I865 or IP4000 Which should I buy (Duplex Not An Issue, Ph..

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Mikey wrote:
> Any Help, please
>
> Mike
>
>


I don't have the iP4000 nor an i865. I have an iP5000 and
an i860 (same as the i865 minus CD printing capability).

I just printed scanned magazine images on both printers using high
quality plain (uncoated) paper, with the printers set to "High Quality".
The iP5000 blows away the i860 in both resolution and color rendition.
The i860's result is grainy, with skin tones that are a rather sickly
brown/green. The entire printout is drab, dull and lifeless. The
iP5000's skin tones are pink and the result is really quite stunning. I
keep looking at it in the light. I'm amazed, I've never had a printer
that could satisfactorily print photos on plain paper. It looks
identical to the high quality images we sometimes see in certain
newspapers and magazines that are printed on non glossy paper

Unfortunately I don't have an iP4000 to compare with my iP5000 for you.

-Taliesyn
 
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In article Mikey says...
> Any Help, please
>
> Mike
>
>
>
I don't think you'll find any real difference between these models.
What are your prices? In NZ the iP4000 was introduced at a lower price
than the i865 finished at.
 
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In article Taliesyn says...
> Mikey wrote:
> > Any Help, please
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
>
>
> I don't have the iP4000 nor an i865. I have an iP5000 and
> an i860 (same as the i865 minus CD printing capability).
>
> I just printed scanned magazine images on both printers using high
> quality plain (uncoated) paper, with the printers set to "High Quality".
> The iP5000 blows away the i860 in both resolution and color rendition.
> The i860's result is grainy, with skin tones that are a rather sickly
> brown/green. The entire printout is drab, dull and lifeless. The
> iP5000's skin tones are pink and the result is really quite stunning. I
> keep looking at it in the light. I'm amazed, I've never had a printer
> that could satisfactorily print photos on plain paper. It looks
> identical to the high quality images we sometimes see in certain
> newspapers and magazines that are printed on non glossy paper
>
> Unfortunately I don't have an iP4000 to compare with my iP5000 for you.
>
> -Taliesyn
>
What paper type were you setting the i860 to? I've just tried printing a
photo to plain copy paper on an i865 set for plain paper and it didn't
have any problem with grain or skin tone to the unaided eye but it still
doesn't match photo paper. If you are after photo quality some type of
coated paper is probably essential.
 
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colinco wrote:
> In article Taliesyn says...
>
>>Mikey wrote:
>>
>>>Any Help, please
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>I don't have the iP4000 nor an i865. I have an iP5000 and
>>an i860 (same as the i865 minus CD printing capability).
>>
>>I just printed scanned magazine images on both printers using high
>>quality plain (uncoated) paper, with the printers set to "High Quality".
>>The iP5000 blows away the i860 in both resolution and color rendition.
>>The i860's result is grainy, with skin tones that are a rather sickly
>>brown/green. The entire printout is drab, dull and lifeless. The
>>iP5000's skin tones are pink and the result is really quite stunning. I
>>keep looking at it in the light. I'm amazed, I've never had a printer
>>that could satisfactorily print photos on plain paper. It looks
>>identical to the high quality images we sometimes see in certain
>>newspapers and magazines that are printed on non glossy paper
>>
>>Unfortunately I don't have an iP4000 to compare with my iP5000 for you.
>>
>>-Taliesyn
>>
>
> What paper type were you setting the i860 to? I've just tried printing a
> photo to plain copy paper on an i865 set for plain paper and it didn't
> have any problem with grain or skin tone to the unaided eye but it still
> doesn't match photo paper. If you are after photo quality some type of
> coated paper is probably essential.

This was an intentional plain paper test comparing how the above
mentioned printers were able to handle plain paper photos. I do normally
print my photos on the "good stuff" - I got lots of it! I was just doing
a little test for the "Mikey" poster earlier.

Maybe my eyes are better for seeing graininess. You should see how they
compare under a magnifier: the difference is huge.

-Taliesyn
 
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In article Taliesyn says...
> Maybe my eyes are better for seeing graininess. You should see how they
> compare under a magnifier: the difference is huge.
>
>
Under a magnifer the i865 compares very well against offset printed
magazines.
 
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In article Tom Klimas says...
> I don't know about the iP4000, but the difference between the iP5000
> and its ancestor, the i860, is unbelievable. Results are not even
> close. The only place they match is in text printing, which any half
> working Lexmark can accomplish also without much sweat.
>
>
You are exagerating or your i860 has something wrong with it. The i860
shouldn't have lines or obvious grain ( without magnification). Some
people complain of banding with most Canon models, it may be the ink
carts as sometimes changing them cures it.
I understand that the iP5000 only kicks into highest resolution/1pl
small droplet set for Canon PPP paper and on Custom quality. If you
don't use those settings the output will be similar to iP4000 (or i860).
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