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I'm trying to make a Zeal/Fanat Pally with a big bad 2 handed Axe.

I've been given an Ethereal Glorious Axe, I used the socket recipe to get
some sockets, and it came up with 4. w00000t! That's what I was hoping
for, so you're thinking all is well, right?


Wrong.

Trying to make an Oath Axe:
Indestructible
50% IAS
210-340% ED
PMH
These are the important mods, of course.
But, do I have any chance at all at getting a Pul rune out of this game?
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
SvH helped me get 2 of my characters to the Hell Forge. Both of these guy's
got an Io. Bleh. I've done at least 150 NM/Hell Countess runs, highest
runes have been one each Ko/Hel/Dol/Io.
I've cubed up to Ko, and Dols and Lum.

However, last night SvH gave me a Trang's Belt, so I'll try and trade that
for a Pul.

An Ethereal Glorious has what, 90-186 damage I think.
If I can even get 300% ED, I'll be swinging something really hurtful, I
think.
360-744. Wooohoooooo!

Add in a lvl 20 Fanat, and I've already got it at 6 frames too!


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On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:06:06 -0500, short wrote:

> I'm trying to make a Zeal/Fanat Pally with a big bad 2 handed Axe.
>
> I've been given an Ethereal Glorious Axe, I used the socket recipe to get
> some sockets, and it came up with 4. w00000t! That's what I was hoping
> for, so you're thinking all is well, right?

It sounds good so far.
> Wrong.
>
> Trying to make an Oath Axe:
> Indestructible
> 50% IAS
> 210-340% ED
> PMH
> These are the important mods, of course.
> But, do I have any chance at all at getting a Pul rune out of this game?
> Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

These days Pul trades as currency with value of 40 PGem.
Lem has value 20 PGem. Lum, Ko, Fal about 10 PGem.
The low runes that are commonly used in crafting recipes
have value about 1 PGem. Junk jewels can also be traded
with value about 1 PGem. though its easier to trade PGems
than low runes or jewels. Sometimes people
count PAmethyst as 2 because they are popular now. If you cube up
flawless gems and the untradeable runes on your mules you get to Pul
pretty quickly.


> SvH helped me get 2 of my characters to the Hell Forge. Both of these guy's
> got an Io. Bleh. I've done at least 150 NM/Hell Countess runs, highest
> runes have been one each Ko/Hel/Dol/Io.
> I've cubed up to Ko, and Dols and Lum.

Ko and Lum by themselves is half a Pul.

> However, last night SvH gave me a Trang's Belt, so I'll try and trade that
> for a Pul.

I think you could get a Lem for it which is the other half of you Pul.
 

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Sliver wrote:
> > However, last night SvH gave me a Trang's Belt, so I'll try and
trade that
> > for a Pul.

Selling items are incredibly hard, because channel is usually filled
with bots that direct only whispers directed at them to the bot owners.

> In that case get 40 pgems and make a game "40pgem4Pul" You should get
a bite
> in no time at all and there will be your Pul. Considering how easy it
is to
> get the gems this is the way I always get my puls. (but I don't trust
anyone
> so I use them for upgrades LOL) Alternately you can trade the 40 gems
for 3
> Lems and cube the Pul up yourself guarenteeing that is isn't a dupe.
GL!

I doubt people dupe Pul, or runes lower than Gul for that matter.
Lem trades for 20 pgems, so 2 Lem = 40 pgems, not 3. If you (or anyone
in USWest SCL) want to trade 80 pgems, I usually have an Um for them.
When I have a Pul, I will also take 40 pgems (that include skulls,
every type is the same to me). While at it, any USWest SCL players
looking for Tal ammy? I just realized I have way too many and will
sell to you for 20 pgems each - part of my "Operation Wealth Recovery",
as Jabber called it :)

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> Here I Stand.
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"short" <shorts@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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> I'm trying to make a Zeal/Fanat Pally with a big bad 2 handed Axe.
>
> I've been given an Ethereal Glorious Axe, I used the socket recipe to get
> some sockets, and it came up with 4. w00000t! That's what I was hoping
> for, so you're thinking all is well, right?
>
>
> Wrong.
>
> Trying to make an Oath Axe:
> Indestructible
> 50% IAS
> 210-340% ED
> PMH
> These are the important mods, of course.
> But, do I have any chance at all at getting a Pul rune out of this game?
> Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
> SvH helped me get 2 of my characters to the Hell Forge. Both of these
> guy's
> got an Io. Bleh. I've done at least 150 NM/Hell Countess runs, highest
> runes have been one each Ko/Hel/Dol/Io.
> I've cubed up to Ko, and Dols and Lum.
>
> However, last night SvH gave me a Trang's Belt, so I'll try and trade that
> for a Pul.
>
> An Ethereal Glorious has what, 90-186 damage I think.
> If I can even get 300% ED, I'll be swinging something really hurtful, I
> think.
> 360-744. Wooohoooooo!
>
> Add in a lvl 20 Fanat, and I've already got it at 6 frames too!
>
>
> short- I can't wait

In that case get 40 pgems and make a game "40pgem4Pul" You should get a bite
in no time at all and there will be your Pul. Considering how easy it is to
get the gems this is the way I always get my puls. (but I don't trust anyone
so I use them for upgrades LOL) Alternately you can trade the 40 gems for 3
Lems and cube the Pul up yourself guarenteeing that is isn't a dupe. GL!

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Want a Tal ammy for your 20 pgems? :)
We can use that same mule that Hammy lent us last time.

I'm quite sure you can sell Tal ammy for a Pul easily by making pubbie
games.
 
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"Alice" <malice_diablo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Sliver wrote:
> > > However, last night SvH gave me a Trang's Belt, so I'll try and
> trade that
> > > for a Pul.
>
> Selling items are incredibly hard, because channel is usually filled
> with bots that direct only whispers directed at them to the bot owners.
>
> > In that case get 40 pgems and make a game "40pgem4Pul" You should get
> a bite
> > in no time at all and there will be your Pul. Considering how easy it
> is to
> > get the gems this is the way I always get my puls. (but I don't trust
> anyone
> > so I use them for upgrades LOL) Alternately you can trade the 40 gems
> for 3
> > Lems and cube the Pul up yourself guarenteeing that is isn't a dupe.
> GL!
>
> I doubt people dupe Pul, or runes lower than Gul for that matter.
> Lem trades for 20 pgems, so 2 Lem = 40 pgems, not 3. If you (or anyone
> in USWest SCL) want to trade 80 pgems, I usually have an Um for them.
> When I have a Pul, I will also take 40 pgems (that include skulls,
> every type is the same to me). While at it, any USWest SCL players
> looking for Tal ammy? I just realized I have way too many and will
> sell to you for 20 pgems each - part of my "Operation Wealth Recovery",
> as Jabber called it :)
>
> >

I'm pretty sure I could scare up 20 PGems :) Don't know about 40 or 80, but
I can get 20 :eek:)


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"Alice" <malice_diablo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Want a Tal ammy for your 20 pgems? :)
> We can use that same mule that Hammy lent us last time.
>
> I'm quite sure you can sell Tal ammy for a Pul easily by making pubbie
> games.
>
Yup, I'm in for that trade :eek:)


thanks!!!


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"Alice" <malice_diablo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Sliver wrote:
>> > However, last night SvH gave me a Trang's Belt, so I'll try and
> trade that
>> > for a Pul.
>
> Selling items are incredibly hard, because channel is usually filled
> with bots that direct only whispers directed at them to the bot owners.
>
>> In that case get 40 pgems and make a game "40pgem4Pul" You should get
> a bite
>> in no time at all and there will be your Pul. Considering how easy it
> is to
>> get the gems this is the way I always get my puls. (but I don't trust
> anyone
>> so I use them for upgrades LOL) Alternately you can trade the 40 gems
> for 3
>> Lems and cube the Pul up yourself guarenteeing that is isn't a dupe.
> GL!
>
> I doubt people dupe Pul, or runes lower than Gul for that matter.
> Lem trades for 20 pgems, so 2 Lem = 40 pgems, not 3. If you (or anyone
> in USWest SCL) want to trade 80 pgems, I usually have an Um for them.
> When I have a Pul, I will also take 40 pgems (that include skulls,
> every type is the same to me). While at it, any USWest SCL players
> looking for Tal ammy? I just realized I have way too many and will
> sell to you for 20 pgems each - part of my "Operation Wealth Recovery",
> as Jabber called it :)

Well depends on where ya trade. I'm on US East so some things are more
expensive and other things are cheaper and then again I might just be lucky
8D But I still trust no one that I don't play with regularly and definitely
not the gits in public games that try and rip me off all the time LOL

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Devast8or wrote:
> Yeah, I could use a Tal's ammy (only part of the set I haven't found
yet).
> 20 pgems sound great to me, do you have any particular favorites?

My favorite is whichever type you less likely to use :)

> What's you account name? I'm either at *Devast8or1 or *Devast8or2. I
live in
> Denmark, so I'm on at odd hours though, so I'm guessing we'll just
have to
> look out for each other.
>
> Devast8or

My account names are *BreganDaerthe and *PurpleOcean. Please note that
if you see *PurpleOcean2, that may or may not be me.
Well if you prefer, we can trade via mule, email me the account name
and password, the above email is good.

The same goes to you too, Jabber, or we can see if we'll bump into each
other.

Short, if you still want to trade, the account that we used last time
was *mule-team. Ask Hammy what the password is, or shoot me an email.

Please let me know how many Tal ammies you want. Yes I have lots of
these. At the very least, you can make a 20 pgems profit by reselling
each one for a Pul, if you have the knack for trading :)
 
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Alice wrote:
> While at it, any USWest SCL
> players looking for Tal ammy? I just realized I have way too many
> and will sell to you for 20 pgems each - part of my "Operation Wealth
> Recovery", as Jabber called it :)

Yeah, I could use a Tal's ammy (only part of the set I haven't found yet).
20 pgems sound great to me, do you have any particular favorites?

What's you account name? I'm either at *Devast8or1 or *Devast8or2. I live in
Denmark, so I'm on at odd hours though, so I'm guessing we'll just have to
look out for each other.

Devast8or
 
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On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 21:27:43 -0800, Alice wrote:

> Please let me know how many Tal ammies you want. Yes I have lots of
> these. At the very least, you can make a 20 pgems profit by reselling
> each one for a Pul, if you have the knack for trading :)

On realms you see a lot of games with Um for Tal Armor and some
games with Tal Armor for Um. You see a lot of games with Tal
Ammy for Um but rarely Um for Tal Ammy. Also see complete
set for 2UM-IST. My interp is that you should ask for
Pul + Lem for the ammy if you don't need an instant response
but don't want to wait to long. Alternatively diabloii forums
are again nice for trading these days if you can wait a day or
two to close deals.
 
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"short" <shorts@zoominternet.net> had this idea for a movie:

>However, last night SvH gave me a Trang's Belt, so I'll try and trade that
>for a Pul.

Save your trade fodder. Following some agressive negotiations with the
Countess today, a Pul rune is now awaiting your collection.
 
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> I doubt people dupe Pul, or runes lower than Gul for that matter.

Well, on West, Um and Ist are(or were) all duped frequently(Ist in
particularl was HEAVILY duped) and Mal was sometimes duped as well, and
they're lower than Gul are..
 
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:00:42 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:

> short wrote:
>> Here it is!
>>
>> http://users.zoominternet.net/~shorts/oath

> Nice weapon!

Yeah, it looks awesome!

>Shame it's at the lower end of the ED scale for Oath but still
> formidible.

He got 245% ED from the range 210-340, and the easily overlooked
14 magic absorb at the top end of the range 10-15.
Who cares about such a low number on the magic absorb, right?
But consider that in those packs of burning archers, each individual
shot is in the range 29-42 fire damage, so between his axe and his
fire resist he could be taking almost no net damage from those now.
Similar kind of story would apply to Diablo's lightning hose.
 
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I think it was Last2Know <grokkalot@yahoo.com> that wrote something
like...

>
>>Shame it's at the lower end of the ED scale for Oath but still
>> formidible.
>
>He got 245% ED from the range 210-340, and the easily overlooked
>14 magic absorb at the top end of the range 10-15.
>Who cares about such a low number on the magic absorb, right?
>But consider that in those packs of burning archers, each individual
>shot is in the range 29-42 fire damage, so between his axe and his
>fire resist he could be taking almost no net damage from those now.
>Similar kind of story would apply to Diablo's lightning hose.
>
>

I would have thought magic absorb was only for absorbing magic damage,
not _any_ type of elemental damage.

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"Last2Know" <grokkalot@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:00:42 +1300, ~misfit~ wrote:
>
> > short wrote:
> >> Here it is!
> >>
> >> http://users.zoominternet.net/~shorts/oath
>
> > Nice weapon!
>
> Yeah, it looks awesome!
>
> >Shame it's at the lower end of the ED scale for Oath but still
> > formidible.
>
> He got 245% ED from the range 210-340, and the easily overlooked
> 14 magic absorb at the top end of the range 10-15.
> Who cares about such a low number on the magic absorb, right?
> But consider that in those packs of burning archers, each individual
> shot is in the range 29-42 fire damage, so between his axe and his
> fire resist he could be taking almost no net damage from those now.
> Similar kind of story would apply to Diablo's lightning hose.
>
>
>
Yeah, but will that work if my Fire resist is about..........-23 or so? I
do have a Dwarfstar on now though :)


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"Ashen Shugar" <deathsabyss@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> I think it was Last2Know <grokkalot@yahoo.com> that wrote something
> like...
>
> >
> >>Shame it's at the lower end of the ED scale for Oath but still
> >> formidible.
> >
> >He got 245% ED from the range 210-340, and the easily overlooked
> >14 magic absorb at the top end of the range 10-15.
> >Who cares about such a low number on the magic absorb, right?
> >But consider that in those packs of burning archers, each individual
> >shot is in the range 29-42 fire damage, so between his axe and his
> >fire resist he could be taking almost no net damage from those now.
> >Similar kind of story would apply to Diablo's lightning hose.
> >
> >
>
> I would have thought magic absorb was only for absorbing magic damage,
> not _any_ type of elemental damage.
>
>
Well, if it works the same way Magic Damage Reduction works (or used to
work) then it will. I don't know if it still works that way though.


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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 06:41:11 +0000, Ashen Shugar wrote:

> I think it was Last2Know <grokkalot@yahoo.com> that wrote something
> like...
>
>>
>>>Shame it's at the lower end of the ED scale for Oath but still
>>> formidible.
>>
>>He got 245% ED from the range 210-340, and the easily overlooked
>>14 magic absorb at the top end of the range 10-15.
>>Who cares about such a low number on the magic absorb, right?
>>But consider that in those packs of burning archers, each individual
>>shot is in the range 29-42 fire damage, so between his axe and his
>>fire resist he could be taking almost no net damage from those now.
>>Similar kind of story would apply to Diablo's lightning hose.
>>
>>
>
> I would have thought magic absorb was only for absorbing magic damage,
> not _any_ type of elemental damage.

It's thematically very similar to magic damage reduction (MDR) which
works on fire, cold, lightning (but not poison and I'm not sure about
magic). Now that you mention it, I'm making a leap by assuming that
magic absorb here is using "magic" in the same sense. A preliminary
search suggests that the "Oath" runeword is the only item granting this
property, so it may be up to Short to test which meaning applies by
running in front of some burning archers with his axe and then
without it. :)
 
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:53:42 -0600, Last2Know wrote:

>> I would have thought magic absorb was only for absorbing magic damage,
>> not _any_ type of elemental damage.
>
> It's thematically very similar to magic damage reduction (MDR) which
> works on fire, cold, lightning (but not poison and I'm not sure about
> magic). Now that you mention it, I'm making a leap by assuming that
> magic absorb here is using "magic" in the same sense. A preliminary
> search suggests that the "Oath" runeword is the only item granting this
> property,

The new word "spirit" also grants +3-8 to magic absorb.
 
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"short" <shorts@zoominternet.net> had this idea for a movie:

>An Ethereal Glorious has what, 90-186 damage I think.
>If I can even get 300% ED, I'll be swinging something really hurtful, I
>think.
>360-744. Wooohoooooo!
>
>Add in a lvl 20 Fanat, and I've already got it at 6 frames too!

Show them a pic of your new axe, bro!


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"Stephen van Ham" <svanham@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> "short" <shorts@zoominternet.net> had this idea for a movie:
>
> >An Ethereal Glorious has what, 90-186 damage I think.
> >If I can even get 300% ED, I'll be swinging something really hurtful, I
> >think.
> >360-744. Wooohoooooo!
> >
> >Add in a lvl 20 Fanat, and I've already got it at 6 frames too!
>
> Show them a pic of your new axe, bro!
>

Yup, I gotta get that uploaded. I took a screenshot but didn't email it to
myself.


short - bad me!!
 
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On 10-Mar-2005, "short" <shorts@zoominternet.net> wrote:

> Yup, I gotta get that uploaded. I took a screenshot but didn't email it
> to
> myself.
>
> short - bad me!!

Whatever happened to sneaker net?
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