In The Lab: Previewing Lenovo's IdeaPad Yoga 13

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mdbrotha03

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[citation][nom]DjEaZy[/nom]... GPU on this is meh...[/citation]

Funny, I don't remember mentioning this as a gaming laptop.

I have one and its good enough and lite for me to run my daily missions on Star Trek Online while traveling. I'll save the heavy graphics for when I'm at home on the desktop.
 

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I bought one of these the day Win 8 came out. It's been a mostly positive experience with a few minor quirks.

The performance is acceptable for what it is. Don't go in expecting a gaming beast, but it's great for surfing the net/watching videos on the couch/in bed and the kind of stuff you'd reasonably be doing on the go.

Battery life is just about 5 hours of video playback off YouTube and the like, or a bit better off the drive. Close to 8 hours of just light web browsing of reddit and such. (Note this in in power saving mode with the screen turned down to a level appropriate for an almost completely dark room) I took it with me while waiting in line for 5 hours for the Hobbit and it was at between 35 and 40% when the movie started tethering it to my phone with wifi. (Actually outlasting the phones battery)

My initial complaint when I got it was how much of the 128GB SSD was allocated to recovery partitions when i got it (the C drive was 64GB, so I had just over 40GB after windows was installed). They've since released a patch on the website that's supposed to increase the C drive to 100GB, but I had already manually re-formatted it before that and freed the entire drive.

The fan isn't horrible, but it's not as quiet as they make it sound. at a distance of 3-4 feet it's almost inaudible during light loads, but using it from a more normal laptop distance you can hear it. And when using it as a tablet from a distance under a foot it is not what I'd call quiet if you are laying in a position that has the vents facing toward you. The biggest sound issue i have is the fan virtually never shut off. Even in power saving mode, which defaults to passive cooling, the only time I've ever gotten the fan's to shut off is when you let the screen turn off, or intermittently in a room temperature probably in the mid 50's F.

There is a case designed for it you can use when in tablet mode that slots over the back to cover the keyboard, but although it exposes the power button, volume rockers, etc. it cover's the USB ports so it's of limited use. Also it feels cheaply made for being $40.

Although I haven't done so myself, from what others have said on the forums it's actually got decent upgradeability for an ultrabook. By just removing the keyboard (double sided tape) you can replace the RAM (single slot, so take out the 4GB to put in an 8GB stick). Or by also removing quite a few screws (but not having to take any actual components out i don't think), you can replace the SSD (mSATA) or even add a second SSD as it comes with two mSATA slots and one is empty.

Though not 1080p, the screen at 1600x900 is better than that of a standard laptop, and the not being 1080p will actually give it a slight advantage trying to run games at native resolution (Though I haven't installed any to try it).

The Keyboard is adequate, though not amazing. I seem to miss the space bar occasionally when typing, but that's just me not a hardware issue. Truthfully I use it in tablet mode much more than anything else.

Most of the mode's work great, but using it propped up with the keyboard down and the screen angled (basically reverse laptop) can be hit or miss on an uneven surface because the default keyboard/trackpad disable point in rotating the hinges seems to be set too late so they often don't disable until it's rotated past 300 degrees, when ideally they would disable at between 180 and 270 at the latest.

Overall I'm very happy with it though for what I wanted, which was basically a bigger tablet running the fill x86 windows that I could use as a laptop when out and about. I have a desktop for gaming/heavy use already, but I use my Yoga nightly as well. It's also great for when I need to do a quick edit in Photoshop or remote in to another PC for work for a couple minutes to do something quick but don't feel like getting up and going to my desktop to do it. My only complaint from a work regard as an ultra-portable is no wired Ethernet, but you can get a USB dongle for that easy enough, which I did. The price ($1000) is a bit higher than your standard Ultrabook of the same specs, but well in line with other machines adding similar dual functionality of tablet use in various ways.

The value of full x86 compatibility in this, as well as the other similar devices soon to come out, makes it a huge step up from your standard tablet in functionality. As much as android tablets are improving in this regard, windows still takes the 'it just works' crown by a large margin. And in that regard, for a device like this Win 8 is great. I'm still town for desktop use between 7 and 8, but for something along these lines 8 is a no brainer.

TLDR: If you go in with reasonable expectations it won't disappoint you. Remember it's a Ultrabook/tablet hybrid not a desktop or even high performance laptop.
 

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[citation][nom]DjEaZy[/nom]... GPU on this is meh...[/citation]
[citation][nom]mdbrotha03[/nom]Funny, I don't remember mentioning this as a gaming laptop.I have one and its good enough and lite for me to run my daily missions on Star Trek Online while traveling. I'll save the heavy graphics for when I'm at home on the desktop.[/citation]
... still... gpu = meh... i can not find, so may be im wrong... but haz this GPU OpenCL and DirectCompute support? if not?! HEH....
 

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The Yoga seems like one of the best ultrabooks out there right now. It's really competitive just as an ultrabook, not even factoring in that you can somewhat use it as a tablet, or angle the keyboard back to show the screen at any angle while using it in bed or something. Seems pretty great.

Kind of odd that they have two small fans in the same spot, no? Why not one larger one?
 

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Does anyone know about plans to make a similar product with an A-10. I need a new laptop, but don't have the money for a desktop too. I want a touch screen and to be able to play low to mid resource usage games like Guild Wars 2, League of Legends, and Command and Conquer, like I can on my current A-8, although with slightly less than desirable frame rates (now with a non-functional keyboard thanks to some misplaced orange juice), and I'm not convinced that Intel's integrated graphics can do that.
 

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[citation][nom]hytecgowthaman[/nom]Anyway high cost windows 8 tablets from lenovo.[/citation]

You make it sound like $1,000 for a REAL computer that can also function as a tablet AND has an IPS monitor in it is a bad deal. This isn't an iPad or a Nexus 7... you can actually get work done on this.
 

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I think they should have made the screen detachable instead of being able to fold it.

Maybe make an APU version of it just so that it can have better graphics.
 

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The thing about the keyboard when you flip open the Yoga. I have one, and i almost never hold it like a tablet. I think it was not meant for that! It works great when I'm lying on the couch and i just use the Yoga in tablet mode putting it against my legs. When I am sitting on the couch or on the bed, I use it in stand mode, so it's like a tablet but i don't have to hold it in my hands. So the real great idea for me is that you can get rid of the keyboard when you want to use the touch screen or watch a movie. I think it's just so simple and so genial. I won't go back to a standard laptop.
 

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I am still eagerly awaiting the promised full review - under the knife article from the lab guys; or did they get stuck in Las Vegas?
 

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Also looking forward to an in-depth Tom's review of this device, hopefully with a full teardown. What's the casing/shell made out of? I've heard rubber-painted magnesium alloy, but also rubber-painted plastic.
 

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Really the good one ,I am using samsung and going to change it with a brand new note book with high configration . I am a stock market professional and need a fast and reliable notebook just like which can earn only if fast and reliable.
 
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