Question I'm wondering if I need a new PSU

[VariableArc]

The one I currently have is a 450 watt psu and I recently upgraded from a rx 580 to a 6650 xt. My pc has a ryzen 7 5700x, 1 1tb ssd and 1 1tb hdd, stock cpu cooler and 2 phanteks fans, and 24 gb of ram, 2400mhz (asking because my computer seems to be running slower) also when I load games, my new gpu only uses about 50-60 watts but has a higher gpu usage % compared to my old rx 580 which would average 80-90 watts (I also have a b350m bazooka motherboard)

 

[COLGeek]

AMD recommends, at least, a 500w PSU. https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-6650-xt

What is the make/model of your current PSU?

 

[VariableArc]

Im unsure, my case covers anything that would allow me to see. ill try taking the case apart

 

[COLGeek]

Should be a label on the side of the PSU with the info on it.

 

[VariableArc]

Ill have take the case apart, seems the label is on the covered side, shouldn’t take too long

 

[VariableArc]

Should be a label on the side of the PSU with the info on it.

Made a mistake, its a Channel well technology power supply 500 watt max 80+ bronze, any other reason why my pc might be running slower, it happens when browsing the internet too

 

[Karadjgne]

Changing gpus you should at a minimum use DDU through safe mode to erase any old registry and file affiliations with the old gpu. Rarely, the pc may require a reinstall of Windows, which can be done without loss of any personal files or data or apps, it just resets Windows with the new hardware, erasing any thoughts of the old stuff.

Channel Well is an actual psu OEM, like Seasonic, that happens to also produce its own house brand psus. Consequently, that psu could be of any quality from excellent to utter garbage, as Channel Well can produce all quality types.

Depending on its actual age, vs the fact that most 500w psus are basically builder grade, a good quality 550w would be the cheapest advised option, being the largest competitive market until recently.

But if it's pretty new, it's going to be on you, it's Bronze at least, so likely not total garbage like any W or N or unrated or outright lie psus

 

[VariableArc]

Changing gpus you should at a minimum use DDU through safe mode to erase any old registry and file affiliations with the old gpu. Rarely, the pc may require a reinstall of Windows, which can be done without loss of any personal files or data or apps, it just resets Windows with the new hardware, erasing any thoughts of the old stuff.

Channel Well is an actual psu OEM, like Seasonic, that happens to also produce its own house brand psus. Consequently, that psu could be of any quality from excellent to utter garbage, as Channel Well can produce all quality types.

Depending on its actual age, vs the fact that most 500w psus are basically builder grade, a good quality 550w would be the cheapest advised option, being the largest competitive market until recently.

But if it's pretty new, it's going to be on you, it's Bronze at least, so likely not total garbage like any W or N or unrated or outright lie psus

ok so it most likely will be the psu, ive had it for about 4 years now, ill try another DDU but if it doesnt work, ill most likely upgrade to a 650 watt just to be safe, and thanks

 

[VariableArc]

Changing gpus you should at a minimum use DDU through safe mode to erase any old registry and file affiliations with the old gpu. Rarely, the pc may require a reinstall of Windows, which can be done without loss of any personal files or data or apps, it just resets Windows with the new hardware, erasing any thoughts of the old stuff.

Channel Well is an actual psu OEM, like Seasonic, that happens to also produce its own house brand psus. Consequently, that psu could be of any quality from excellent to utter garbage, as Channel Well can produce all quality types.

Depending on its actual age, vs the fact that most 500w psus are basically builder grade, a good quality 550w would be the cheapest advised option, being the largest competitive market until recently.

But if it's pretty new, it's going to be on you, it's Bronze at least, so likely not total garbage like any W or N or unrated or outright lie psus

DDU didnt work, im assuming i have to upgrade psu since its pretty old now, again thanks for your help.

 

[COLGeek]

The PSU is not the likely cause of any slow downs. You either have enough power for your rig, or not. Slow downs are often heat related as the system throttles itself to protect from overheating.

Knowing the actual model number (details matter) of the PSU is important. Also, what are your CPU and GPU operating temperatures at idle and under load?

Still not a bad idea to replace the PSU with a quality 650w make/model. What is your budget?

BTW, what do you mean "DDU didn't work"? How so?

 

[VariableArc]

The PSU is not the likely cause of any slow downs. You either have enough power for your rig, or not. Slow downs are often heat related as the system throttles itself to protect from overheating.

Knowing the actual model number (details matter) of the PSU is important. Also, what are your CPU and GPU operating temperatures at idle and under load?

Still not a bad idea to replace the PSU with a quality 650w make/model. What is your budget?

BTW, what do you mean "DDU didn't work"? How so?

My gpu while idle and no fans on stays around 50c my cpu also idles around 50 c, and by the ddu not working i meant it didnt fix my problem, it did delete all the old drivers though so it worked as intended. Edit: i let it run a bit and it started going up until the 70s and started making a rattling sound ( assuming it came from the cpu)

 

[COLGeek]

Have you scanned this system for malware recently?

 

[VariableArc]

Have you scanned this system for malware recently?

I have, i also just fully wiped it, so i dont think that would be a cause

 

[COLGeek]

Your previous comment about temps going up made me wonder if something was running in the background. 70c for a CPU in use is not bad. Rattling could be a dirty or even defective fan. That is usually easy to isolate by stopping fans, one at a time, while operating.

 

[VariableArc]

Your previous comment about temps going up made me wonder if something was running in the background. 70c for a CPU in use is not bad. Rattling could be a dirty or even defective fan. That is usually easy to isolate by stopping fans, one at a time, while operating.

Just checked again, it idles below 50, i opened task manager this time and steam was downloading something, so that was most likely it

 

[COLGeek]

How full are your SSD and HDD?

Also, 24 GB of memory of what configuration (make/model of all installed memory)?

 

[VariableArc]

How full are your SSD and HDD?

Also, 24 GB of memory of what configuration (make/model of all installed memory)?

Ssd and hdd are recently wiped so empty, 24 gb set to 2400mhz, one stick is ADATA , the other 2 are corsair vengeance RGB PRO (2x8)

 

[COLGeek]

Mixing memory can result in undesirable results. I would remove the Adata and see if the system performance improves in any way.

 

[VariableArc]

Mixing memory can result in undesirable results. I would remove the Adata and see if the system performance improves in any way.

Removed it and increased it to 3000mhz too but it only improved for a small time, then it went back to how it was with my other ram stick in it

 

[COLGeek]

Is Windows installed on your SSD or HDD?

 

[VariableArc]

Is Windows installed on your SSD or HDD?

Ssd. Edit: going to download a more demanding game that i know i could barely run at low settings with my rx 580

 

[VariableArc]

Okay, i played warzone 2.0, which was a game my rx580 could barely handle at low, and my pc performs better at high with no drops with my rx 6650xt, i think it just might be one game that doesnt work well with my rx 6650xt ( that game is persona 5 royal, which performs better on my rx 580 for some reason)

 

[Karadjgne]

With cpu and gpu both idle at roughly the same temps, which they should, and that temp being 50°ish, I'd be wondering at 2 things. Ambient temps and airflow. Even dl steam updates is a relatively simple task, not going to affect the cpu all that much, so it's close enough to idle to make a negligible difference. There's always background tasking present at idle anyway.

With airflow, it's less about how many fans, it's about how the fans you do have are working. Does putting all the fans to 100% change the temps much or very little, are there larger obstructions like a ton of wires and hdd cages in the way of the air path etc. What reading do you get for motherboard temp?

 

[VariableArc]

With cpu and gpu both idle at roughly the same temps, which they should, and that temp being 50°ish, I'd be wondering at 2 things. Ambient temps and airflow. Even dl steam updates is a relatively simple task, not going to affect the cpu all that much, so it's close enough to idle to make a negligible difference. There's always background tasking present at idle anyway.

With airflow, it's less about how many fans, it's about how the fans you do have are working. Does putting all the fans to 100% change the temps much or very little, are there larger obstructions like a ton of wires and hdd cages in the way of the air path etc. What reading do you get for motherboard temp?

Idle my motherboard is around 37c, my cpu doesnt seem to go above 70 when playing games either

 

[VariableArc]

Motherboard peeked 52 c when playing warzone in high settings, cpu peaked 79c, and gpu peaked 70c at the hotspot