i7 2600k vs i7 3770k vs i5 4690k

[skullun]

someone tell me which option is the best please for "gaming" i don't do much other than gaming.

option 1 : z77 + i7 2600k
Option 2 : z77 + i7 3770k + 40 Usd
option 3 : z87 + i5 4690k + 50 usd

it's not the price difference that matters for me, i just want the best for gaming performance.
I'm going to OC whatever i'll get
someone told me the i7 2600k is a beast after oc so please tell me and thnks in advance

 

[Dunlop0078]

The 3770k or 2600k would be the best options for gaming. They perform very similarly at the same clock speed, both are good overclockers however the 2600k tends to overclock a bit higher on average. I would probably save some money and go for the 2600k.

 

[Hellfire13]

You can discard option 3 right away.
Both option 1 & 2 are good, however option 2 is should be better as it is ahead in terms of gen. and clock. OC depends on the board, your skill and the chip lottery. I would go with option 2 among the three choices.

 

[IInuyasha74]

Yea option 2 is the better choice. The i7-3770K was made to repalce the i7-2600K. It uses less power, runs cooler, and performs better on average. Not by a wide margin, but still better. It's true the i7-2600K does tend to overclock a little better, but the higher clocks it attains will probably just make it match the i7-3770K, while still consuming more power and running hotter. So no reason to go for it.

 

[skullun]

thanks for your answers guys, i was thinking about the i5 because i actually play CPU intensive games, that's why i thought about it... knowing this will you advice me the 3770k anyways ?

 

[Hellfire13]

The 4 extra threads on the i7s' make them much stronger chips for CPU intensive games. That i5 is slightly ahead in terms of gen. IPC core clock gap but that gain is immensely negated by the lack of the logical cores.
i7 is your stronger CPU for gaming.

 

[Dunlop0078]

From what I remember the 3770k ran hotter, so did all ivy bridge CPU's compared to sandy bridge. That's primarily why it overclocked better. I don't think the 3770k is worth 40 dollars more to someone who plans to overclock.

https://techreport.com/news/22859/why-is-ivy-bridge-so-hot-and-bothered

 

[IInuyasha74]

The i7-3770K is a quad-core processor with Hyper-Threading. The i5-4690K is a quad-core processor without Hyper-Threading.

Hyper-Threading allows each core to complete more work, giving it a performance boost especially in heavily threaded tasks. This usually shows up as about a 30% performance increase. It doesn't result in more performance in all tasks, and if you are only using one or two cores, you would see the i7 and the i5 perform similar, but when heavily multi-tasking or running software that can use the extra threads, the i7 will be significantly faster.

 

[Dunlop0078]

thanks for your answers guys, i was thinking about the i5 because i actually play CPU intensive games, that's why i thought about it... knowing this will you advice me the 3770k anyways ?

Well yeah, the only advantage the 4690k has is slightly better single core performance. However the extra 4 threads on the i7's will make up for that in pretty much any modern CPU intensive game

 

[IInuyasha74]

From what I remember the 3770k ran hotter, so did all ivy bridge CPU's compared to sandy bridge. That's primarily why it overclocked better. I don't think the 3770k is worth 40 dollars more to someone who plans to overclock.

https://techreport.com/news/22859/why-is-ivy-bridge-so-hot-and-bothered

Out of the box the 3770K ran cooler, but when you start increasing voltage the heat builds at a much faster rate than Sandy, because the transistors are packed closer together. It also doesn't help this is when Intel made the switch from soldering the IHS to using TIM. So after you increase voltage a bit, this situation reverses itself and Ivy will end up running hotter.

Generally overclocking both will have these results:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-benchmark-core-i7-3770k,3181-9.html

The i7-2600K ends up 200-300MHz higher clocked, but runs slightly slower than the i7-3770K due to the 3770K's architectural improvements. There's also a notable decrease in power consumption, which is also nice.

You also should consider that i7-3770K has PCI-E 3.0 lanes, the i7-2600K uses PCI-E 2.0 lanes. That will be important if he couples it with the likes of a GTX 1070/1080.

 

[Hellfire13]

Switching to TIM actually made the delidding process much easier and it took off like anything since then with the enthusiasts.
But the PCIe3 vs PCIe2 is a good point made above.

 

[TJ Hooker]

Switching to TIM actually made the delidding process much easier and it took off like anything since then with the enthusiasts.

I thought using solder as TIM over paste negated the benefit from delidding in the first place?

 

[Hellfire13]

I was talking about the process, not the benefit or lack of it.
From what i have seen, detaching the IHS when it used to be soldered to the die, used to be a very tedious process. When Intel replaced it with TIM based assembly, the disintegration process became much easier.

 

[IInuyasha74]

Switching to TIM actually made the delidding process much easier and it took off like anything since then with the enthusiasts.
But the PCIe3 vs PCIe2 is a good point made above.

You can't dellid CPUs that have a soldered IHS. Not without destroying them at least. But there isn't any point to. That's the reason the whole delidding thing became popular is to remove the TIM Intel used and replace it with liquid metal, to get as close as possible to the thermal performance of the solder. It would save everyone a lot of time and effort if they just went back to soldering them.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

The i7-3770K is a quad-core processor with Hyper-Threading. The i5-4690K is a quad-core processor with Hyper-Threading.

Hyper-Threading allows each core to complete more work, giving it a performance boost especially in heavily threaded tasks. This usually shows up as about a 30% performance increase. It doesn't result in more performance in all tasks, and if you are only using one or two cores, you would see the i7 and the i5 perform similar, but when heavily multi-tasking or running software that can use the extra threads, the i7 will be significantly faster.

The i5 doesn't have Hyperthreading.

The 2600K is a better choice for overclocking. Sandy would almost always hit 5Ghz with a good board/good cooling and the tiny ~5% IPC gains with Ivy are almost insignificant. Sandy also used solder while Ivy was when Intel switched to TIM making Ivy HOT in comparison.

 

[IInuyasha74]

Ah right, I meant without. Type-o, good catch there Andy.

There is room to debate the merits of both over each other, so really, if you want to save the extra $40, it's not the end of the world. But I think the 3770K is worth the extra. The only certainty is that you shouldn't go with the i5.

 

[Hellfire13]

True. I was recently watching a video on how der8auer came up with the die mate tool concept and it all started from somewhere around there.