Build Advice I'm looking for feedback for a new build ?

[rism]

Hi there, I recently decided to build a new gaming PC it's been a couple of years since I had one so I'm completely out for the market regarding components. Yesterday with the help of the community I completely changed my parts list so here is the updated one.

These are my current picks for parts:

CASE: Corsair 4000D Airflow | 90€
CPU: AMD Processore Ryzen 5 7600 | 220€
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 | 40€
MOTHERBOARD: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX | 200€
GPU: XFX Speedster MERC 319 Black Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB | 560€
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 32 GB | 125€
STORAGE: Crucial P3 2TB M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe 2TB | 120€
PSU: Corsair RM750e (2023) | 100€

Partspicker: https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/kNH428

Any thoughts?
I'm looking to have a long lasting build that will be able to handle basic games such as CS2 / FN / GTA V / Soon GTA VI at good and stable FPS. Mostly for competitive use in CS and FN + Streaming.

These are my original picks for parts:
CASE: NZXT H5 Flow | 109€
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | 160€
CPU Cooler: DeepCool ASSASSIN IV | 90€
MOTHERBOARD: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING WIFI II ATX AM4 | 170€
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Founders Edition | 350€ (Used of eBay)
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro Series 32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16 | 90€
STORAGE: SAMSUNG Memorie MZ-V9P2T0C 990 PRO SSD 2TB | 200€
PSU: Corsair RM750x (2021) | 150€

Thanks for your help!

 

[Why_Me]

What country are you located and what is your resolution.

 

[punkncat]

At this point, I would consider going AM5, even if you make concessions on the CPU pick. This will leave a nice update path over the next couple of years. AM4 is a great bargain right now, but nowhere to go for an update path at this point. Intel is the same way, currently, although they have not offered the long update path that AMD did...at least until 12th-14th gen.

 

[turtletarget111]

First and foremost, your motherboard should not cost more than your CPU. That cash should be going to the component that will boost performance, not the other way around. Get a cheaper motherboard and use that extra 50 bucks for a higher tier CPU or GPU, depending on what you plan to do with your system. You mentioned you will spend your time primarily gaming, so spend those savings on a better video card.

As far as buying used parts, I personally draw the line with individual PC components. People will tell you that it is safe most of the time, as long as you take some precautions, which is correct; I'm no stranger to buying certain used items. But for me, I don't mind spending a little more for brand new hardware with warranty support. Especially with enthusiast products, I've seen people taking apart things they clearly had no business disassembling, only to find parts missing, put back incorrectly, or other headaches like stripped screws.

Samsung SSDs are competitively priced with other high end SSDs. Going with something lower would mean a tradeoff of performance or reliability. I would spend the extra money and stick with Samsung.

I would not recommend you go with your choice of the 3070 Ti, even ignoring the used aspect of it. You will get significantly more performance at a better price with an AMD GPU. Not to mention the vastly increased video memory will give you much more overhead for future game releases. You would be much better off buying something like the 6800XT.

Additionally, upgrading to AM5 is not much more expensive nowadays than AM4 when building a system from scratch. Even if it means getting slightly lower tier hardware today, you will reap the benefits of a current generation platform in the future. That's not necessarily a concern at your budget, but it is worth keeping in mind.

I went ahead and threw together a build on a modern AM5 system and employed the recommendations I made at the beginning of my post. It fits the budget with more powerful and newer hardware, which will give you an upgrade path for future tweaks you make to your system.

I went with the 7600X for a modest gaming CPU, a faster graphics card, improved power supply, and threw in a mechanical drive for extra storage capacity. The full build list is linked here for your reference.

 

[rism]

What country are you located and what is your resolution.

Italy and res is 1080p mostly

 

[helper800]

Personally this is how I would do it:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€265.80 @ Alternate Italia)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€39.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (€182.44 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (€130.15 @ Amazon Italia)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€149.38 @ Amazon Italia)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Video Card (€350.00)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.80 @ Amazon Italia)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€99.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €1297.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-13 18:38 CET+0100

 

[Why_Me]

Personally this is how I would do it:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€265.80 @ Alternate Italia)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€39.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (€182.44 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (€130.15 @ Amazon Italia)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€149.38 @ Amazon Italia)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Video Card (€350.00)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.80 @ Amazon Italia)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€99.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €1297.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-13 18:38 CET+0100

Pretty much what I was about to post but with a few changes. Add this fan down below to the back of that case.

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€180.45 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€120.36 @ Amazon Italia)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (€10.49 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €311.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-13 18:44 CET+0100

 

[rism]

Personally this is how I would do it:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€265.80 @ Alternate Italia)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€39.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (€182.44 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (€130.15 @ Amazon Italia)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€149.38 @ Amazon Italia)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8 GB Video Card (€350.00)
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.80 @ Amazon Italia)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€99.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €1297.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-13 18:38 CET+0100

What if I go with a Motherboard without wifi to cut some cost on that part? Then I can maybe get a new GPU directly of amazon?
Some people on reddit suggested SAPPHIRE 16GB but it's 800€ here instead of 450€
Also as case what about corsair 400D airflow? Like I prefer the pc looking minimal nothing fancy RGB, fractal case is fine but cost the same almost so I'm leaning towards corsair as it has 1 USB C port what do you say?

Also thanks a lot for the help everyone really appreciate it

 

[rism]

Pretty much what I was about to post but with a few changes. Add this fan down below to the back of that case.

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (€180.45 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€120.36 @ Amazon Italia)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (€10.49 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €311.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-13 18:44 CET+0100

Isn't the ram the same? Just one white and one black or is there a difference?

 

[Why_Me]

What if I go with a Motherboard without wifi to cut some cost on that part? Then I can maybe get a new GPU directly of amazon?
Some people on reddit suggested SAPPHIRE 16GB but it's 800€ here instead of 450€
Also as case what about corsair 400D airflow? Like I prefer the pc looking minimal nothing fancy RGB, fractal case is fine but cost the same almost so I'm leaning towards corsair as it has 1 USB C port what do you say?

Also thanks a lot for the help everyone really appreciate it

@helper800 may know more about this chipset but I see a lot of them selling on the Asian market and they look to be priced well enough.

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#s=41&c=165

 

[Why_Me]

Isn't the ram the same? Just one white and one black or is there a difference?

The set I linked is DDR 6000 CL30.

 

[helper800]

@helper800 may know more about this chipset but I see a lot of them selling on the Asian market and they look to be priced well enough.

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#s=41&c=165

It's a good enough motherboard for his purposes if that is what you meant. The other cheaper motherboards in your region are either much worse or comparable but missing a feature for a similar cost. There is not a cheaper board I would recommend. The 4000D case is also a good case, but its a bit bigger physically, up to you.

 

[rism]

This is the new part list can you please check and let me know what you think about it:

It's a good enough motherboard for his purposes if that is what you meant. The other cheaper motherboards in your region are either much worse or comparable but missing a feature for a similar cost. There is not a cheaper board I would recommend. The 4000D case is also a good case, but its a bit bigger physically, up to you.

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/kNH428

 

[helper800]

This is the new part list can you please check and let me know what you think about it:


https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/kNH428

This would be a better alternative graphics card:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€265.80 @ Alternate Italia)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€38.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (€186.26 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€120.36 @ Amazon Italia)
Storage: Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€116.40 @ Amazon Italia)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card (€429.00 @ Amazon Italia)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (€98.10 @ Amazon Italia)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€99.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €1354.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-13 23:53 CET+0100

 

[Lucky_SLS]

I would get this mobo instead as it supports pcie 5.0 M.2

Good to have in the long run.

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product...atx-am5-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b650-plus-wifi

 

[rism]

This would be a better alternative graphics card:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor (€265.80 @ Alternate Italia)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€38.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard (€186.26 @ Amazon Italia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€120.36 @ Amazon Italia)
Storage: Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€116.40 @ Amazon Italia)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card (€429.00 @ Amazon Italia)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (€98.10 @ Amazon Italia)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€99.90 @ Amazon Italia)
Total: €1354.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-02-13 23:53 CET+0100

What about: XFX Speedster MERC 319 Core Edition AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 Go GDDR6
it's 50€ more compare to the one I just ordered and has 3 DP port which is most important for me. Would you suggest that over the RX 6800?

Also what kind of brand is XFX never heard about it before is it new upcoming?

 

[helper800]

What about: XFX Speedster MERC 319 Core Edition AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 Go GDDR6
it's 50€ more compare to the one I just ordered and has 3 DP port which is most important for me. Would you suggest that over the RX 6800?

Also what kind of brand is XFX never heard about it before is it new upcoming?

The 7800 XT is a better card but they are much more expensive than the RX 6800. XFX has been an AIB for at least 12 years as far as I know and have great warranty support. If you can find a 7800 XT for only 50 more than the 6800 I linked, go for it.

I would get this mobo instead as it supports pcie 5.0 M.2

Good to have in the long run.

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product...atx-am5-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b650-plus-wifi

Its really odd to me that the Gigabyte support page for that B650 Eagle motherboard I linked showed that the x16 slot was PCIe 5.0, but if you then read the documentation it shows that its only 4.0... I specifically checked for this when looking at the board...

 

[Lucky_SLS]

The top x16 slot should be pcie 5.0 for all B650.

Some B650 have the top M.2 x4 slot in 5.0 mode as well...

 

[helper800]

The top x16 slot should be pcie 5.0 for all B650.

Some B650 have the top M.2 x4 slot in 5.0 mode as well...

Check the support page manual, it literally says its a PCIe 4.0 x16 slot. I could have missed it, but i did not see 5.0 mentioned in the entire manual. With this motherboard, your second line seems to be the case. The top m.2 slot is x4 5.0 but the top PCIe x16 slot is only 4.0. The funny thing is that on the overview page for the motherboard it say the top slot is PCIe 5.0 with an asterisk but then never makes reference to that asterisk.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650-EAGLE-AX/support#support-manual

 

[ilukey77]

Check the support page manual, it literally says its a PCIe 4.0 x16 slot. I could have missed it, but i did not see 5.0 mentioned in the entire manual. With this motherboard, your second line seems to be the case. The top m.2 slot is x4 5.0 but the top PCIe x16 slot is only 4.0. The funny thing is that on the overview page for the motherboard it say the top slot is PCIe 5.0 with an asterisk but then never makes reference to that asterisk.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650-EAGLE-AX/support#support-manual

to my understanding the GPU slot is pcie x16 gen 4 ..
but there is 3 m.2 slots 2 being 4.0 and 1 being 5.0..
Its actually a really shifty way of telling you exactly what it has as if to confuse the consumer ..

there is not definitive the PCIEx16 slot is 5.0 and the m.2 is 4.0 or what ever !!

 

[ilukey77]

while Pcie x16 5,0 is not really needed 5.0 will be fine and ive seen people saying a few times even pcie x16 gen 4 is over kill even for modern GPU's .

At some point pcie x16 5,0 will be here and needed so for life span getting the gen 5 x16 will be a better option ..
I think by default all x670e boards have x16 gen 5 but the b650's are a bit of hit and miss even more so with the itx b650e's

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ true. But it's still strange that the B650 is using pcie 4.0 for the primary X16 slot.

But yes, it won't make a difference to the performance even with a 4090...

 

[rism]

Since I ordered the gen5 7600 cpu I saw the 7600X costs the same and has a higher base clock speed should I change my order and the get X series? From what I saw in the tech reviews the performance is the same on both chips

 

[ilukey77]

Since I ordered the gen5 7600 cpu I saw the 7600X costs the same and has a higher base clock speed should I change my order and the get X series? From what I saw in the tech reviews the performance is the same on both chips

What is you end game so what are you looking at upgrading to later..
If you have the 9000 series x3d or something in mind later then the 7600 is much easier to cool and being cheap no big need to go the 7600x..

 

[helper800]

Since I ordered the gen5 7600 cpu I saw the 7600X costs the same and has a higher base clock speed should I change my order and the get X series? From what I saw in the tech reviews the performance is the same on both chips

Up to you. You may see some marginal performance improvements in the 5-10% range.