I'd like some advice on my build

Fortitude

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Here is my build:http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vR24Jx

First, thank you for reading this.
I have a few questions about this build.

What kind of gaming performance will I be looking at?
Is there anything in this build that can be replaced with something better for the same price?
Will this fit in a laptop by any chance without too much price increase?

Any and all help or suggestions are welcome, along with criticism, so long as it is constructive.
 
Solution
Fortitude,

The A10-7850K offers about the same gaming performance that you would get combining an Athlon 860K with a DDR3 edition R7 240/250. It can offer reasonable performance (FPS) but at low visual quality settings (best suited to 720P resolution, and modest texture quality settings with no post processing).

The GPU performance of an APU scales very good with memory speed and interleaving. Running an APU on 1333MT/s memory would bottleneck it's potential render performance significantly since it is using system memory as video memory. I would advise selecting a memory kit that is configured both dual rank and dual channel with a profiled speed of at least 2133MT/s for best results with a Kaveri based APU.

The key differences...
Looks ok , I am not a amd fan but when it comes to a low budget rig's I hear they are great .
only thing you are missing is a video card, that is very important . Go with a AMD card like a Radeon R7 260X
 
Here`s a better rig for you brother.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-HD3 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($55.18 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Zeus Blue 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.67 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($133.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $560.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-14 00:13 EST-0500
 
or this

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kPMrt6) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kPMrt6/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd4300wmhkbox) | $86.48 @ Amazon
**Motherboard** | [Biostar A960D+ Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/biostar-motherboard-a960d) | $36.99 @ SuperBiiz
**Memory** | [Team Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-ted38192m1333hc9dc) | $67.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-hua721010kla330) | $44.00 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r9270xgaming2gitx) | $133.98 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermaltake-case-vl80001w2z) | $21.99 @ Micro Center
**Power Supply** | [EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100w10500kr) | $29.99 @ NCIX US
**Optical Drive** | [Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/lite-on-optical-drive-ihas124-04) | $19.98 @ OutletPC
**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615) | $89.98 @ OutletPC
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $531.38
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-14 00:33 EST-0500 |

oh, and no you cant put any of these bits in a laptop....
 
I'm at the same stage you are, but with a somewhat different budget - the one thing that stands out to me is how much your case is running you. Finding something for $50 less shouldn't be a huge deal, and could be invested in improving in several other areas - some NE deals I saw within the last week could grab you a 120 GB SSD for $40 or less, added to the system would substantially increase your boot times.

Other than that, it looks like you've got a great budget selection from what I've looked into. Of course, I'm not one to judge if you are set on how that one looks =]
 

sorry, clicked best solution meant to reply... but It has an APU, which means I don't need the graphic card, right? is it not integrated into the processor?
 
Fortitude,

The A10-7850K offers about the same gaming performance that you would get combining an Athlon 860K with a DDR3 edition R7 240/250. It can offer reasonable performance (FPS) but at low visual quality settings (best suited to 720P resolution, and modest texture quality settings with no post processing).

The GPU performance of an APU scales very good with memory speed and interleaving. Running an APU on 1333MT/s memory would bottleneck it's potential render performance significantly since it is using system memory as video memory. I would advise selecting a memory kit that is configured both dual rank and dual channel with a profiled speed of at least 2133MT/s for best results with a Kaveri based APU.

The key differences between an A10-7850K and A10-7700K are the number of shaders in the iGPU and the stock clock speeds of the CPU. Ironically, these differences don't do much for gaming performance because most games are going to bottleneck pretty hard on the Render Output Units and VRAM Bandwidth of the APU, which are the same for both the 7700K and 7850K. The reason I bring this up is to point out where the peak value is for buying into an APU. With current pricing of the 7700K being 30% lower than the 7850K, I believe the 7700K offers the better value. Once we get to the price point of the 7850K, we could probably configure an 860K or Pentium with discrete GPU and get better results all around.

The 860K + GTX750Ti makes a wonderful low budget combination for gaming. Highly recommended. I actually advise the nvidia GPU over any AMD GPU for pairing with an AMD CPU because of the way that the nvidia driver and proprietary DX11 implementation are optimized. Alternatively, an i3-4130+R7 260X will produce similar results and have a similar implementation cost. Ironically, AMD's own implementation of DX11 is not as well optimized for their own CPUs as Nvidias implementation of DX11 is.

The FM2+ platform has some great quality boards under $100. I advise "splurging" the extra $20-30 and getting one of these nicely made A88X chipset boards.


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The A10-7850K has a GCN architecture GPU built in and uses system memory as VRAM. Render performance is comparable to an R7 240/250 with DDR3. Nothing special but can play most games at 720P at medium or lower settings pretty well.
 
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Yes brother it is integrated GPU and you don`t need to buy another GPU BUT the rig the I have suggested uses the same CPU (X4 860k) and the GPU is stronger than the integrated GPU of the A10 7850k. I personally own an A10 7850k but the integrated GPU is of no use. 🙁