i7 7700,rx 580 or r5 1600 gtx 1070?

SrRemy99

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I need some help plz i have like 1100 euros for a pc, but i dont know what configuration to buy, i think that the i5 7600k is too short it has only 4 cores and is not futureproof and in all games it uses the 100%.

-i7 7700(NO K 309€) rx 580(300€ only graphic)
-r5 1600(NO x 250€) gtx 1070(374 99€ only graphic )
-r5 1600x and rx 580

I will buy the AOC G2460PF 144hz monitor - NOT INCLUDED IN THE PC PRICE
 

SrRemy99

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but i can't use 3200 ram i can use only 2400 because im getting a 90€ motherboard, and im thinking about the ryzen 1500X

and also i dont want to overclock nothing , because i dont know how
 

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now i want this Gigabyte AB350M-Gaming 3 is only 2 euros more and it supports 3200(O.C.)mhz ram. but ram is not cheap...

look this list: https://www.pccomponentes.com/lista-de-deseos/XZF9hO5J5W9sF9 i will change the rx 580 for an amazon gtx 1070 that costs 375 , it will be fine?

- but here is the problem the monitor that i want is FREESYNC
 
Are you prepared to overclock? If so, drop down to a 1600 (non X). You actually get a cooler with that, and the stock cooler is enough to get to 3.8Ghz or so. If the budget is really tight you can even ditch the Hyper 212 Evo cooler you have there and pick one up later.

How much extra is the 2400Mhz GSkill Flare X RAM kit in your region? It's worth pricing and paying a little extra money for if you can (not a lot of extra money, but 10 - 15% extra).

You won't be able to enable Freesync with that GTX 1070, but the monitor will still work file and you can set it to run at its maximum refresh rate. Don't pay extra for the Freesync feature you can't use, but there's no reason to avoid it... the monitor will still work fine.
 

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G.Skill FlareX DDR4 2400 PC4-19200 16GB 2x8GB CL15 - it costs 132 € , cheaper than the corsair vengance , but the corsair ara 3000mhz.
 


From tests it shows that between 2400mhz and 3200 there is about a 2.32% performance increase so don't worry. 2400 is good enough.
 

Right - I misread your Ram speed (on my screen the PC-24000 gets wrapped and I read "2400" -> thinking that was your RAM speed). You **may** still be better off manually overclocking a Flare X kit, but I don't know enough about that to be sure. Sticking with that Corsair 3000Mhz kit is not a bad decision.

FYI @Jaslion, RAM speed does make a bigger difference than that for gaming on Ryzen. It's not the silver bullet some people are saying it is, but it does make a significant and measurable difference.
 


I agree with this fella.
drop the cooler,go for the 1600 with its stock cooler.

change the psu out for this one

https://www.pccomponentes.com/corsair-cx550m-550w-80-plus-bronze

because its a far better unit

go for the full size gaming 3 board

https://www.pccomponentes.com/gigabyte-ga-ab350-gaming-3-reacondicionado

Because that board is confirmed as running ram at 2933 & overclocking fairly easily ( the matx version may be the same but not seen any reviews of it)

go for gskill trident - same nand as the flare x

https://www.pccomponentes.com/g-skill-trident-z-ddr4-2800-pc4-22400-16gb-2x8gb-cl15

regarding freesync monitor with an nvidia gpu ? not an issue mate,the 1070 has adaptive vsync anyway which does a good job when you drop below native refresh - some people reckon it introduces lag but its not an issue Ive ever had,



 


I've been looking into this and it's quite weird 2666 mhz seems like the sweetspot however some boards make the higher speeds have less impact then others. 2400 mhz is a generally fine frequency but 2666 mhz is the best value.
 

Hardware Nexus has some really interesting videos on RAM scaling with Ryzen @ 1080P gaming. Quite a number of games show measurable improvements all the way up to 3200Mhz. Of course - those videos are with a 1080ti at 1080P... which is going to exaggerate performance gains, but if OP wants to keep the CPU + Mobo + RAM for 1 upgrade cycle and picks up a new midrange GPU in 2-3 years, that's would then bring RAM even more into the mix. I'm not for a second suggesting OP throws big dollars at fast RAM over other more important components, but it is worth spending 5-15Euro extra on a decent Samsung B die kit and investing some time getting it to 2933, or higher if you can.
 

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R5 1600 non X.

R5 1600X is only for enthusiasts who know why they are picking it over the R5 1600. It also doesn't include the wraith spire, unlike the 1600 non X which does have a decent cooler included.

I would take the R5 1600 over the i7-7700.
 

SrRemy99

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Why? the cost is the same , becose with the r5 1600 I need more powerful ram and the motherboards for i7 7700 are cheaper there are 20 dollars of diference about the r5 and the i7

 
^ where are you ? That pricing is off , in the UK the 1600 is £60 cheaper than the 7700, boards are about the same price.
I already posted a good ram choice with the gskill trident 2800 above , its about €3 more expensive than the corsair - I'd pay that just for the aesthetics if it personally .
 
On that site the ryzen 1600 is €50 cheaper than a 7700, the ryzen 1700 is only €19 more .

There's barely any performance difference in gaming now between them in all honesty even though ryzen is a fledgeling platform

On a future-proofing front they both offer masses more theoretical overhead than a locked I7 IMO.