Question I'm only getting 22k for an i7-13700KF in Cinebench r23 ?

[steedsofwar]

System is built using

Mobo: MSI z970 gaming pro WiFi
CPU: 13th gen 13700KF
Cooler: Thermaltake frost spirit 140 v3
RAM: 32GB GSKILL DDR5 6000mhz cl36
GPU: MSI RTX 3060
PSU: Corsair RM1000e
Case: NZXT H5

Title is self explanatory. Most people are getting 30k, others 29k. Dunno why I can't get anywhere near it! 22k is a big difference.

Temps reach maximum of 78-79C but mostly hovering on 76C as average.

Does anyone have any idea what's up? There are no overclocks. All stock settings. Fans have been tweaked to keep the temps low but noisy. XMP applied on RAM from BIOS. That's it.

Any help is appreciated.


Regards.

EDIT: BIOS is up to date. I just ran the bench after a reboot and this time I got 28k+ but temps were sitting at 97C! Some people say this is normal but I am not convinced. Is this true? I haven't bought a new CPU in a few years. I always thought intel chips were less power hungry and ran cooler than AMD.

 

[helpstar]

BIOS is up to date?

wait some minutes after restarting windows before running the bench

 

[steedsofwar]

BIOS is up to date?

wait some minutes after restarting windows before running the bench

Sorry I should've stated that it is up to date, yes. What other info did I miss such as this? Feel free to fire at will. Thanks for the response.

 

[steedsofwar]

I just ran the bench after a reboot and this time I got 28k+ but temps were sitting at 97C! I didn't change nothing. It was stuck at 22k for multiple runs. But suddenly boom, 28k+. SMH

Some people say this temp is normal but I am not convinced. Is this true? I haven't bought a new CPU in a few years. I always thought intel chips were less power hungry and ran cooler than AMD.

https://imgur.com/a/W6cPIJd

View: https://imgur.com/a/W6cPIJd


See the two orange highlights.

 

[steedsofwar]

BIOS is up to date?

wait some minutes after restarting windows before running the bench

Yes good suggestion. I tried this too. I ran this test the next day too. After idling a while. Browsing etc.

 

[Unolocogringo]

I just ran the bench after a reboot and this time I got 28k+ but temps were sitting at 97C! I didn't change nothing. It was stuck at 22k for multiple runs. But suddenly boom, 28k+. SMH

Some people say this temp is normal but I am not convinced. Is this true? I haven't bought a new CPU in a few years. I always thought intel chips were less power hungry and ran cooler than AMD.

https://imgur.com/a/W6cPIJd

View: https://imgur.com/a/W6cPIJd


See the two orange highlights.

Both chips run "hot" AMD and Intel. This is by design to boost to the max "your" system can achieve.
Better cooling equals better performance.
But AMD chips use way less power for the same performance.
The tides have turned, AMD is now the performance/watt leader.

 

[steedsofwar]

Both chips run "hot" AMD and Intel. This is by design to boost to the max "your" system can achieve.
Better cooling equals better performance.
But AMD chips use way less power for the same performance.
The tides have turned, AMD is now the performance/watt leader.

I see! So considering I'm using an air cooler, is this temp in Cinebench r23 correct? Or are people getting much lower? Thanks in advance.

 

[Unolocogringo]

For "your" computer you are about where you should be.
Your chip will boost higher to a limit and for longer if it has better cooling, but not by much more than what you already have.
Your CPU will try to run as fast as it can for as long as it can, as long as it does not reach a thermal/power or preset mhz limit.
Once you hit one of the limits the chip will throttle to keep all parameters within spec.
You are not thermal limited so you are reaching one of its other limits.
78-79c is very good for your chip under full load.

 

[steedsofwar]

For "your" computer you are about where you should be.
Your chip will boost higher to a limit and for longer if it has better cooling, but not by much more than what you already have.
Your CPU will try to run as fast as it can for as long as it can, as long as it does not reach a thermal/power or preset mhz limit.
Once you hit one of the limits the chip will throttle to keep all parameters within spec.
You are not thermal limited so you are reaching one of its other limits.
78-79c is very good for your chip under full load.

Thanks for explaining that. The temps were great. The score wasn't so good. But after a reboot, somehow for some reason, the temps are much higher and so is the score. The score is now where it should be. But 100C is crazy high. I attached a image above to show the two results in orange on the left side of the screenshot.

 

[Unolocogringo]

I know 100c is very hot in our opinion but that is what they designed the chips to do.
Boost until it reaches 100c. Then stabilize and stay at 100c. The better the cooler the higher the stabilized clock speed will be.

 

[steedsofwar]

I know 100c is very hot in our opinion but that is what they designed the chips to do.
Boost until it reaches 100c. Then stabilize and stay at 100c. The better the cooler the higher the stabilized clock speed will be.

I just needed that reassurance from people who know. Thanks for that.

I've now undervolted the chip and it gave me 29k+ at a stabilised temp of 85C!

 

[bill001g]

Pretty much a 13700k will either thermal limit or power limit. If you set the p1/p2 to unlimited it tends to always thermal limit.
It really doesn't matter a lot cinebench does not represent the workload most people run. You seldom see all cores running at maximum usage.
It is more to see if your cooling system is properly optimized. The more important number for many people will be the single core number. You might try to change the multiplier just for the 2 "good" core and see if it will run without crashing.

A 13700k is a massive power hog compared to amd when you look at gaming. Gamers nexus has a fairly recent video about power usage when gaming.