i7 5930k vs i7 7700k. Help?

[Shnuggles]

I can't decide if I want to keep my i7 5930k CPU on my next build (which is next month) or if I want to "upgrade" to the i7 7700k CPU with the new ASUS Maximus IX Formula Motherboard.

If I stay the same to the 5930k, I'll be upgrading my ASUS Rampage V Extreme 9 Motherboard to the ASUS Rampage V Edition 10.

I'm very torn, what would be the main differences in the two? Is it worth switching to the 7700k from the 5930k? If not, please explain why, I don't want a yes or no answer with no explanation as to why, I like to be well informed on things.

Also, if I stay with the 5930k I'll be taking it out of my current motherboard (ASUS Rampage V Extreme 9) will this be an issue? I've never swapped CPU's from one motherboard to another. Or will I have to buy an all new 5930k?

(The CPU Cooler I'm using right now is the Corsair H100i, and will be switching to the NZXT Kraken x62 on the new build)

 

[Darthutos]

well are you gaming or professionally editing?
gaming or working what is your priority? If gaming is more important then 7700k if work is more important stay with 5930k.
this is because 7700k have stronger single thread performance which is games take advantage of. For works you do not want single thread performance but more threads which is where 5930k shine.

 

[Shnuggles]

well are you gaming or professionally editing?
gaming or working what is your priority? If gaming is more important then 7700k if work is more important stay with 5930k.
this is because 7700k have stronger single thread performance which is games take advantage of. For works you do not want single thread performance but more threads which is where 5930k shine.

Honestly I do both on it. More so gaming though.

 

[Darthutos]

then if you got the upgrade itch and can afford it go for 7700k. although you also need to be comfortable with windows 10. that might be worth consideration.
think it through, 7700k and a new mobo isn't cheap.

 

[Shnuggles]

Money isn't an issue, and I've been running Windows 10 since launch and love it.
Though it's a very tough issue though, I've seen some videos where people get more FPS in games with the i7 5930k, and some videos where people get more FPS with the 7700k.

 

[doubletake]

Is there any reason in particular for why you want to do a rebuild? For example, why are you even suggesting moving to a new motherboard; are there new features on the RVE10 that you really want?

Regardless of your reasoning though, I'd say that it's not worth building anything new just now. Intel's Skylake-X is coming out in the next few months, and that would be a more worthwhile upgrade as it'll get you Skylake/Kaby Lake IPC + all the new specs you've seen featured on z170/z270 that you're probably looking for, without having to downgrade to a lower core count CPU, and it's possible that pricing may be a bit lower than it's been for the past few years now that Ryzen's out and competing with Intel's HEDT platforms.

 

[Shnuggles]

Is there any reason in particular for why you want to do a rebuild? For example, why are you even suggesting moving to a new motherboard; are there new features on the RVE10 that you really want?

Regardless of your reasoning though, I'd say that it's not worth building anything new just now. Intel's Skylake-X is coming out in the next few months, and that would be a more worthwhile upgrade as it'll get you Skylake/Kaby Lake IPC + all the new specs you've seen featured on z170/z270 that you're probably looking for, without having to downgrade to a lower core count CPU, and it's possible that pricing may be a bit lower than it's been for the past few years now that Ryzen's out and competing with Intel's HEDT platforms.

The entire reason I'm doing a new build is because I regret not making the computer I have now RGB, and the case is hideous as hell, I hate everything about my current PC, aesthetically, and I just absolutely love how the RVE10 looks.

Plus I just want the experience as this would be my second time building a PC, the 1080 ti for my triple monitor setup would be an excellent increase as well.

As for the Skylake-X, what is that? I haven't heard anything of it.

 

[Mammatus]

No. The 5830k is still a very very good processor. You wont see any improvement, or very negligeable (0-5 fps).

Clicky

Keep your money, or upgrade something else!!! ;-)

 

[mdd1963]

Money isn't an issue, and I've been running Windows 10 since launch and love it.
Though it's a very tough issue though, I've seen some videos where people get more FPS in games with the i7 5930k, and some videos where people get more FPS with the 7700k.

Nobody gets faster gaming framerates with a 5930K unless system was also streaming/folding/crunching something...

Game-wise, the 7700K still rules unopposed....

And please don't waste $200 extra on the latest 'name' of Z270 Rampage/Killer/Fata1ity, etc....; a board with such names that achieves the same framerates as a basic $165 Asus Z270A Prime is hardly worth $365....

 

[doubletake]

As for the Skylake-X, what is that? I haven't heard anything of it.

It's the high-end version of the Skylake architecture (Core 6000 range), meaning the 6/8/10 core variants (for example, your current CPU is Haswell-E, the high-end range of the Haswell architecture e.g. 4670/4690/4770/4790 CPUs).

The reason I mention this being a potentially more worthy upgrade path is because Kaby Lake (e.g. 7700K) performance is identical to Skylake (e.g. 6700k) when clock speeds are the same, so instead of downgrading to a slightly faster 4 core part for gaming, you should just wait for the upcoming 6/8/10 core parts of the same architecture so that you no longer have to pick between fewer but slightly faster cores, or more but slightly slower cores.

 

[Shnuggles]

As for the Skylake-X, what is that? I haven't heard anything of it.

It's the high-end version of the Skylake architecture (Core 6000 range), meaning the 6/8/10 core variants (for example, your current CPU is Haswell-E, the high-end range of the Haswell architecture e.g. 4670/4690/4770/4790 CPUs).

The reason I mention this being a potentially more worthy upgrade path is because Kaby Lake (e.g. 7700K) performance is identical to Skylake (e.g. 6700k) when clock speeds are the same, so instead of downgrading to a slightly faster 4 core part for gaming, you should just wait for the upcoming 6/8/10 core parts of the same architecture so that you no longer have to pick between fewer but slightly faster cores, or more but slightly slower cores.

Ok I'll do just that then and wait for Skylake-X, any idea when it's going to release roughly? I see it's probably going to be announced at Computex 2017 in May?

 

[Shnuggles]

As for the Skylake-X, what is that? I haven't heard anything of it.

It's the high-end version of the Skylake architecture (Core 6000 range), meaning the 6/8/10 core variants (for example, your current CPU is Haswell-E, the high-end range of the Haswell architecture e.g. 4670/4690/4770/4790 CPUs).

The reason I mention this being a potentially more worthy upgrade path is because Kaby Lake (e.g. 7700K) performance is identical to Skylake (e.g. 6700k) when clock speeds are the same, so instead of downgrading to a slightly faster 4 core part for gaming, you should just wait for the upcoming 6/8/10 core parts of the same architecture so that you no longer have to pick between fewer but slightly faster cores, or more but slightly slower cores.

Also what socket will the new Skylake-X be? Will I be able to use the X99 Motherboard for it? Or will I need a Z270?

 

[Darthutos]

it's called x299 via techreport. chipset and no x99 won't work.

please do not buy a z270 if you plan to buy skylake-x

 

[Shnuggles]

it's called x299 via techreport. chipset and no x99 won't work.

please do not buy a z270 if you plan to buy skylake-x

How much would we be talking for the Skylake-X CPU you think? $500-600?

 

[Darthutos]

well when skylake -x cpu is 500 to 600 ryzen 17 will be 200.
Personally I would actually buy the ryzen 7 as of this moment. I'm pretty sure the hypothetical ryzen 17 and the skylake-x would be on par performance wise.

 

[Shnuggles]

well when skylake -x cpu is 500 to 600 ryzen 17 will be 200.
Personally I would actually buy the ryzen 7 as of this moment. I'm pretty sure the hypothetical ryzen 17 and the skylake-x would be on par performance wise.

Will Skylake-X be $500-600 at launch? Or more towards $1000?

 

[Darthutos]

it all depends on how many people end up actually buying ryzen instead of waiting around for pressure from amd toward intel just so that people expect to buy cheaper intel because ryzen exist. If just the fact that ryzen exist and no one buys ryzen, then you can expect 3000 for skylake-x. just the way world works.