Question In need of some troubleshooting help (GTX 1050)

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Hello everyone I hope you guys have a nice day. This would be a rather lengthy post I'll try my best to summarize down below.

I've been rocking a Sapphire HD 5770 (https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/sapphire-hd-5770.b742) for the past few years and decided to upgrade as I have some money to spend. Went online and bought a used Zotac GTX 1050 and it just arrived earlier today (bought locally).

I forgot what to do when converting from an AMD GPU to a NVIDIA GPU so I went online again, to see the recommended method: cleaning old driver using DDU (https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html). I download GPU-Z as well to further verify the hardware of bought GPU (don't want those knock-off GPU to slide through my door). Cleaned my AMD driver using DDU (Clean then shut down option) and then proceeded to put the new GPU in place.

The Story

First thing I encountered after installing the new GPU (i.e. inserting it in the PCI-E slot) was that I got stuck in the BIOS splash screen. The computer beeped once (sign of a rather healthy/successful boot) but stayed on the splash screen. A little bit of googling leads me to this video which solved the problem:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKTNwboL9Ho
I'm currently using a Gigabyte B75M-D3V (https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B75M-D3V-rev-10) motherboard and the BIOS version was F3. Downloaded the newest BIOS from the web (F13) and proceeded to follow the instructions from the video.

That succeeded, booted up to Windows (with the monitor connected to the discrete GPU), and proceeded to install its newest driver: 445.75 (https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/159091/en-us). GPU-Z recognized the GPU (https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/zotac-gtx-1050-mini.b3943), and my monitor was in its proper resolution. Tried out Mad Max, was able to run on 1366 x 768 (yes I live in a cave) on Very High settings. So until now everything looks okay.

Here's where things starts to get messy (TL;DR)

I left my desk with the computer on (I was downloading a game) and head outside the house for some fresh air. It was probably 15-30 minutes before I came back in. First thing I noticed was that the screen didn't turn on after I pressed the keyboard and mouse (it was on screen timeout), not long after loud fan noises came from inside the case (didn't know which fan it was). Forced shut down the computer from the power button in the casing, and then rebooted it. To my surprise, now the screen is not showing anything (not even the splash screen, or the good old "No signal"), until the time of this post. Tried it once or twice to no avail. So here are the things that I did:

Keep in mind while all these was done, every time it's plugged the new GPU fan runs (which kind of means that it's alive?)

  1. Connect my monitor to the IGPU from the motherboard to find that it works;
  2. Re-seated the new GPU, nothing happened;
  3. Changed Integrated Graphics settings in BIOS from Auto to Disable, only to have my computer spewing out 1 long beep and 3 short beeps whenever I tried to restart;
  4. Reset the BIOS by taking off the CMOS battery (15 minutes);
  5. I suspected that it was the VGA - HDMI adapter, but this was soon ruled out as I was able to connect the monitor to my Laptop;
  6. I re-seated my old GPU, it worked;
  7. Tried the IGPU with my old GPU seated, it worked;
  8. Re-seated the new GPU again, nothing happened;
  9. Cleaned both the AMD driver and Nvidia driver using DDU numerous times;
  10. Tried both GPUs, only the old one works (i.e. shows up stuffs in the monitor);
  11. Both GPU shows up as "Microsoft basic display adapter" in Device Manager and DDU whenever plugged in, however, the NVIDIA was hidden in device manager, and had 45 error code;
  12. Took of the CMOS battery again for God knows how long (I left my room to eat and contemplate my decisions);
  13. Uninstalled the hidden "Microsoft basic display adapter" only to find it gone...forever? It's not there anymore whenever I try to use the new GPU;
  14. Tried installing the NVIDIA driver whilst using the IGPU only to get the "NVIDIA Installer Cannot Continue" error in each iteration;
  15. Reflashed the F13 BIOS;
Questions

  1. What should I do?
  2. What could be the culprit?
I'm planning to try the GPU in my friend's computer to see if it's motherboard related (i.e. my motherboard is not compatible) though I feel that it's very unlikely cuz...well...it worked once. I'm not sure whether or not I can rule out the PSU because well...my old VGA was beefier in terms of power consumption, but maybe it's the culprit. The seller gave a one month warranty and is willing to come by at my place to check, though, but still, any help would be much appreciated.

System Specifications

CPU: Intel Core i3-2120 (https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/53426/intel-core-i3-2120-processor-3m-cache-3-30-ghz.html)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B75M-D3V (rev. 1.0) (https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B75M-D3V-rev-10/)
Old VGA: Sapphire HD 5770 (https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/sapphire-hd-5770.b742)
New VGA: Zotac GTX 1050 (https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/zotac-gtx-1050-mini.b3943)
RAM: 4GB DDR3 12800 + 4GB DDR3 10700 (I know, I know don't kill me for this one)
PSU: ThermalTake Smart SE 530W (https://it.thermaltake.com/smart-se-530w.html)

Thanks in advance!
 
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TechyInAZ

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Oh man, I'm so sorry but the GTX 1050 is not compatible with your motherboard.

The issue is the BIOS, Pascal and beyond only supports UEFI bios's. 2011 motherboards do not support UEFI but the old legacy standard unfortunately.

You'll either have to use an older GPU like a GTX 960 or upgrade your CPU and motherboard to something that's a little newer at the bare minimum.
 
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Oh man, I'm so sorry but the GTX 1050 is not compatible with your motherboard.

The issue is the BIOS, Pascal and beyond only supports UEFI bios's. 2011 motherboards do not support UEFI but the old legacy standard unfortunately.

You'll either have to use an older GPU like a GTX 960 or upgrade your CPU and motherboard to something that's a little newer at the bare minimum.
Are you sure about that? I mean, there's this "UEFI DualBios" on the product page, and here are some posts regarding compatibility:
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/nvidia-1050-ti-on-a-b75m-d3v.2559374/
https://www.userbenchmark.com/System/Gigabyte-GA-B75M-D3V/3832

There's also a Youtuber making "benchmark" videos using said motherboard and a GTX 1050 Ti:
View: https://youtu.be/5ZIZKJm6eiM


Regardless of that, why would it boot up (and perform) perfectly the first time around? I'm stil confused.

Anyway, thanks for the response!
 

TechyInAZ

Polypheme
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Ah ok thanks for that, I thought all 2011 motherboards didn't support UEFI.

I guess your board does have UEFI support. Can you make sure the board is not in old legacy mode? On boards even to this day, there's something called CSM which is a compatibility mode that is designed to run non UEFI compatible stuff in legacy mode.

There should be a setting to turn CSM completely off.
 
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Ah ok thanks for that, I thought all 2011 motherboards didn't support UEFI.

I guess your board does have UEFI support. Can you make sure the board is not in old legacy mode? On boards even to this day, there's something called CSM which is a compatibility mode that is designed to run non UEFI compatible stuff in legacy mode.

There should be a setting to turn CSM completely off.
Hey again, I tried all the above. "OS Type" set to Windows 8 (no option for Windows 10), "CSM Support" set to never, "Secure Boot" set to Disabled. But still to no avail. In fact, whenever I connect my monitor to the new GPU, it (motherboard) spews out 1 long beep and 3 short beeps. It doesn't do that on the IGPU.

On a side note, last night I tried to set "Init Display First" to "PEG", and "Internal Graphics" to Disabled, same thing happened: 1 long beep and 3 short beeps.

On another side note, the previous seller ran it on an Intel Xeon X3430 + Asrock H55M (I believe the motherboard is 1 gen away from mine?)
 
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Hey again, I tried all the above. "OS Type" set to Windows 8 (no option for Windows 10), "CSM Support" set to never, "Secure Boot" set to Disabled. But still to no avail. In fact, whenever I connect my monitor to the new GPU, it (motherboard) spews out 1 long beep and 3 short beeps. It doesn't do that on the IGPU.

On a side note, last night I tried to set "Init Display First" to "PEG", and "Internal Graphics" to Disabled, same thing happened: 1 long beep and 3 short beeps.

On another side note, the previous seller ran it on an Intel Xeon X3430 + Asrock H55M (I believe the motherboard is 1 gen away from mine?)
So I decided to switch back to my old GPU just because, and encountered some problems:
  1. At first try, both GPU and IGPU wouldn't show anything (didn't change the BIOS settings);
  2. "Internal Graphics" was set to Enabled, i.e. both IGPU and GPU will work at the same time (CMIIW) which it did (only IGPU though, the GPU is still not showing anything);
  3. Checked the Device Manager to see that it's detected as a hidden "Microsoft basic display adapter", DDU picked up the GPU too;
  4. Installed AMD Catalyst Installer Manager but nothing seems installed;
  5. Rebooted the computer;
  6. The GPU is no longer hidden in Device Manager, and AMD Catalyst Installer Manager actually went and install the necessary drivers;
  7. Hot-plugged (is this the correct term?) the monitor from the IGPU to the GPU, i.e. switched from the VGA port of the motherboard to the HDMI port of the GPU without shutting down the machine, and voila now the GPU works!
I think it might have something to do with the BIOS settings but I just don't know what. If someone has any experience with the same motherboard (GA-B75M-D3V) and GPU series (GeForce 10 Series) help would be much appreciated.
 
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Hello, me again. I met with the seller, and he was kind enough to switch with another unit of his while he inspects. So far he's encountered 1 long beep and 9 short beeps. But that's his problem.

However, I encountered something else. The replacement GPU works well at the start, the seller came by, seated it in (my old GPU's driver is still there but he gave no attention to it whatsoever) and it boots. I installed the driver and tested out Mad Max again, fantastic results. Restarted numerous times just because, used it for basic use and every thing was fine.

Then I left it for my phone for 30-45 minutes, screen timeout, then there's this loud fan noise yet again, couldn't get the monitor to show anything so I restarted the computer. It got to the boot screen, the loud fan goes on again, and soon after the splash screen monitor goes black. So I suspect the VGA was behind those noises. Restarted the computer again, it doesn't start soon after, took it a few more self-restarts until it finally boots properly into Windows.

So what the hell happened there? Anyone?
 

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