i7 OC issues

[sudec]

I have problems getting my i7 920 on more than 2.8GHz. I use the stock cooler which I know is not the best choice, but I do not have a lot of possibilities of getting a decent cooler.

Now my questions is, whether the problem can be somewhere else then with the cooler. I have the latest BIOS, chipset etc. When I OC the CPU to 2.8, it runs OK. Once I try to put it on 2.9 or 3.0 the system just won't start up. It turns on, sometimes gets through POST and then turns off. If I start it again right after it turns itself of, the system doesn't even get to the POST screen it just shuts down right away.

I can only suspect the cooler, but if you guys have any other tips, please post.

Thanks.

 

[sudec]

well I think 80-85 C is high enough to suspect the cooler. sometimes right after start up or after the CPU is idle for an hour it may get down to 75C but it is really rare.

 

[geofelt]

75c is way too hot. mine idles at 30 with a good cooler. I think you need to remount the cooler.

Push pin coolers can be tricky to install.
A bad installation can lead to higher temperatures, and even cpu throttling.
With the pc powered down, gently rock the cooler to see if it is on solid, or if it wobbles a bit.
Push pin coolers are best installed while the motherboard is outside of the case.
You need to be able to look at the back of the board to verify that
all 4 pins are completely through and locked.
Play with the pins on the cooler first, so you can see exactly how they work.
Read the instructions that came with your retail cpu.
When pushing down on the pins, do a diagonal pair first.
If you don't, it is hard to get the last pin in.
Don't forget to clean the parts and reapply fresh thermal compound every time.
Don't try to reuse the TIM.
Rubbing alcohol is OK as a cleaner.
I use a paper coffee filter to clean with because it is lint free.
Any name brand TIM should be OK(as-5, Mx-2, etc.)
When applying the TIM, don't use too much, because it can act as an insulator.
Don't apply too little, either, because it won't spread and fill the microscopic
imperfections in the surfaces. A dollop about the size of a grain
of rice should be about right.

 

[sudec]

Well reading this makes even more confident that the problem is with the cooler. The thing is that one of the pins cannot be installed correctly, because the inside of the pin which holds it the the MOBO is loose and does not hold it as it should.

 

[roadrunner197069]

Bump. You obviously installed the cooler wrong. I suspect installation error. You cant blame the cooler because you dont know how to mount it.

You need to remount, and that means cleaning off the thermal paste and applying new paste.

I run mine 3.6 on the stock cooler.

 

[roadrunner197069]

Like the other guy said, follow the directions, and most importantly the best way to mount pushpins is outside the case. If you do it inside the case the mobo flexes and the pin bottoms out on the tray before it goes in. I,ve done 100+ pushpin systems and never ever had one problem mounting them if done outside the case.

You also have to make sure all the pins are in the lock position, aka all turned clockwise. If its turned counter clockwise "unlocked position" it will never ever go in and stay in.

If you somehow broke the pin, your only option is to get a new cooler or yank all the pins out and make some home made bolts work. If you use bolts besure not to use washers or nuts that will short something out.

 

[leo2kp]

I agree here. You need to figure out how to set that pin correctly. Don't power it on until you do. If you need to buy a 3rd party cooler, then do it.

 

[sudec]

well, this is not the first system I have built and know how to mount the cooler. The thing is the inside of the pin was broken when I took it out of the box. Now for unknown reason I could return it as they said it couldn't be that way and I broke it so the warranty does not cover it. Also I have remounted the cooler 4 times already. Well anyway. I asked whether the problem can be with the cooler, but as I see it is useless to ask anything here since you just tell what I did wrong and no help at all.

 

[roadrunner197069]

You got your answer RETARD!!!!

You mounted it in the case, pushed to hard and broke 1 pin, and now you are screwed unless you are creative or you buy a new cooler and manage not to break it also.

The pins dont come broke in the box you idiot. You obviously tried to install it in the case and pushed to hard when you bottomed out on the mobo tray.

Obviously you dont know how to mount the cooler or we wouldnt be having this conversation.

the cooler needs all 4 pins locked not 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can mount it 100 times with 3 pins and you will never get it. Your so dumb, you will be lucky if you dont fry your new CPU.

 

[geofelt]

well, this is not the first system I have built and know how to mount the cooler. The thing is the inside of the pin was broken when I took it out of the box. Now for unknown reason I could return it as they said it couldn't be that way and I broke it so the warranty does not cover it. Also I have remounted the cooler 4 times already. Well anyway. I asked whether the problem can be with the cooler, but as I see it is useless to ask anything here since you just tell what I did wrong and no help at all.

Your oc problem is with the mounting of the cooler. Little doubt about that.
Find a way to fix the mount, or buy a new cooler, preferably one with a backplate mount.

 

[geofelt]

You got your answer RETARD!!!!

You mounted it in the case, pushed to hard and broke 1 pin, and now you are screwed unless you are creative or you buy a new cooler and manage not to break it also.

The pins dont come broke in the box you idiot. You obviously tried to install it in the case and pushed to hard when you bottomed out on the mobo tray.

Obviously you dont know how to mount the cooler or we wouldnt be having this conversation.

the cooler needs all 4 pins locked not 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can mount it 100 times with 3 pins and you will never get it. Your so dumb, you will be lucky if you dont fry your new CPU.

You can say this nicely.

 

[cah027]

Wow... !

Anywho..

I would definitely get an after market cooler to replace the broken one. Especially if you intend on OC'ing. I hear the stock ones are sub-par even with all of the pins.

No worries. It will all work out. Must be nice to have a nice new system. I will here in a few months probably.

Good luck

 

[sudec]

You got your answer RETARD!!!!


You mounted it in the case, pushed to hard and broke 1 pin, and now you are screwed unless you are creative or you buy a new cooler and manage not to break it also.


The pins dont come broke in the box you idiot. You obviously tried to install it in the case and pushed to hard when you bottomed out on the mobo tray.


Obviously you dont know how to mount the cooler or we wouldnt be having this conversation.


the cooler needs all 4 pins locked not 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You can mount it 100 times with 3 pins and you will never get it. Your so dumb, you will be lucky if you dont fry your new CPU.

Now who the hell you think you are? *******.

 

[sudec]

Wow... !

Anywho..

I would definitely get an after market cooler to replace the broken one. Especially if you intend on OC'ing. I hear the stock ones are sub-par even with all of the pins.

No worries. It will all work out. Must be nice to have a nice new system. I will here in a few months probably.

Good luck

Thanks

 

[cjl]

You got your answer RETARD!!!!

You mounted it in the case, pushed to hard and broke 1 pin, and now you are screwed unless you are creative or you buy a new cooler and manage not to break it also.

The pins dont come broke in the box you idiot. You obviously tried to install it in the case and pushed to hard when you bottomed out on the mobo tray.

Obviously you dont know how to mount the cooler or we wouldnt be having this conversation.

the cooler needs all 4 pins locked not 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can mount it 100 times with 3 pins and you will never get it. Your so dumb, you will be lucky if you dont fry your new CPU.

There are many nice ways to tell someone that they screwed up. This is not one of them.

 

[mighty442]

Sure it is, it's just not a nice way of saying it. But in Roadrunner's defense he did give the guy an answer.

 

[Liderc]

There is no defense for roadrunner, his attitude runs rampant on these forums and it's a poor one.

 

[Mugz]

A nicer way of putting it:

"I have been building PCs for x years/I have built x number of PCs and in my experience I have never had a broken push-pin out of the box. To be honest I have managed to inadvertently break several push-pins while installing because I was being an incompetent and installing the heatsink with the motherboard mounted inside the case."

Silliness/inexperience is no excuse for impoliteness. Sarcasm or irony, yes, but not impoliteness.

BTW, I built hundreds of pushpin-heatsinked P4/Core2 PCs over a 4 year period and never saw a broken push-pin out of the box. Just my experience, not saying it never happened/s...

 

[kazeus]

right. get that thing out and get yourself something else like for example:

http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/coolermaster.html

At first with stock cooler @ 3.6 on full load the 920 got up to 80C and thats full stress, pretty high for my taste..

With the v8 its about 20 degrees lower (just under 60) and only just above 20C when idle @3.6Ghz.

SO i suggest you get yourself a decent cooler and make sure you install it correctly. The manual is pretty misleading on the v8 as it shows you to install the thing upside down but you need to do it the opposite way shown on the pictures.

If you need any info just ask

 

[kazeus]

@ roadrunner197069
why so vile?
the guy clearly does not need any more grief..