDP" is becoming a nuisance when choosing a laptop, I'll have to ask both sellers directly to get an more detailed understanding.

Also why would the CPU throttle down to 5 watts? Is that because of thermal limits or simply to conserve battery power?

 

[uWebb429]

why would the CPU throttle down to 5 watts?

Ask Dell. Mostly poor design. Here is a forum post about a CPU with a 45W TDP rating that Dell is limiting to 10W.

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1367368-cpu-only-drawing-10-wats-under-load/

The evidence is clear. Why this happens, no one knows. In the past, Dell has not been willing to explain why this is happening. The entire industry is full of issues, some worse than others. Best to get a money back guarantee so if you are not 100% satisfied, you can get a full refund with no questions asked. Some companies have been known to drag their feet and promise updates that will fix everything. Be careful. This can be a delay tactic so you cannot return your new laptop.

 

[Howardohyea]

Hm I specifically avoided dell laptops lol, plus their pricing isn't as good as the ones I'm looking at. But thanks for the advice, I'll keep that in mind

 

[Howardohyea]

I did some research on the 1165G7 and the 11370H, turns out the H CPU does get a higher iGPU clock, by only 5 megaherts. That's underwhelming. And according to notebookcheck the 1165G7 and the 11370H is roughly on par, with the 1165G7 slightly lower, but not by much.