[SOLVED] Idle RAM usage at 90%

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mrhippo900

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CPU: Intel Core i7 8700k @ 4.8GHz (Cooled with Corsair H110i)
Motherboard: MSI Z390 Gaming Plus MPG
GPU: Gigabyte G1 Gaming GeForce GTX 1080 GP104 Pascal @2GHz
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw V Series 16GB 3200MHz DDR4
Hard Drive#1: Seagate FireCuda SSHD 2TB
Hard Drive#2: Western Digital Scorpio Black 320GB
Solid State Drive#3: Samsung 860 QVO 1TB SSD
Solid State Drive#4: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD
PSU: SeaSonic Focus Gold 650W

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Malwarebytes found no malware. I dont know whats going on. Any ideas?
 
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Colif
have you updated any drivers recently? it could be a memory leak if it grows over time with nothing seemingly using it.

Download Process explorer and run it as admin (it comes from Microsoft so its safe)

the default view is tree structure meaning like your task manager screen, it will show what processes are under each service, but unlike task manager, it shows the ram usage of each part so you can see what is eating your ram

Private bytes = actual ram usage
Working set = Ram + page file usage

This page shows what all the colours and headings mean, link at bottom of it shows how to use it to find problems. You can right click headers and run an av scan from within the program.

I checked motherboard out just to see if...
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have you updated any drivers recently? it could be a memory leak if it grows over time with nothing seemingly using it.

Download Process explorer and run it as admin (it comes from Microsoft so its safe)

the default view is tree structure meaning like your task manager screen, it will show what processes are under each service, but unlike task manager, it shows the ram usage of each part so you can see what is eating your ram

Private bytes = actual ram usage
Working set = Ram + page file usage

This page shows what all the colours and headings mean, link at bottom of it shows how to use it to find problems. You can right click headers and run an av scan from within the program.

I checked motherboard out just to see if you had Killer internet (do you have a wifi card?) as they are known causes of some memory leaks, but your board has Intel lan - so much for the easy answer.
 
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Colif said:
have you updated any drivers recently? it could be a memory leak if it grows over time with nothing seemingly using it.

Download Process explorer and run it as admin (it comes from Microsoft so its safe)

the default view is tree structure meaning like your task manager screen, it will show what processes are under each service, but unlike task manager, it shows the ram usage of each part so you can see what is eating your ram

Private bytes = actual ram usage
Working set = Ram + page file usage

This page shows what all the colours and headings mean, link at bottom of it shows how to use it to find problems. You can right click headers and run an av scan from within the program.

I checked motherboard out just to see if you had Killer internet (do you have a wifi card?) as they are known causes of some memory leaks, but your board has Intel lan - so much for the easy answer.
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I have updated windows recently like last week.

Also little update I stopped the update service manually. After about 5 minutes it went back down to 45% usage. This has happened before too where it was really high for no reason then goes back down. Something is continuously eating the ram up then stops.

What im going to do is leave it on overnight with nothing open. See if it goes up by a lot when it comes morning. Post the result then restart.
 
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Colif said:
what is usage like at idle after a restart with reset paused?

you could look in reliability history over the last week as it also shows any drivers installed by the store. windows itself is unlikely to be cause, but a driver could be.

Have you run an AV scan? Apart from malwarebytes. try https://www.bitdefender.com.au/solutions/free.html for a 2nd opinion.
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I left it overnight and it remains at 46%. Stopping the update service I think solved it but I'm still not sure why the service was using so much ram
 
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which version of win 10 are you running?
right click start
choose run...
type winver and press enter
current is 1909

update process shouldn't run that long. It does run more on weekends I find, but it just runs for about an hour most times, and then goes away. The second Monday of every month is when it grabs cumulative updates. The only update processes that take longer are version updates, can take a while to install (time based on connection speed and PC I guess)
 
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Colif said:
which version of win 10 are you running?
right click start
choose run...
type winver and press enter
current is 1909

update process shouldn't run that long. It does run more on weekends I find, but it just runs for about an hour most times, and then goes away. The second Monday of every month is when it grabs cumulative updates. The only update processes that take longer are version updates, can take a while to install (time based on connection speed and PC I guess)
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Windows 10 Pro Version 1909 Build 18363
 
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checks calendar.. its only March.

The 2004 code should mean Year (20) and Month of release (04) which should be April. Microsoft have been slipping last few years so last year 1903 was released in April.
They realised the date system was broken and renamed them as 19H1 & 19H2, so the next version update is 20H1 so I can stop complaining that version numbers made no sense :)

I find it unlikely MS would get ahead of themselves

KB4539080 was released to slow ring in Feb
Hello Windows Insiders, today we’re releasing 20H1 Build (KB4539080) to Windows Insiders in the Slow This Cumulative Update includes quality Key changes include: Security updates to Microsoft Edge, Internet Explorer, Windows App Platform and Frameworks, Microsoft Graphics Component
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https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/author/brandonleblanc/

its still getting out now as I see aa report from 3 hours ago, its on Slow ring.

As for the original question... have you tried running the windows update troubleshooter as it shouldn't be running constantly if you are on 18363.657 or similar. (troubleshooters are in settings/update & security/troubleshoot)

There is a bug with a current update which has led me to pause my updater for a week assuming Microsoft will fix it or pull that update before I get it. Perhaps pause the update in settings/update & security/Windows update.
 
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Colif said:
checks calendar.. its only March.

The 2004 code should mean Year (20) and Month of release (04) which should be April. Microsoft have been slipping last few years so last year 1903 was released in April.
They realised the date system was broken and renamed them as 19H1 & 19H2, so the next version update is 20H1 so I can stop complaining that version numbers made no sense :)

I find it unlikely MS would get ahead of themselves

KB4539080 was released to slow ring in Feb

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/author/brandonleblanc/

its still getting out now as I see aa report from 3 hours ago, its on Slow ring.

As for the original question... have you tried running the windows update troubleshooter as it shouldn't be running constantly if you are on 18363.657 or similar. (troubleshooters are in settings/update & security/troubleshoot)

There is a bug with a current update which has led me to pause my updater for a week assuming Microsoft will fix it or pull that update before I get it. Perhaps pause the update in settings/update & security/Windows update.
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Gonna see if that helps if it comes back after a restart.
 
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