Build Advice Ideas for a build?

[smartmantech47]

Hello guys, I'm planning for a build. I've been planning for a build for more than 7 months, picking out parts and swapping for better value parts, and as I gain knowledge about pc's I know what's good and what's not. Can you guys give me a build that costs 1000 bucks that's good?

 

[Lutfij]

Can you guys give me a build that costs 1000 bucks that's good?
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[smartmantech47]

I live in the UAE, currency is AED, and the max price in that currency is 4000 AED. You have amazon.ae, gccgamers.com, uaegamers.ae, and even amazon.com, but make that the last option.

 

[smartmantech47]

What are the best budget b550 mobo's?

 

[PCGamerlol]

Id reccomend:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
GIGABYTE B550
AMD XFX 5700 XT
Corsair Vengeance 3200Mhz (8x2)GB
SSDCrucial MX500 1TB (or a 512GB SSD and 1TB HDD)

May or may not be available in your country. :/

Edit: Please use "Newegg.com" for buying these products as they are often cheaper and in stock!

 

[geofelt]

What will this pc be primarily used for?
If it is for gaming, do you now own a decent graphics card?
What is your current list of parts?

 

[Why_Me]

[SOLVED] - Best systems between the two?

So, I have two systems I'm comparing. Can you give me the better system? First system: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NCYV9N Second system: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bBKydD Nevermind the prices, in my country I have everything at msrp. Just tell me what you think, and I'll post an intel...

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[g-unit1111]

Id reccomend:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
GIGABYTE B550
AMD XFX 5700 XT
Corsair Vengeance 3200Mhz (8x2)GB
SSDCrucial MX500 1TB (or a 512GB SSD and 1TB HDD)

May or may not be available in your country. :/

Edit: Please use "Newegg.com" for buying these products as they are often cheaper and in stock!

That would be a fine system except that GPUs are hard to come by right now, especially AMD GPUs.

 

[Karadjgne]

First and foremost is the gpu. Without doubt, it's going to be the largest purchase by a good margin, and the hardest to obtain. So that's what you need to concentrate on.

Get that first, if you can. Then see about building the pc around it, just remember to make sure to leave enough budget to do so. It's AMD, so you can cut a few corners on the motherboard, doesn't have to be the best, just don't cut any corners on the psu or you Will have issues.

I'd use the above build as a guide, it's well balanced and appropriate.

 

[geofelt]

I might suggest the i5-11400 as the cpu.
It is fully the performnce equivalent of a 3600.
Here is a review:

Intel Core i5-11400F Review: The New Value Champ

The Core i5-11400F coupled with a B560 motherboard make for an interesting build configuration, as it's significantly cheaper than the Core i5-11600K/Z590 and less than the cost...

www.techspot.com

The good thing is that the 11400 costs perhaps $20 more than the 11400F but it includes integrated graphics to get you started.

 

[smartmantech47]

gaming and work. The 1650 super is available in my country

 

[smartmantech47]

Nah I'm going amd. Not a fanboy but amd's has the edge in cpu security, architecture, performance, and productivity. Intel only wins by overclocking.

 

[smartmantech47]

and guys, idk what to buy, the b550 for pcie gen 4 or b450 for making my build as low priced as possible but sacrifice pcie gen 4. What do you think and can you recommend a budget board for both.

 

[Karadjgne]

Asus Tuff B450 plus is 500 AED.
Asus Tuff B550 plus is 595 AED.
MicroATX versions slightly cheaper.

Can't go wrong with either board, and if using a 1650 Super, and normal ssd/nvme, then pcie4.0 isn't going to make any difference whatsoever.

What might make a difference is connectivity. The B450 uses older versions of USB like 3.2 Gen1, the B550 is USB-C ready and compatible using USB 3.2 Gen2x2

 

[smartmantech47]

yea as long as I have usb 3 it won't matter

 

[PCGamerlol]

yea as long as I have usb 3 it won't matter

Go with B450 as you are not going to use any of B550 features
But,
If you want to upgrade your pc to like some Newer hardware, Its good to feature proof the build.

 

[PCGamerlol]

Nah I'm going amd. Not a fanboy but amd's has the edge in cpu security, architecture, performance, and productivity. Intel only wins by overclocking.

Check if AMD CPUs are available in your country, If not Go with intel 11th gen

 

[smartmantech47]

Amd is here in my country. I'm planning for a low cost build cuz in a year or two imma upgrade my mobo and ram for ddr5. 11th gen is a flop and the prices here are like 300 bucks lol

 

[smartmantech47]

Uhhh... is there something called too much wattage? Example: My build takes about 270 watts and a maximum of 350. Is it okay to use a 750w/850w for futureproofing?

 

[geofelt]

Uhhh... is there something called too much wattage? Example: My build takes about 270 watts and a maximum of 350. Is it okay to use a 750w/850w for futureproofing?

One of the few only things to buy in computers that can be called "future proof" might be the power supply.
What wattage you need is mainly determined by the graphics card that you might use.
Here is a handy chart:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
It shows 400w for 1650 super.

There is no problem in over provisioning a power supply.
It will only use the power demanded of it, regardless of the max capability.
The best efficiency will be in the middle third of it's range.
I would not worry much about a unit in the 650-850w range.
Of more importance is the quality of the psu,
Consider it as a long term investment, good for the next 10 years.
Look for a psu with a 7 to 10 year warranty.
Here is a tier chart that may be useful:

[EOL] PSU Tier List rev. 14.8

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.8 (END OF LIFE) Last Update: 27-07-2021 Legend : Gray - EoL/obsolete and/or otherwise not recommended for purchase. Green - small form-factor (gold and blue colors are disregarded due to scarcity of SFX PSUs) Gold - best units in the tier (includes requirements for blue ...

linustechtips.com

In two years, most of what you buy today will be outdated.
DDR5 is coming in perhaps 2 years.
Motherboards will also change as well as new processors from both intel and amd.

 

[smartmantech47]

The one I'm planning to buy is the seasonic gx 750/850, which is on tier A.

 

[geofelt]

The one I'm planning to buy is the seasonic gx 750/850, which is on tier A.

Good choice.

I may disagree with you on ryzen 3600.

Why buy an old gen processor when current intel 11th gen and ryzen 5000 processors perform so much better and support better i/o.
I know/I know... cheaper.

I spend a bunch of time on these forums and I see many more issues with ryzen than with intel.
Particularly in the area of ram issues.
"security, architecture, performance, and productivity"
are fluff terms without specifics that apply to you.

As to overclocking, it is no longer a way to get something for nothing.
Chips are binned today so there is minimal opportunity to gain via overclocking.
Modern processors implement turbo mechanism's in conjunction with windows to increase performance on a few cores when conditions permit and the app requires it.

 

[smartmantech47]

So what should I get, intel or amd? (5000 series are expensive and hard to get by). 11th gen is expensive in my country at 300$. Plus, what's better, this

Brand	Crucial
Digital storage capacity	1024 GB
Hardware interface	Solid State Drive
Reading speed	2400 MB
Writing speed	1800

or this

Brand	SABRENT
Digital Storage Capacity	1 TB
Hardware Interface	PCI Express x4
Read Speed	3200 Megabytes Per Second
Write Speed	2000
Compatible Devices	This drive is compatible with servers and arrays that accept M.2 2280 PCIe drives
Cache Size	1 TB

price is like 10 bucks apart, but the sabrent rocket is shiiped from america, while the crucial is from my country. So sabrent will be more likely impossible to get. Is there a big difference anyway?

 

[Karadjgne]

Yes, you actually can over-watt a pc. It's just rather difficult to achieve with better components.

Psus are normally rated with maximum outputs, but modern cpus are dealing with ultra minimum demands at sleep or idle or low loads.

For instance, your pc as stated has a load of @ 270w, so ideally your psu will be double or close. This puts your load around the 50%-70% range, which is not only the most efficient range for the psu, but also thermally the most comfortable.

While psus are able to drop much lower than that range, most are not tested, nor comfortable below 20% (ish) loads and keep any kind of efficiency. A good psu will maintain decent efficiency there, but it's quite easy have a junk psu go off the charts bad, getting 50% or lower efficiency.

So pairing a 1000w POS on a 270w load is ok, your efficiency is @ 90% so pulling 300w from the wall, but below that and just websurfing etc and light loads, at 50% load and 50% efficiency you are still pulling 300w (ish) from the wall. With a good 550w psu, you'd still be well into high efficiency range and that same 50% load would be closer to 150w from the wall.

Over provisioning is generally fine, if done in moderation or with intent, especially considering how long a good psu can last nowadays, just be realistic in expectations. A good 750w psu is more than enough for a 5800x +OC + a 3080 +OC and as much rainbow puke as you can cram into the case. Unless that 750w psu is at a bargain price and/or cheaper than a good 650w, will you realistically forsee having that sort of need/expense.

 

[smartmantech47]

also not gonna overclock