Question i7 9700 throttlestop settings
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uWebb429
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Your screenshot shows that Max power consumption was 97.2 Watts. Increasing the turbo power limits higher than 150 W is not necessary. It will not accomplish anything. It looks like your CPU does not need that much power to run at full speed.
I usually set the turbo time limit to the default value which is typically 28 seconds. This time limit controls how long the CPU will run at the PL2 power limit before it changes to the PL1 power limit. Both of your power limits are set to the same value so in this case the turbo time limit does not make any difference. Whether the CPU switches from the 150W PL2 power limit to the 150W PL1 power limit after 1 second or after 28 seconds makes no difference.
Turn on the Log File option on the main ThrottleStop screen and then go play a game for at least 15 minutes. That way you will have a record of your CPU performance when you are done. If you want me to have a look at this information, copy and paste the log file data to
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Your CPU is running nice and cool and the power limits are set high enough so there should be no throttling reported in the log file.
Try running Cinebench. That will fully load your CPU. Watch the ThrottleStop Limit Reasons window for any signs of throttling lighting up red during this test. You can also log data while this benchmark is running.
Post a screenshot of the FIVR window so I can see those settings.
I usually set the turbo time limit to the default value which is typically 28 seconds. This time limit controls how long the CPU will run at the PL2 power limit before it changes to the PL1 power limit. Both of your power limits are set to the same value so in this case the turbo time limit does not make any difference. Whether the CPU switches from the 150W PL2 power limit to the 150W PL1 power limit after 1 second or after 28 seconds makes no difference.
Turn on the Log File option on the main ThrottleStop screen and then go play a game for at least 15 minutes. That way you will have a record of your CPU performance when you are done. If you want me to have a look at this information, copy and paste the log file data to
www.pastebin.com
Your CPU is running nice and cool and the power limits are set high enough so there should be no throttling reported in the log file.
Try running Cinebench. That will fully load your CPU. Watch the ThrottleStop Limit Reasons window for any signs of throttling lighting up red during this test. You can also log data while this benchmark is running.
Post a screenshot of the FIVR window so I can see those settings.
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uWebb429
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No need to spend all day downloading Cinebench. I just find it is a good full load test. It is a little more real world compared to some torture tests like Prime95. If you mostly game and your games do not crash then that is all that is important.
The FIVR screenshot you posted shows that the CPU should be using the 45 multiplier in game. It seems to only be using the 44 multiplier. Try checking the Speed Shift box in the TPL window. It is possible that Windows 11 or the BIOS is not setting your CPU up correctly.
The screenshot above shows power consumption at 143.9W. Your temperatures are excellent so you can safely increase both turbo power limits to 200W. Your computer does not need to be using these power limits at all. I set my computer to 300W. Many BIOS versions have an unlimited setting that sets both power limits to the max, 4095W. No more power limit throttling. As long as your CPU temperature is staying under 100°C, you do not need to set a power limit.
Increasing the turbo power limits increases performance compared to the Intel recommended value of 65W. Kind of nice getting a free performance boost.
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...-9700-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-70-ghz.html
Run another log file with your updated settings.
When your computer is idle at the desktop with only ThrottleStop open, what does ThrottleStop report for average C0%? This measures how much stuff is running in the background. This should be under 1% when idle. If it is much higher, look in the Task Manager under the Details tab for anything running in the background that might not need to be running all of the time. Reducing useless background tasks can help improve overall performance.
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Well i didnt experience any game crashes yet so should be fine.
About the multiplier it constantly jumps around 43-45, should i just check the box and leave recommended min 8 max 47 or set it to min 45 max 47?~(edit: still only using 44 while gaming)
Yea increasing trubo power limit helped with the problem i had where my fps would drop to 60-70 and now im getting like stable 100 in the game i play so im very surprised and satisfied.
https://pastebin.com/ULJwEnVt here's the log after updating.
After turning off every background program i deemed to be unimportant C0% was around 1-2%
About the multiplier it constantly jumps around 43-45, should i just check the box and leave recommended min 8 max 47 or set it to min 45 max 47?~(edit: still only using 44 while gaming)
Yea increasing trubo power limit helped with the problem i had where my fps would drop to 60-70 and now im getting like stable 100 in the game i play so im very surprised and satisfied.
https://pastebin.com/ULJwEnVt here's the log after updating.
After turning off every background program i deemed to be unimportant C0% was around 1-2%
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uWebb429
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I would use the recommended values.
The real world difference between the 44 multiplier and the 45 multiplier is next to nothing. I am just curious why your CPU uses 44 instead of 45.
The 10th Gen CPUs used a feature called Thermal Velocity Boost. This feature reduces the CPU multiplier by 1 at a temperature of between 65°C and 70°C. Your CPU does not officially support this feature but dropping the turbo ratio by 1 looks very similar to what TVB does. Maybe there was a microcode update that added this feature to your 9th Gen CPU. Who knows.
In the FIVR window try clearing the Thermal Velocity Boost box and try clearing the V-Max Stress box. Clearing these boxes prevented the multiplier drop on the newer CPUs. If this does not unlock the 45 multiplier then I guess 44 is the max for your CPU when playing games.
Intel stopped publicly documenting what turbo ratios a CPU should use. This allowed Intel some flexibility. The maximum 47 multiplier was documented and guaranteed but none of the intermediate turbo ratios are publicly documented. In theory this allowed Intel to ship some 9700 CPUs with a 45 multiplier when all 8 cores are active and some might be limited to 44. When a specification is not documented, you can fudge things a little and no one will ever know.
Reliability should be exactly the same. The lower 65W power limit was mostly created for marketing purposes. Some of Intel's OEM customers like to sell low power computers that are environmentally friendly. The reality is that the 9700 and 9700K are basically identical. Intel just makes a few tweaks on the assembly line to target specific markets.
Most people assume that the non K CPUs are locked down. The multiplier is locked but Intel was nice enough to leave the turbo power limits unlocked. Your increase in FPS shows how big of a difference some extra power makes.
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