Im baaack Building a system for my gf need some advice

Lowlyffe

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My gf wants a new rig as she recently decided she wanted to return to World of Warcraft. She was playing on a laptop with onboard graphics, which during large 25 person raids and running around main cities was a pain for her. She uses photoshop avidly, so that must be kept in mind. I'd also like to try not to "overbuild" for her needs as she needs to be a little more careful with her money, because of a impending familial obligation.
I chose the A10 because I thought it might be nice to have a serviceable GPU built in if god forbid her GPU ever crapped out on her. Please advise.

The parts I chose:
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CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Apevia X-Cruiser2 Pink ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: CoolMax 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHAS324-98 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $766.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-18 17:00 EST-0500)
 
That cpu is no good with that card, any cpu(intel) has on die gpu, the i5-3470 is a much better cpu, also put 2x4 GB dual channel ram instead of single channel and a better psu than the coolmax, also a 7870 ghz edition much more cheaper.
My advice :

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CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Apevia X-Cruiser2 Pink ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($41.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHAS324-98 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $768.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
 

butremor

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Haha wtf. I don't know what's your experience with videocards, but they don't crap out just like that. But i do like your contingency plan. :)
For me seems like a waste buying apu with gpu, least you can do is save some $ by getting 5700 or a8 5600k.
Also your build could do a few changes.
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A8-5600K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($97.26 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Apevia X-Cruiser2 Pink ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($41.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHAS324-98 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $738.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-18 17:29 EST-0500)
 

Lowlyffe

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What I mean by the built it GPU of the A10 is that it has an integrated 7670 which would be superior to Intel 3000/4000 I believe. Is there not a synergy between the Radeon card and A10 that would be advantageous?
 

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Yes, amd igpu is superior to intels.
If by synergy you mean crossfire, then max a10 can do is crossfire with radeon 6670.
 
Who puts an a8 with a 7870 ????
Get the intel cpu, it will bottleneck the card, those apu are worse than a old x4 965 BE, they're not meant for using with such cards, only for htpc and low gaming with the apu only.
For the love of god get an i5 + 7870.
The 7870 will last for years, you won't need the igpu of the A10 or A8...
Thank me latter.
 

Lowlyffe

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Ok thanks for the clarification on the "synergy" question.

@butremor Do you feel that A8 would be ample to run heavy photoshop work? (Also I had a GPU die on me once and the onboard GPU wasnt nearly usable for the 2 weeks I had to go without)

@djangoringo I chose the GHZ edition because of the built-in dual monitor support.

Thank you both for your help so far, giving me things to consider.
 

Lowlyffe

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Ah that benchmark comparison clears up a lot of questions. Thanks! I just had a thought. do you know if the motherboard you chose supports Crossfire set up?
And would either of these be a better alternative?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130581&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
 
That's not a good combo when it comes with a more expensive budget that he needs without the case he wants(pink case for girlfriend) and with gfx card and monitor goes above the budget, when he can have a much better cpu(i5-3470) and he wants at least an on die gpu if it fails or if it comes first than the gfx card(the FX-4300 doesn't have a igpu) and build.
The good thing of the combo is the ssd.