i7 4790K better for gaming than i5 6600K?

[SibCon]

Hi all. Can you guys provide some comments on my "issue"? Although I don't really know if this qualifies as an issue, possibly I was under wrong impression. Anyway...

Overview: recently I built second computer (specs below). After reading numerous articles that i7 is no better for gaming than i5 I went with i5 6600K. On my old rig i7 4790K I was playing Just Cause 3 on 1080p with all settings on very high, and it was awesome - no lags, 60 fps constantly with no drops ever - smooooooooth. Now, the new rig i5 6600K has occasional hick ups, frame rates occasionally drop and at times they are around 50-58 fps, even after reducing settings from "very high" to "high".

Something I am doing wrong or missing? Some changes I should make to the configuration?

Specs:
First (old) system
CPU: i7-4790k
MB: ASUS Sabertooth Mark II
GPU: ASUS GTX 970
RAM: 8GB DDR3
Monitor is set to: 1080p (native), game set to 1080p - 5ms

Second (new) system
CPU: i5-6600k
MB: Gigabyte Gaming 7
GPU: ASUS GTX 970
RAM: 16GB DDR4
Monitor: 1440p (native), game set to 1080p - 5ms. If I set the game (Just Cause 3) to 1440p the frames drop to 30fps.

I was under the impression that the new Intel generation i5 with new mobo and faster and bigger RAM will blow older i7 out of the water for gaming. Was I wrong? Or I did possibly something wrong during setup?

Moreover, on my first system, I would let NVidia Experience make recommended changes and all games were working flawlessly, and now if I go with "recommended" settings for Just Cause 3 the game stutter.

Thank you for any input!

 

[Dunlop0078]

Well going from a i7 4790k to an i5 6600k is a pretty bad upgrade, certainly not worth the money. Yes the i7 will perform better in some games and the i5 will perform better in others. In multi-threaded games I would expect the i7 to do better, in single threaded or poorly multi-threaded games I would expect the i5 to do better. Also ddr4 and ddr3 ram are about the same in terms of performance when at a similar speed, most games dont really make use of fast ram.

 

[pm4]

i7-4790k should perform better in both single and multithreaded applications.

Yes i5 is newer, but difference is only about 1 year and i7 got higher base clock by 500MHz + more threads.
Also differences between last few i5/i7 cpu generations aren't really that big.

For reference on performance check
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Where i7-4790k has single thread score 2530 and average score 11216
and i5-6600k has single score 2123 and average score 7820.

 

[rgd1101]

i7 4790k 4.0 Ghz
i5 6600k 3.5 Ghz
Even without counting the HT, the i5 is slower.

 

[Dunlop0078]

i7-4790k should perform better in both single and multithreaded applications.

Yes i5 is newer, but difference is only about 1 year and i7 got higher base clock by 500MHz + more threads.
Also differences between last few i5/i7 cpu generations aren't really that big.

For reference on performance check
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Where i7-4790k has single thread score 2530 and average score 11216
and i5-6600k has single score 2123 and average score 7820.

Yeah I guess at stock. Only because the 4790k has a higher base clock and boost clock by 500mhz, at the same clock speed the i5 skylake should have slightly better single core performance,

 

[guanyu210379]

Any upgrade from i5/i7 Haswell to any i5/i7 Skylake does not worth the money.
Skylake, if you try to compare i5 to i5 or i7 to i7, is only slightly faster than Haswell and you will not notice the difference in real life.
Moreover, moving from i7 4790k to i5 6600k is more of a downgrade than upgrade.


If you want to get better fps (in general), either get a second GTX970 or ditch your GTX970 and buy a GTX980Ti.
Hickups or low fps in Just Cause 3? I dunno..I don't have that game.

 

[SibCon]

Sounds like i5 was not the best choice. I should have done my research better. The numerous comparisons between i5 and i7 for gaming might have been written before games like Just Cause 3 came, and having i7 over i5 for gaming was a moo point before, until now.

However, sounds like this "problem" is relatively easy to fix. If I sell i5 6600K and upgrade my new system with i7 6700K, that should take care of the "issue", right?

Or, may be I should just keep using my "old" rig for gaming and use the "new" one for work.

 

[Dunlop0078]

Sounds like i5 was not the best choice. I should have done my research better. The numerous comparisons between i5 and i7 for gaming might have been written before games like Just Cause 3 came, and having i7 over i5 for gaming was a moo point before, until now.

However, sounds like this "problem" is relatively easy to fix. If I sell i5 6600K and upgrade my new system with i7 6700K, that should take care of the "issue", right?

Or, may be I should just keep using my "old" rig for gaming and use the "new" one for work.

I mean maybe if you have deep pockets. I would never even consider spending money to upgrade an i5 6600k to an i7 6700k for gaming. But I also would have never considered "upgrading" from an i7 4790k to an i5 6600k. If i were you I would return your 6600k, skylake mobo, and ddr4 ram. And maybe buy a better gpu for your 4790k system with that money.

 

[SibCon]

Sounds like i5 was not the best choice. I should have done my research better. The numerous comparisons between i5 and i7 for gaming might have been written before games like Just Cause 3 came, and having i7 over i5 for gaming was a moo point before, until now.

However, sounds like this "problem" is relatively easy to fix. If I sell i5 6600K and upgrade my new system with i7 6700K, that should take care of the "issue", right?

Or, may be I should just keep using my "old" rig for gaming and use the "new" one for work.

I mean maybe if you have deep pockets. I would never even consider spending money to upgrade an i5 6600k to an i7 6700k for gaming. But I also would have never considered "upgrading" from an i7 4790k to an i5 6600k. If i were you I would return your 6600k, skylake mobo, and ddr4 ram. And maybe buy a better gpu for your 4790k system with that money.

Sorry for the confusion... The new system is not to replace the old one. I still have and keeping both (need two systems). I just wasn't sure if there was something simple I was missing, being under the impression that the new one would perform better in gaming.

So... would it make more sense to keep using "old" one for gaming then, and use "new" one for work, and other non-gaming tasks?

Also, you think NVidia 970 is not good anymore?

Thank you very much!

 

[Dunlop0078]

The 970 is a great gpu but i thought you were just upgrading your old system for gaming, in that case your money would have been better spent on a new gpu especially if you want to game at 1440p. As for which one you should use for gaming i dont know hard to say, without an overclock on the i5 6600k I would probably stick with the 4790k system. The 4790k will perform better in almost very game if you keep both cpu's at stock clocks.

 

[SibCon]

The 970 is a great gpu but i thought you were just upgrading your old system for gaming, in that case your money would have been better spent on a new gpu especially if you want to game at 1440p. As for which one you should use for gaming i dont know hard to say, without an overclock on the i5 6600k I would probably stick with the 4790k system. The 4790k will perform better in almost very game if you keep both cpu's at stock clocks.

Thank you! In that case, it turns out that I didn't build a new system for gaming. Great. I'll just use the old one for that, and new one for everything else.