i7-8700 vs i7-7700 vs Ryzen for my usage?

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I am looking to build a new system, and have read much on new CPUs, but could use some advice on picking the best CPU for by situation. I am looking between i7-8700, 7700, or a Ryzen equivalent.

This is a home office PC, will be running windows 10
- Medium gaming (Civ 6, Planet Coaster, and older city-building games)
- Possibly light video editing. It is a hobby but one I don't have time for.
- Office applications, web, email, etc.
- My kids playing roblox when I have work to do

I will re-use a Radeon R9-380 video card in this build

I have not overclocked in the past, and really don't think I would in this build.

Is it worth waiting for 8700 availability, and paying the premium for new CPU and upgraded motherboard, etc; or will 7700 fit my needs for the next few years just fine? Should I consider one of the Ryzen alternatives?

Thanks
 
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Given the following criteria, I'd say a Ryzen 1600X would be a great bang for your buck and keep you chugging for a few years. However, if you've got the budget and the patience I'd definitely grab an i7 8700. It'll smoke that 1600X even if the 1600X is overclocked. You just really don't "need" it (I'd say) but again, if you've got the $$$ then what the hell...

1) Light application usage that doesn't require much CPU at all
2) Occasional video editing (the 12 threads help here)
3) Gaming on an R9 380, doesn't require much CPU to feed this GPU and a Ryzen core CPU will be fine

If you wanted to spring a few extra bucks you could grab a Ryzen 1700 but if you're not going to overclock it, believe it or not, the i7 8700 might beat it...
I would say equivalent ryzen (maybe 1700 or 1700x? Wouldn't go lower than a 1600x, don't go 1800x because that's just an overclcoked 1700) because of the extra cores and threads, you would be able to use things like your video editing really well, any other workstation needs you would be using will run smoothly and gaming will be smooth, you shouldn't run into any hiccups when gaming
 
Given the following criteria, I'd say a Ryzen 1600X would be a great bang for your buck and keep you chugging for a few years. However, if you've got the budget and the patience I'd definitely grab an i7 8700. It'll smoke that 1600X even if the 1600X is overclocked. You just really don't "need" it (I'd say) but again, if you've got the $$$ then what the hell...

1) Light application usage that doesn't require much CPU at all
2) Occasional video editing (the 12 threads help here)
3) Gaming on an R9 380, doesn't require much CPU to feed this GPU and a Ryzen core CPU will be fine

If you wanted to spring a few extra bucks you could grab a Ryzen 1700 but if you're not going to overclock it, believe it or not, the i7 8700 might beat it out even for your video editing with the 8700's power and high stock clock.

You mention not overclocking but to OC on Ryzen its as simple as grabbing the necessary chipset mobo, a decent cooler and changing 2 settings in the BIOS in most cases. Pretty simply and its a good boost. As for the Intel chips, the whole reason the new CPUs are so much more powerful than previous Intel CPUs and Ryzen is simply because Intel is clocking them so high out of the factory. They're kinda cheating...but its all good.

IF you're gonna go Ryzen, it behooves you to pick up the highest speed DDR4 RAM you can find that runs well on your motherboard. Stick to the RAM that's on the QVL for the board or even better, find RAM that people are stating works in their reviews of the motherboard. If you get 2933+ you're in good shape. Note that RAM prices are BRUTAL right now. They're literally double what they were 8 months ago, so it'll sting a little. These prices should start to level off but it may not be until we get in to 2018. Micron certainly doesn't mind though as their stock prices have soared... If you're gonna go Intel you can stick to 2666.

My two cents
 
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Need vs Want is my moral dilemma. What I need I don't want, and what I want I don't really need.

Thanks for the answers, this helps my decision along.

I think I will wait for the 8700. I have clearance from my wife to build a new PC about every 4 years, so got to make it count when the permission slip is signed.
 



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