I7 6700k or wait for skylake e?

[Guest]

Hello

I would like to ask if its worth it to wait for the e series processors of skylake and lga 2017 or i should simply go for the 1151 socket i will have to buy ddr4 anyway

Parts i would reuse in the skylake build gigabyte gtx 970 g1 gaming xfx pro edition xxx 850w (i also have a computer case but i dont know what kind of)

Now i use the a10-6800k its great and very fast but overheats with the artic freezer 13 and kolink 4g thermal paste
http://hutopaszta.arukereso.hu/kolink/4g-p278131035/
i applied everything correctly and still i cant understand why so i will just change it
if i turn off the igpu of the a10-6800k it stays around 72C stock speed under load so i can use it (33-37C idle)
Its goes above 80c with the igpu enabled

The i7 6700k looked great on benchmarks so if i buy in the summer i would buy that
But the i7 4790k and i7 5820k are close in price so i expect skylake e to have a processor with similar price as the i7 6700k

I never miss out on overclocking the main use is gaming web browsing movie watching
The resolution is 900p i will buy 16gb ddr4 and asus rog or msi gaming for the mobo

Thanks for reading my thread and helping me

 

[InvalidError]

You do not need to buy DDR4 for Skylake LGA-1151, it supports both DDR3 and DDR4, so you only need to pick a motherboard that implements DDR3 slots instead of DDR4.

Skylake-E is still almost a year away, not really an option if you have an itch to upgrade in the near future.

 

[Guest]

I have high voltage ddr3 so i will have to change it anyway but its not a problem since i cant use the ram i have now i would like to buy ddr4 its also personal preference

 

[Sakkura]

There's no reason to wait for Skylake-E for gaming and everyday use. The Core i7-6700K already borders on overkill for that use.

 

[Guest]

Thank you for the answers

I see your point but consumers do recommend the i7 5820k over the i7 4790k sure the i7 6700k is the max i will need

 

[Sakkura]

I wouldn't recommend a Core i7-5820K over a Core i7-4790K for gaming or everyday use.

 

[Guest]

^^ than i consider you a wise man
What would be the skylake around the performance level of the a10-6800k?
Will i have problems with overheat?

 

[InvalidError]

Skylake has higher TDP ratings than Haswell but that is mainly due to the beefed up IGP.

As far as overheating is concerned, chips do not overheat when their stock heatsink is properly installed with decent case airflow unless you overclock/overvolt them. If you muck up the heatsink installation, have poor case airflow or start playing around with OC/OV, then any CPU has the potential to overheat.

 

[Guest]

I mean on the performance level of the a10-6800k
I turned off oc and set stock voltage it still overheats i think bcs of this
http://hutopaszta.arukereso.hu/kolink/4g-p278131035/
Even thou i have an aftermarket cooler artic freezer 13

 

[Sakkura]

A Core i3 would generally perform on par with or better than an A10-6800K. A Core i7-6700K would perform beyond anything AMD has to offer. AMD is hoping for their upcoming Zen architecture to close the gap; right now Intel is way ahead of them.

 

[InvalidError]

Using off-brand thermal paste (at least I have absolutely no idea what or who "Kolink" is) might be a problem. Stick to thermal paste brands you can get actual proper spec sheets for. The best heatsink in the world does you little to no good if you use mayonnaise for TIM.

 

[InvalidError]

AMD is hoping for their upcoming Zen architecture to close the gap; right now Intel is way ahead of them.

If Zen delivers even half of the 40% IPC improvement AMD claims it will and Skylake delivers anywhere from 5% worse to 5% better performance like leaked benchmarks show, the performance gap might shrink noticeably next year.

 

[Sakkura]

Using off-brand thermal paste (at least I have absolutely no idea what or who "Kolink" is) might be a problem.

Kolink/Coolink does R&D and production for Noctua.

 

[Guest]

So i should wait till next year? Will the a10 survive till than?

 

[Guest]

"Kolink/Coolink does R&D and production for Noctua. " so this means...? Kolink is the problem or its ok?

 

[Sakkura]

So i should wait till next year? Will the a10 survive till than?

I would suggest upgrading to Skylake when it arrives. Not necessarily a Core i7, a Core i5 is still a big upgrade and will do well in games.

"Kolink/Coolink does R&D and production for Noctua. " so this means...? Kolink is the problem or its ok?

I don't know that specific thermal paste, but at least the company can make stuff that works fine.

 

[Guest]

The artic silver is very cheap when im thinking about a 800$+ cost upgrade i will try that

If i go skylake-s i7 6700k it is
its personal preference (only of course if the prices are resonable i mean around the i7 4790k)

But it seems its not that big of an upgrade :/
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2742152/skylake-cpu-performance-benchmarks-hours-ago-worth-wait.html

 

[Sakkura]

It probably won't be a significant upgrade over a 4790K, at stock clocks.

Thing is, the 4790K is basically a factory overclocked 4770K. So there's not much overclocking headroom left. The 6700K is like the 4770K of its generation, so there could be more overclocking headroom available.

 

[Guest]

The i7 4790k has better temps on higher clock speeds than the i7 4770k

Wait are you saying i should wait for the factory oced version? Like i7 6790k or what?

 

[InvalidError]

Wait are you saying i should wait for the factory oced version? Like i7 6790k or what?

Since Intel plans to go tick-tock-tock (go up from two to three designs per process node), there won't be a Skylake-Refresh to fill the inter-generation gap like there was with Haswell. The extended inter-process gap will get filled by Kaby Lake.

 

[Guest]

If i read benchmarks and opinions correctly skylake is not worth it
I might have to wait a bit more :/ maybe cannonlake or or that Kaby lake you mentioned

 

[kmo911]

Core i7-5820K cant run at full speed in x and sli. about 24 lanes against 48 lanes on pcie- still a good buy over that mor exspensive x5960 and lover but with 48 lanes x5930 cpu. 3dmark would be the same. a little more speedy on some games and 4k would be overkill. when fallout 4 are out now and im trying to go 4k with a gtx asus gtx 4gb ram 16 ram i would lag alot. the game will stop up about 4-15 sec and the go again. 7200 rpm hd inside. fully mydefrag mented. so go for a new motherborad and dont hold back on 4th gen. cpus with higer then they have now would come out q1 to q3 and new pcie 4 would be on theese new motherboards with ati 1000x and nvidia 1000x gpu s. maybe even with ddr5 ram from asrock mb comes out later.