Question I'm experiencing micro-stuttering on a new PC with a GeForce RTX 4070 ?

[melekk94]

Hello everyone,

Recently I bought a new PC to actually get a worse gaming experience than I had before. I've been experiencing micro stutters in all games. I've been dealing with it for the past week or so and I've already tried so many different things that I don't now where to look anymore. I've done some benchmarks, monitoring, extended testing and I would like you to help me interpretate the data.

Spec:
Ryzen 7 5800X, 3.8 GHz, 32 MB, BOX (100-100000063WOF)
Fera 5 ARGB (EY3A007)
Dual GeForce RTX 4070 OC 12GB GDDR6X (DUAL-RTX4070-O12G)
IRDM PRO Deep Black, DDR4, 32 GB, 3600MHz, CL18 (IRP-K3600D4V64L18/32GDC)
ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING
NM620 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-E x4 Gen3 NVMe (LNM620X001T-RNNNG)
Polaris 650W (PPS-650FC)
MasterBox TD500 Mesh V2 (TD500V2-KGNN-S00)
Monitor: BenQ ZOWIE XL2546K, 1920 / 1080, 240HZ TN FullHD panel

What I've already tried:
- made sure power management is set to performance.
- tried reinstalling GPU drivers (using DDU), also tried older versions.
- tried turning on V-SYNC
- made sure my BIOS is up to date.
- tried turning on in BIOS Resize Bar
- tried setting manually RAM FCLK frequency to 1800MHz
- tried using VULKAN instead of DirectX
and probably a bunch of other things that I don't remember about right now.

Testing:
Using OCCT I tested:
3D Standard (1h):
CPU temps (min | average | max) - 34,21 | 68,81 | 71,55
GPU temps - 34,28, 63,8, 64,40
NO ERRORS DETECTED

CPU (Data set: large, mode: extreme, load type: variable, 1h)
CPU temps - 34,21 | 88,7 | 89,97
NO ERRORS DETECTED

POWER(Mode: auto, 1h)
CPU temps - 34,21 | 89,8 | 90,05
GPU temps - 34,28, 64,71, 65,04
NO ERRORS DETECTED

Monitoring:
For monitoring I used MSI Afterburner while playing GPU average temps is ~43, CPU ~72 with no significant spikes. Today I experienced a major stutter which usually doesn't happen (happens in only 1 game shortly after starting playing) and it looks very interesting on the charts - GPU usage suddenly dropped one for a second from ~50% to 18% this is how it looks like: https://ibb.co/SdDjJNW

Can you guys think of potential fixes that I haven't tried yet? Do you see anything in the data? Can you suggest further actions?
I appreciate every effort and would like to thank you for it in advance.

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Polaris 650W (PPS-650FC)
How old is the PSU in your build? If this is a brand new unit, I'd have gotten something with 100W more power off the PSU to have as headroom

ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING
+
made sure my BIOS is up to date
BIOS version?

Make and model of your panel? What sort of resolution and frequency are you working off of?

 

[melekk94]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Polaris 650W (PPS-650FC)
How old is the PSU in your build? If this is a brand new unit, I'd have gotten something with 100W more power off the PSU to have as headroom

ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING
+
made sure my BIOS is up to date
BIOS version?

Make and model of your panel? What sort of resolution and frequency are you working off of?

PSU is a brand new one.
BIOS: American Megatrends International, LLC. 1.B0, 11.08.2022
It's a TN FullHD panel, the monitor that I'm using is BenQ ZOWIE XL2546K, 1920 / 1080, 240HZ

EDIT: I ought to add that I've first noticed these stutters afer moving to this monitor.

 

[melekk94]

I'm about to order a new PSU, should I do any additional testing before I do it? If not which one would you recommend?

 

[Wuwu]

The 5800X will struggle to feed high frames to a 240hz panel in games that are processor demanding, you will need the x3D to maintain much more stable frame rates and frame times.

You are asking a lot of the 4070 also, it's not going to do well at 240hz even at 1080P.

 

[melekk94]

The 5800X will struggle to feed high frames to a 240hz panel in games that are processor demanding, you will need the x3D to maintain much more stable frame rates and frame times.

You are asking a lot of the 4070 also, it's not going to do well at 240hz even at 1080P.

I'm talking about CS2 1280x960 almost everything set to low and KovaaK's (minimalistic aim trainer) there is no way its too much. Average FPS are great its about the spikes I for some reason experience and probably shouldn't.

EDIT: When I try to run them on 144hz problem still exists.

 

[melekk94]

I did additional testing in KovaaK's today (white wall, 2 red dots - there is no way this PC is not capable of running it smoothly)

Charts LIVE are looking okay but:

• Average framerate : 300.0 FPS
• Minimum framerate : 299.3 FPS
• Maximum framerate : 300.5 FPS
• 1% low framerate : 249.8 FPS
• 0.1% low framerate : 207.5 FPS

0.1% low is below 240fps which if I understand things correctly equals statter.

 

[Wuwu]

I will assume you are on Windows 11?

Tried optimizing it?

 

[melekk94]

I will assume you are on Windows 11?

Tried optimizing it?

Yes I tried. CPU/GPU usage when playing is at ~50% so its probably not related to overload.

Additional benchmarks:

09-11-2023, 12:02:06 FPSAimTrainer-Win64-Shipping.exe benchmark completed, 17575 frames rendered in 59.468 s

• Average framerate : 295.5 FPS
• Minimum framerate : 2.7 FPS
• Maximum framerate : 300.0 FPS
• 1% low framerate : 32.2 FPS
• 0.1% low framerate : 2.7 FPS

09-11-2023, 12:10:25 cs2.exe benchmark completed, 7129 frames rendered in 24.125 s

• Average framerate : 295.5 FPS
• Minimum framerate : 98.8 FPS
• Maximum framerate : 300.0 FPS
• 1% low framerate : 189.2 FPS
• 0.1% low framerate : 101.7 FPS

09-11-2023, 12:30:27 FPSAimTrainer-Win64-Shipping.exe benchmark completed, 13141 frames rendered in 55.125 s

• Average framerate : 238.3 FPS
• Minimum framerate : 6.4 FPS
• Maximum framerate : 240.0 FPS
• 1% low framerate : 214.0 FPS
• 0.1% low framerate : 6.4 FPS

 

[Wuwu]

Simply put, that's all you are gonna get, unless a new Nvidia driver releases with better performance or CS2 gets updated again.

I used to run a 5800X the x3D version is just better in maintaining stable frame rates, it's the truth.

CS2 runs at 500 FPS almost everywhere for me.

And looks like this.. since this is my gameplay.

I named the video how it is because the same issue has been spoken about on the Steam forums also. This was when CS2 went public.

For now CS2 stutters a lot, but not for x3D users.. mostly.

As a last resort try updating the chipset drivers?

https://www.amd.com/en/support

 

[KILLQ]

Hello everyone,

Recently I bought a new PC to actually get a worse gaming experience than I had before. I've been experiencing micro stutters in all games. I've been dealing with it for the past week or so and I've already tried so many different things that I don't now where to look anymore. I've done some benchmarks, monitoring, extended testing and I would like you to help me interpretate the data.

Spec:
Ryzen 7 5800X, 3.8 GHz, 32 MB, BOX (100-100000063WOF)
Fera 5 ARGB (EY3A007)
Dual GeForce RTX 4070 OC 12GB GDDR6X (DUAL-RTX4070-O12G)
IRDM PRO Deep Black, DDR4, 32 GB, 3600MHz, CL18 (IRP-K3600D4V64L18/32GDC)
ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING
NM620 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-E x4 Gen3 NVMe (LNM620X001T-RNNNG)
Polaris 650W (PPS-650FC)
MasterBox TD500 Mesh V2 (TD500V2-KGNN-S00)
Monitor: BenQ ZOWIE XL2546K, 1920 / 1080, 240HZ TN FullHD panel

What I've already tried:
- made sure power management is set to performance.
- tried reinstalling GPU drivers (using DDU), also tried older versions.
- tried turning on V-SYNC
- made sure my BIOS is up to date.
- tried turning on in BIOS Resize Bar
- tried setting manually RAM FCLK frequency to 1800MHz
- tried using VULKAN instead of DirectX
and probably a bunch of other things that I don't remember about right now.

Testing:
Using OCCT I tested:
3D Standard (1h):
CPU temps (min | average | max) - 34,21 | 68,81 | 71,55
GPU temps - 34,28, 63,8, 64,40
NO ERRORS DETECTED

CPU (Data set: large, mode: extreme, load type: variable, 1h)
CPU temps - 34,21 | 88,7 | 89,97
NO ERRORS DETECTED

POWER(Mode: auto, 1h)
CPU temps - 34,21 | 89,8 | 90,05
GPU temps - 34,28, 64,71, 65,04
NO ERRORS DETECTED

Monitoring:
For monitoring I used MSI Afterburner while playing GPU average temps is ~43, CPU ~72 with no significant spikes. Today I experienced a major stutter which usually doesn't happen (happens in only 1 game shortly after starting playing) and it looks very interesting on the charts - GPU usage suddenly dropped one for a second from ~50% to 18% this is how it looks like: https://ibb.co/SdDjJNW

Can you guys think of potential fixes that I haven't tried yet? Do you see anything in the data? Can you suggest further actions?
I appreciate every effort and would like to thank you for it in advance.

hey, did u find a fix after?