i7-4790k Build or i7-5820k Build?

[DeputyJake]

Hey guys,

I've been interested in the i7-4790k for awhile and made a build for it. but after realizing the i7-5820k was only $20 more I planned on just getting that. However, I then realized I would have to change the motherboard and ram on the i7-4790k build I had before because they aren't compatible with the i7-5820k, so the price got bumped up a little more than I wanted. Anyways, what I am asking is: Is it worth it to go ahead and spend the extra money on the i7-5820k build listed below, or should I stick with the i7-4790k?

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Here are the builds:
i7-4790k Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DeputyJake/saved/nqNTwP
i7-5820k Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XkFRbv

Thanks,
DeputyJake

UPDATE: I will mostly be gaming with this computer, but do plan on doing some video editing.

 

[TNT27]

for gaming it aint worth it, however if you go the money might as well.

 

[SeriousRising]

I would go down to a 4770k get 16GB RAM and a better case if your just doing gaming mostly even just an i5 4690k

 

[Joseph DeGarmo]

Just stick with the 4790k and swap the PSU with a better model, such as an XFX or SeaSonic 550w or greater. 750w is a bit overkill for a single GTX 970 and the Corsair CX brand is not very reliable.

 

[TNT27]

I wouldnt do unlocked i5 really, id look into a locked Xeon 1231, same pricing as unlocked i5, and is pretty much a locked i7 in performance gaming.

 

[BadBoyGreek]

Hey guys,

I've been interested in the i7-4790k for awhile and made a build for it. but after realizing the i7-5820k was only $20 more I planned on just getting that. However, I then realized I would have to change the motherboard and ram on the i7-4790k build I had before because they aren't compatible with the i7-5820k, so the price got bumped up a little more than I wanted. Anyways, what I am asking is: Is it worth it to go ahead and spend the extra money on the i7-5820k build listed below, or should I stick with the i7-4790k?

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Here are the builds:
i7-4790k Build: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DeputyJake/saved/nqNTwP
i7-5820k Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XkFRbv

Thanks,
DeputyJake

UPDATE: I will mostly be gaming with this computer, but do plan on doing some video editing.

For the best all-around performance and future proofing, the six cores of the 5820 would be the way to go, but this depends on just how much you plan to use it as a workstation. If you're going to be doing 90% gaming and maybe "some" video editing / encoding, then the price premium over the 4790k may not be worth it. DDR4 RAM is still ridiculously expensive.

If you're going to make equal use of it as a workstation and a gaming machine, and you can afford it, by all means, go for the 5820 platform. More and more applications are taking advantage of multi-threading and the more cores, the better overall. But if you're going primarily for gaming, stay with the 4790k.

 

[Bossyfins]

Getting a 5820k does not future proof; no such thing as future proofing because you don't know what coders will do

 

[TNT27]

Getting a 5820k does not future proof; no such thing as future proofing because you don't know what coders will do

But do you agree a 5820k will be better prepared for the test of time?

 

[BadBoyGreek]

Getting a 5820k does not future proof; no such thing as future proofing because you don't know what coders will do

Between 4 and 6 cores, there is absolutely a difference in terms of future proofing. Since there are clock speed limitations on CPUs, multi-threading is the way to get increased performance and more and more companies are moving towards optimizing their software to take advantage of this.

 

[TNT27]

Why yes, future proofing here is that not only does it have 6 cores HT, but it sports DDR4! which in time will become like a trasnition to ddr3 from ddr2.

 

[Bossyfins]

Getting a 5820k does not future proof; no such thing as future proofing because you don't know what coders will do

But do you agree a 5820k will be better prepared for the test of time?

Yes, BUT, using the word future proofing is like saying We lost but we were close when you lost 0 - 6..

Will it be better later, maybe, extended life, maybe. But future proofing really means nothing unless you put it into context

 

[Bossyfins]

Why yes, future proofing here is that not only does it have 6 cores HT, but it sports DDR4! which in time will become like a trasnition to ddr3 from ddr2.

But ddr3 will be very relevant for a long time.. There is little need to move to ddr4/x99 because current games and other games just don't need those resources

 

[BadBoyGreek]

Why yes, future proofing here is that not only does it have 6 cores HT, but it sports DDR4! which in time will become like a trasnition to ddr3 from ddr2.

But ddr3 will be very relevant for a long time.. There is little need to move to ddr4/x99 because current games and other games just don't need those resources

In the case of the OP, we weren't suggesting that he "needs" those extra 2 cores, or that he "needs" DDR4. It really comes down to what the machine will be purposed for. If it's going to be predominantly for gaming, then no need to go to the 5820. However, given that there was talk of video editing etc., depending how much will be done, the extra cores could be worth the investment. More cores and faster DDR4 RAM would be much better suited to those tasks, completing them in less time than 4 cores would.

For context, look at things from a business perspective with servers - more cores would be future proofing because you could add more virtual servers within the existing platform, increase the core count on existing boxes if needed and so on. The same holds true in the workstation space - more available resources means the flexibility to do more within the existing footprint. It's just a question of whether the extra investment will be fully utilized to make it worthwhile. But higher core / thread counts are definitely the future; chip makers wouldn't be investing so heavily in producing chips with higher core counts otherwise.

 

[DeputyJake]

Thanks for all the help guys. So, basically what you're all saying is that it depends on what I'm going to be doing with the computer. As of now, I won't be doing a lot of editing, but would definitely like to have the capability of doing it. So, on that note it seems that the i7-4790k would be better to go with. The only thing is, I don't want to look back in 2 years wishing that I would have spent the extra $90. Because if I have to upgrade, it's going to cost a lot more due to having to upgrade the CPU, Motherboard and RAM.

 

[TNT27]

I personally if I had that extra 90$ would go for the x99 platform.

 

[0x1eef]

> Talks about future
> No SSD in build

There's a way to spend that $90 wisely. It's called "Crucial MX100 256GB"

 

[BadBoyGreek]

Thanks for all the help guys. So, basically what you're all saying is that it depends on what I'm going to be doing with the computer. As of now, I won't be doing a lot of editing, but would definitely like to have the capability of doing it. So, on that note it seems that the i7-4790k would be better to go with. The only thing is, I don't want to look back in 2 years wishing that I would have spent the extra $90. Because if I have to upgrade, it's going to cost a lot more due to having to upgrade the CPU, Motherboard and RAM.

It really comes down to what you're comfortable spending Jake. If you're okay spending the extra money now and you don't want to have regrets later, the 5820 / X99 platform will be the way to go, especially if you anticipate you'll be doing increasingly thread dependent tasks like editing and it will push back your need to upgrade again down the road. If you're constrained by budget and would prefer to save the extra money and don't think you'll be doing a lot of editing, stay within the 4790k / Z97 platform.

Whichever way you go, definitely get an SSD for your boot drive as suggested by 0x1eef - I overlooked the fact that it wasn't on your build plan

 

[Bossyfins]

> Talks about future
> No SSD in build

There's a way to spend that $90 wisely. It's called "Crucial MX100 256GB"

You sir, are amazing. +1 to that.

Also, 4790k beats the 5820k in gaming. That will be like it for a while until devs decide to use more cores. Which is not needed since most games use 3 cores max..

 

[mrhippo900]

5820k litterally requires you to buy DDR4 Ram which is very pricey, especially the mobo. You are better off with 4790k.
And unless you are rendering you don't need 6 cores.

 

[DeputyJake]

> Talks about future
> No SSD in build

There's a way to spend that $90 wisely. It's called "Crucial MX100 256GB"

Yeah, I guess I should get a SSD.. Which one's better, the Samsung 840 Evo 250gb vs Crucial MX100 256gb?

Again, thank you guys for all your help!

 

[BadBoyGreek]

> Talks about future
> No SSD in build

There's a way to spend that $90 wisely. It's called "Crucial MX100 256GB"

Yeah, I guess I should get a SSD.. Which one's better, the Samsung 840 Evo 250gb vs Crucial MX100 256gb?

Again, thank you guys for all your help!

The Samsung currently uses the fastest controller on the market, but in most real world scenarios, you would be hard pressed to notice a significant difference in performance between the two. Either would give you blazing fast performance.

 

[0x1eef]

> Talks about future
> No SSD in build

There's a way to spend that $90 wisely. It's called "Crucial MX100 256GB"

Yeah, I guess I should get a SSD.. Which one's better, the Samsung 840 Evo 250gb vs Crucial MX100 256gb?

Again, thank you guys for all your help!

From these two I'd choose MX100.
If you can afford 850 Evo, buy it instead.

 

[Bossyfins]

840 is the older version of the ssd, and the 850 evo is the better one. If you can't buy that, go for mx100

 

[DeputyJake]

Cool, thanks!

Updated Builds:

i7-4790k - http://pcpartpicker.com/user/DeputyJake/saved/pYbZxr

i7-5820k -http://pcpartpicker.com/user/DeputyJake/saved/9dvCmG

So the difference is now about $80.

 

[0x1eef]

Both are nice rigs and 750W PSU allows you to SLI 970s in the future but Corsair isn't the best brand. I'd suggest this one instead:

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Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
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