Question i7 6700k vs upper level cpu video editing --- should i upgrade?

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is my specification ok so far for after effects rendering speed.
i7 6700k 4ghz
32gb corsair ddr4
2x 2tb Samsung ssd
1x m.2 Samsung ssd
z270x gaming 9 MB
gtx 980 ti
corsair modular psu
cpu cooler after market corsair high quality

how do i update the bios to 2020 since it says 2017. i dont want to mess it up.

i am looking to maybe upgrade to upper level CPU ? do i need to and will it be worth it.

what will you recommend me do to make the most out of performance in after effects rendering.

will i also face any bottle neck in gaming 1080p i have 4k monitor. i will need to hook up a dvi cable to se what i get out of it.
 
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Don't know much about video editing, but 6th gen is getting a little old(still should be fine). Don't really see any particularly glaring bottlenecks, so you should be a-okay for gaming, I guess the 980 Ti would be, but it's still nearly dead centre between the 1660 Super and the RX 5600 XT or the 5700 (not XT). Unfortunately, gen 10 CPUs use different slots, so try to avoid upgrading for as long as you can reasonably do. Maybe a gen 8 or 9(if that even works), but those shouldn't be actually supported, despite the same port. Sometimes they will start, but performance won't be peak(due to different architectures). Go for the Ryzen 7 3700Xs gen 4 equivalent when the Ryzen 4000s drop, paired with a B550 mobo. Maybe even wait for Ryzen 5000s if you are willing to wait a year. Intel is getting demolished by AMD right now and are very slow to react. They still make decisions like they're the big dogs, but in reality they're the actual underdogs. Maybe they'll realize they need to make change to match AMD, but they're even withholding features on some of their chipsets to try to raise value of their higher end chipsets. Just go AMD.
 

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You understanding of AMD is out of date. Generally AMD are better for multi tasking than Intel but Intel are catching up.
i will google that and se if your question is correct.
is amd with lots of core speed up rendering in after effects i mean fast
 

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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X
is that the best one
Well it's not necessarily the best cost to performance. I don't use upper-end hardware(just the Ryzen 5s or i5s), so I wouldn't know. For multi-tasking, AMD wins on two fronts, the fact that they have better core count to price ratios and that they don't cap their RAM speeds like Intel does. Intel is probably still winning in terms of single-core performance, but not as much as they used to. I think AMD is the better choice except for some very specific usages. Along with the fact that AMDs chipsets(the mid to low range especially) are better value and have more features, AMD wins all day for me. I currently have an i5-9400F, but I wish my PC was running a Ryzen 5 3600 instead. Bought this build used for less than one year at under half of what it was originally bought for. Intel isn't out of the picture, so don't rule them out, I jsut prefer AMD.
 

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i am willing to spend what i need to, i dont want to go back to i5 or i7 i am looking for high end cpu something that will render fast FAst.
does amd cpu get hotter than intel or what.
 
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"i am willing to spend what i need to, i dont want to go back to i5 or i7 i am looking for high end cpu something that will render fast FAst.

Here's a comparison of both flagships: https://versus.com/en/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3990x-vs-intel-core-i9-10980xe
AMD is the winner all round except for the price tag.

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"does amd cpu get hotter than intel or what."

Your going to need a decent water cooler to get best performance to render FAST with either.

Your going to have to upgrade your Motherboard in either case so your up for extreme expense to spend what you feel you need to.

In conclusion: If your budget is unlimited then threadripper with 64 cores is king ATM
 

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Threadripper 3990X ok fine
what is best motherboard for this dont go cheap on me
and memory and water cooler, i normally hate water cooler as i will not beable to monitor how much fluid is left or might kick and break the glass in any way
 

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is my specification ok so far for after effects rendering speed.
i7 6700k 4ghz
32gb corsair ddr4
2x 2tb Samsung ssd
1x m.2 Samsung ssd
z270x gaming 9 MB
gtx 980 ti
corsair modular psu
cpu cooler after market corsair high quality

how do i update the bios to 2020 since it says 2017. i dont want to mess it up.

i am looking to maybe upgrade to upper level CPU ? do i need to and will it be worth it.

what will you recommend me do to make the most out of performance in after effects rendering.

will i also face any bottle neck in gaming 1080p i have 4k monitor. i will need to hook up a dvi cable to se what i get out of it.
The first and most important things that must be asked to you:

1.) Do you really feel like you need to upgrade?
2.) Does your current CPU feel slow or is it no longer up to the task?
3.) What is your budget?

If you answered "no" to either of the first two, then the answer is "Don't waste money on a need created by hype."

If you answered yes to the first two, then the answer of #3 is critical. What you're doing can get very expensive very quickly. The pie-in-the-sky answer would be:

AMD Threadripper 3990X: $3,600USD
NZXT Kraken Z Series Z73 360mm: $280 (Liquid is a must with this CPU)
GIGABYTE TRX40 AORUS MASTER sTRX4 Motherboard: $522
G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 256GB (8 x 32GB) DDR4-2666: $800
PNY VCQRTX6000-PB Quadro RTX 6000 24GB GDDR6 Video Card: $7,106

The total for what would be an ultimate rig is $12, 308USD
Enjoy! 💲💲💲💲💲💲💲:LOL: 💲💲💲💲💲💲💲💲
 
Threadripper 3990X ok fine
what is best motherboard for this dont go cheap on me
and memory and water cooler, i normally hate water cooler as i will not beable to monitor how much fluid is left or might kick and break the glass in any way
Good then the CPU is sorted.

I am a power user with a preference for ASUS and the following all support Threadripper:
ROG Zenith II Extreme, ROG Strix TRX40 Gaming-E and ASUS Prime TRX40-Pro support the 3990X CPU .
As to which one is of personal choice depending on your needs.

Water Cooling is essential if you wish to Overclock. Much improvement in AIO coolers show they do not leak as some pundits try to claim but leaks are a thing of the past. They are a sealed unit with no need to monitor like you do with an Open water cooled system.

Many AIO companies offer Warranty against leakage so long as the unit has not been tampered with.
EVGA have excellent support as do Corsair and NZXT which I believe offer 7 years warranty.
 

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Good then the CPU is sorted.

I am a power user with a preference for ASUS and the following all support Threadripper:
ROG Zenith II Extreme, ROG Strix TRX40 Gaming-E and ASUS Prime TRX40-Pro support the 3990X CPU .
As to which one is of personal choice depending on your needs.

Water Cooling is essential if you wish to Overclock. Much improvement in AIO coolers show they do not leak as some pundits try to claim but leaks are a thing of the past. They are a sealed unit with no need to monitor like you do with an Open water cooled system.

Many AIO companies offer Warranty against leakage so long as the unit has not been tampered with.
EVGA have excellent support as do Corsair and NZXT which I believe offer 7 years warranty.
am wanting to build a beast machine i want power.
i normally work with 1080p or 4k footage break them into image sequence and than work from there so the render is much more fast without any codec disturbing the work.

i use after effects,3dmax,c4d name it all others and i7 6700k is not to bad but like i said i need power mate.

like i said it should be a one time buy i do not want to get it and find out dam its not what i want. do not worry about the budget just show me the cpu and mb i need i want best of the best 2020.

i know that cpu like that will render 1080p and 4k like cake.
 
Intel is still better for adobe after effects. And you don't need a threadripper. A Ryzen 9 3900x could handle your rendering while also doing other things. Going above 8 cores for after effects isn't really worth it unless you wanna do other things on the PC while you're rendering. A threadripper just isn't worth it for your use case. Also I wouldn't get a quadro I'd get a Titan even then the titan is going to be outdated in days. So it's not even worth considering.
 
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Intel is still better for adobe after effects. And you don't need a threadripper. A Ryzen 9 3900x could handle your rendering while also doing other things. Going above 8 cores for after effects isn't really worth it unless you wanna do other things on the PC while you're rendering. A threadripper just isn't worth it for your use case. Also I wouldn't get a quadro I'd get a Titan even then the titan is going to be outdated in days. So it's not even worth considering.
thanks man i was also thinking hmm intel is outdated and amd is way ahead that is what people are saying here,maybe yes because amd has more cores.

but i needed better information like this should i go for i9900k
main thing is to handle after effects rendering and preview speed should render fast rather than waiting for it to play through so it renders first i needed something that works strait away.
for example in adobe premier if you add video than transitions and hit play with audi.mp3 also added to the project it all plays well and no lag no render that is something am looking to do so my work can be done faster rather than adding effects than wait for it to render that and play it,it is time consuming task.

this is why i wanted a faster cpu to make render quick
 
No point in going 9th gen when 10th gen is out. The Core i7 10700K is the CPU you should pick and cram the RAM in it. I'd at least get 64GB of RAM. 128GB of RAM would do best. The more RAM the better in a workstation. I have 32GB of RAM and I do work on my computer. I am hitting the limits. I think I'd hit limits on 64GB too. I do gamedev and video editing mostly as far as work goes. And if you had more cores like 12 or 16 you could use 6 or 8 cores for adobe after effects and use 6 or 8 cores for general use. So that PC wouldn't need to be completely tied up while it is rendering. AMD Ryzen 9 is the way to go if you would like 12 or 16 cores. If you just want faster renders the i7 10700K or i9 10900K would be a bit faster but not a whole lot. I think personally that having the extra cores available in the Ryzen 9 3900x or 3950x would be much nicer to have so I could still use my computer.
 

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No point in going 9th gen when 10th gen is out. The Core i7 10700K is the CPU you should pick and cram the RAM in it. I'd at least get 64GB of RAM. 128GB of RAM would do best. The more RAM the better in a workstation. I have 32GB of RAM and I do work on my computer. I am hitting the limits. I think I'd hit limits on 64GB too. I do gamedev and video editing mostly as far as work goes. And if you had more cores like 12 or 16 you could use 6 or 8 cores for adobe after effects and use 6 or 8 cores for general use. So that PC wouldn't need to be completely tied up while it is rendering. AMD Ryzen 9 is the way to go if you would like 12 or 16 cores. If you just want faster renders the i7 10700K or i9 10900K would be a bit faster but not a whole lot. I think personally that having the extra cores available in the Ryzen 9 3900x or 3950x would be much nicer to have so I could still use my computer.
but searching on google it says adobe after effects uses only 1 core? so why go for ryzen than.
i will probably look at i7 10700K .
i se that i9 is competing with ryzen 9 can you tell me if i shoudl go for i9900k or i7 10700K

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-10700K/4028vs4070

i9 beats 10gen


Intel Core i9-10980XE
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X
 
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but searching on google it says adobe after effects uses only 1 core? so why go for ryzen than.
i will probably look at i7 10700K .
i se that i9 is competing with ryzen 9 can you tell me if i shoudl go for i9900k or i7 10700K

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-10700K/4028vs4070

i9 beats 10gen


Intel Core i9-10980XE
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X
That's a 10th gen i9. I see that the i9 9960X beat the i9-10940X, but they're different tiers(hence the 40 instead of a 60). The i9-10940X costs about 150 USD less. Of course it will underperforme, what do you expect? And even then, it's a marginal difference. And keep in mind that the new gens pricing is still a little inflated. One gen prior will have some price cuts, but not enough to make it competitive.
 

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but searching on google it says adobe after effects uses only 1 core? so why go for ryzen than.
i will probably look at i7 10700K .
i se that i9 is competing with ryzen 9 can you tell me if i shoudl go for i9900k or i7 10700K

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-10700K/4028vs4070

i9 beats 10gen


Intel Core i9-10980XE
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X
Also, take a look atthe Ryzen 9 3950X(710USD). It costs less than the i9-10940X(832USD) or the i9-10980XE(1130USD), while surpasing both(slightly) in single, dual and quad core. It also beats the i9-980XE in octa core as well.

Ryzen 9 3900X vs i9-10980XE

Ryzen 9 3950X vs i9-10940X

I got the prices from pcpartpicker:

Ryzen 9 3950X

i9-10980XE

i9-10940X

So yeah, AMD is the way to go, without a doubt. Even looking at the benchmark you used, you can tell the difference. You'll also get to save a couple hundred bucks in the process. Ofc the i9s are currently out of stock on their cheapest retailers, but even if you buy at the right time, that just saves you 30 bucks on the 10980XE and 130 bucks on the 10940X. To me it just seems like the i9-10400X is getting close, but the Ryzen 9 3950X just delivers all the performance you need on single core, while giving you 16 of them.
 
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but searching on google it says adobe after effects uses only 1 core? so why go for ryzen than.
i will probably look at i7 10700K .
i se that i9 is competing with ryzen 9 can you tell me if i shoudl go for i9900k or i7 10700K

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-10700K/4028vs4070

i9 beats 10gen


Intel Core i9-10980XE
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X
As for the benchmark you linked, the reason why the i9-9900K is so much cheaper is because it is old tech. The i7-10700K's price is inflated because of it not only because it is newest gen, but also because it uses a different socket than the 9th gen. You won't be able to upgrade a gen 9 intel without ditching the mobo and maybe even RAM(bc DDR5 could have been released, we never know). The 10th gen should last another 3 gens, before the architecture becomes to different to work well with the current gen 10 chipset(although could still work since same socket).
 

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should i go for AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X
Well it depends on your budget. Threadrippers have more cores than you probably need. If you want to do some other types of CPU rendering that use more cores, than sure it could help. I don't like to encourage people to spend more money, I always go for mid range best value. I understand other people have different needs, so it really just depends on what you need out of your CPU.
 

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should i go for AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X
Take a look at this benchmark:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-3950X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-TR-3990X/4057vsm1035665

The Ryzen 9 3950X will actually outperform the TR 3990X on up to 8 core(and presumably up to all of it's 16 cores), but only falls far behind in higher core(like the 64 core benchmark). That means that the Threadripper will destroy in any all-core heavy processing, but will fall behind in lower core tasks, like gaming or as a desktop computer(which isn't your need anyways). Since Adobe After Effects seems to be single core, then you don't really need a threadripper, it may actually be outperformed in after effects. The benchmark you showed should be an all cores bench.

Here's a benchmark comparision:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YbcgiYja3w


If you look at the Cinebench test, you'll notice that the Threadripper destroys in the all-cores test, but loses to both the R9 3950X and the i9-10980XE in single core.

It also loses slightly in most games(being a lower core task).

There are so many great reviews of the R9 3950X. If you just want single core performance, I think the R9 3950X might actually do a little better. A TR is much more expensive and for After Effects. Take a look at this article:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-After-Effects-144/Hardware-Recommendations

It even recommends the R9 3900X over the R9 3950X. This is because the R9 3900X has less cores, but a higher clock speed, so it beats the R9 3950X ever so slightly in anything 12 cores or less(as it has 12 instead of the 16 that the R9 3950X has).

Ryzen 9 3950X vs Ryzen 9 3900X

Maybe consider the Ryzen 9 3900XT(it was released later than the article I believe):

Ryzen 9 3900XT vs Ryzen 9 3900X

Here is the pricing from PCPartPicker

Ryzen 9 3950X 710 USD

Ryzen 9 3900X 430 USD

Ryzen 9 3900XT 480 USD

Ryzen Threadripper 3990X an ungodly 3565 USD. The taxes on that cost more than my triple A gaming CPU lol

i9-10980XE 1130 USD, out of stock at 1000 USD

So to me, the Ryzen 9 3900X or XT are the best picks bar none. They will save you an ungodly amount of money compared to the Threadripper with better 12 core and under performance. Adobe After Effects might start supporting more cores in later versions(like it does in 2015 and older versions) in which case the Threadripper will be 2.5 times faster(at 64 core processing), but for under one seventh of the cost, the Ryzen 9 3900 XT or X will do just fine. There also is clearly no point in getting the i9-10980XE for over double the cost of a Ryzen 9 3900XT when performance is nearly identical or even worse than the Ryzen 9 3900XT, aside from 64 core(which I assume would just be all-core) performance, according to UserBenchmark.

I'd get the Ryzen 9 3900X if I were you. Ryzen 3900XT costs more for slightly more performance, so I wouldn't recommend it. The Ryzen 9 3950X is the middle man, the i9-10980XE is just simply worse in nearly all categories for much more of your cash. The Threadripper 3990X will just sit to rot for most of the time you own it. If you have some buddies or co-workers that could put it to good use when you aren't using it, then maybe(or even if you both use it at the same time), but in the end, the 3565 USD is just so much more than a Ryzen 9 3900X. You would get better performance and cost by buying three Ryzen 9 3900Xs and splitting the workload between 3 computers(which isn't actually practical, just making a joke).
 
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should i go for AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X
Just keep in ming what sort of RAM limitations it has, the Ryzen 9 3950X will only support 128GB at 3200Mhz Dual Channel, compared to the 256GB at 3200Mhz and presumably quad channel. The TR 2950X could support 2TB RAM at 2666Mhz Quad channel, so idk where that went. The TR 2950X only costs 840 USD, so could consider that if you want more RAM.

Ofc, it's all-core performance still falls behind even the Ryzen 9 3900X, not even looking at it's single core.

Here's a vid:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stM2CPF9YAY
 
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