Increase min fps

[guerrerodota.cm]

currently i got a 7500 with a gtx 1050ti and when i play games like rainbow six siege, dota 2, sometimes fps drop to 60-70 and i was asking which one should i upgrade to increase my min fps, cpu or gpu? 1080p 144 hz btw.

 

[zyh1987]

minimum are usually related to bottle neck, you can take a look at the system utilization with MSI afterburner.
when fps dips, how does your CPU and GPU responds? do they get higher utilization or less utilization.

usually, i finds minimum frame rates are more with memory and CPU speed.
what's your budget on this?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Well, your system is quite well balanced with your CPU and GPU. You definitely don't have any major bottleneck CPU/GPU wise. But just to be clear, to fully utilise the 1080p 144hz panel you need a more powerful GPU. The 1050ti is just not gonna get you anywhere close to that, apart from some older games, and those less demanding. For new games/AAA you will really struggle to get close to that, or beyond 60-80 FPS/hz. A better CPU will help in certain scenarios, but is not essential just yet.

Another thing to mention is that although your CPU is still very decent, it is a 4c/4t CPU. There are some games out there right now that will use all your CPU processing power, just to keep up with your GPU. e.g BF1 which is okay with a 7500, but can take advantage of more core/threads. So it's worth looking into that down the line.

Can you list your PC specs? in full, ram, mobo, psu too!

I suspect it's one of two things. Your CPU maxing out, or only having 8gbs of ram. Again depending on what game you are playing, having only 8gbs of ram, can cause problems. When your system ram fills up, it starts to use the swap file on the HD for storing data which is fed to the GPU, and this is very slow. This can cause massive FPS drops in games. e.g Again, would be BF1, COD WW2, wolfenstein 2 - each of those games, depending on hardware and other variables will use over 9gb of system ram, sometimes as much as 11gb when gaming. So if you only have 8gb, i'd suggest looking into a 16gb kit as having to little ram can have a big impact.

 

[guerrerodota.cm]

minimum are usually related to bottle neck, you can take a look at the system utilization with MSI afterburner.
when fps dips, how does your CPU and GPU responds? do they get higher utilization or less utilization.

usually, i finds minimum frame rates are more with memory and CPU speed.
what's your budget on this?

the cpu is usually 100 percent at any time in rainbow six while in the gpu is at 70-80 percent usage. Dota 2 cpu usage 70 and gpu around 60-80. My budget is 450 bucks

 

[guerrerodota.cm]

Well, your system is quite well balanced with your CPU and GPU. You definitely don't have any major bottleneck CPU/GPU wise. But just to be clear, to fully utilise the 1080p 144hz panel you need a more powerful GPU. The 1050ti is just not gonna get you anywhere close to that, apart from some older games, and those less demanding. For new games/AAA you will really struggle to get close to that, or beyond 60-80 FPS/hz. A better CPU will help in certain scenarios, but is not essential just yet.

Another thing to mention is that although your CPU is still very decent, it is a 4c/4t CPU. There are some games out there right now that will use all your CPU processing power, just to keep up with your GPU. e.g BF1 which is okay with a 7500, but can take advantage of more core/threads. So it's worth looking into that down the line.

Can you list your PC specs? in full, ram, mobo, psu too!

I suspect it's one of two things. Your CPU maxing out, or only having 8gbs of ram. Again depending on what game you are playing, having only 8gbs of ram, can cause problems. When your system ram fills up, it starts to use the swap file on the HD for storing data which is fed to the GPU, and this is very slow. This can cause massive FPS drops in games. e.g Again, would be BF1, COD WW2, wolfenstein 2 - each of those games, depending on hardware and other variables will use over 9gb of system ram, sometimes as much as 11gb when gaming. So if you only have 8gb, i'd suggest looking into a 16gb kit as having to little ram can have a big impact.

i dont wanna reach more than 100 fps in AAA games, ill be fine with 60. Probably i will upgrade my gpu when nvidia launch their new graphics cards. I just bough a 144hz monitor to play competitively games like cs go, rainbow six, ow and dota 2. My pc specs: h270, 8gb ram 2400 mhz, evga 650bq.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Well, your system is quite well balanced with your CPU and GPU. You definitely don't have any major bottleneck CPU/GPU wise. But just to be clear, to fully utilise the 1080p 144hz panel you need a more powerful GPU. The 1050ti is just not gonna get you anywhere close to that, apart from some older games, and those less demanding. For new games/AAA you will really struggle to get close to that, or beyond 60-80 FPS/hz. A better CPU will help in certain scenarios, but is not essential just yet.

Another thing to mention is that although your CPU is still very decent, it is a 4c/4t CPU. There are some games out there right now that will use all your CPU processing power, just to keep up with your GPU. e.g BF1 which is okay with a 7500, but can take advantage of more core/threads. So it's worth looking into that down the line.

Can you list your PC specs? in full, ram, mobo, psu too!

I suspect it's one of two things. Your CPU maxing out, or only having 8gbs of ram. Again depending on what game you are playing, having only 8gbs of ram, can cause problems. When your system ram fills up, it starts to use the swap file on the HD for storing data which is fed to the GPU, and this is very slow. This can cause massive FPS drops in games. e.g Again, would be BF1, COD WW2, wolfenstein 2 - each of those games, depending on hardware and other variables will use over 9gb of system ram, sometimes as much as 11gb when gaming. So if you only have 8gb, i'd suggest looking into a 16gb kit as having to little ram can have a big impact.

i dont wanna reach more than 100 fps in AAA games, ill be fine with 60. Probably i will upgrade my gpu when nvidia launch their new graphics cards. I just bough a 144hz monitor to play competitively games like cs go, rainbow six, ow and dota 2. My pc specs: h270, 8gb ram 2400 mhz, evga 650bq.

use MSI afterburner and set up the OSD to monitor your CPU usage, Speed - GPU Usage/Vram/D3d and System ram.

If you find you are touching over 7gb system ram usage, I think you've found your problem!

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

the example you gave above for Rainbow Six is a slight bottleneck.

To me, it seems the system is just reaching it's limitations both CPU wise and ram wise. Your CPU is maxed out, and your prob hitting high system ram usage, both will combine to give FPS drops.

 

[guerrerodota.cm]

Well, your system is quite well balanced with your CPU and GPU. You definitely don't have any major bottleneck CPU/GPU wise. But just to be clear, to fully utilise the 1080p 144hz panel you need a more powerful GPU. The 1050ti is just not gonna get you anywhere close to that, apart from some older games, and those less demanding. For new games/AAA you will really struggle to get close to that, or beyond 60-80 FPS/hz. A better CPU will help in certain scenarios, but is not essential just yet.

Another thing to mention is that although your CPU is still very decent, it is a 4c/4t CPU. There are some games out there right now that will use all your CPU processing power, just to keep up with your GPU. e.g BF1 which is okay with a 7500, but can take advantage of more core/threads. So it's worth looking into that down the line.

Can you list your PC specs? in full, ram, mobo, psu too!

I suspect it's one of two things. Your CPU maxing out, or only having 8gbs of ram. Again depending on what game you are playing, having only 8gbs of ram, can cause problems. When your system ram fills up, it starts to use the swap file on the HD for storing data which is fed to the GPU, and this is very slow. This can cause massive FPS drops in games. e.g Again, would be BF1, COD WW2, wolfenstein 2 - each of those games, depending on hardware and other variables will use over 9gb of system ram, sometimes as much as 11gb when gaming. So if you only have 8gb, i'd suggest looking into a 16gb kit as having to little ram can have a big impact.

i dont wanna reach more than 100 fps in AAA games, ill be fine with 60. Probably i will upgrade my gpu when nvidia launch their new graphics cards. I just bough a 144hz monitor to play competitively games like cs go, rainbow six, ow and dota 2. My pc specs: h270, 8gb ram 2400 mhz, evga 650bq.

use MSI afterburner and set up the OSD to monitor your CPU usage, Speed - GPU Usage/Vram/D3d and System ram.

If you find you are touching over 7gb system ram usage, I think you've found your problem!

the example you gave above for Rainbow Six is a slight bottleneck.

To me, it seems the system is just reaching it's limitations both CPU wise and ram wise. Your CPU is maxed out, and your prob hitting high system ram usage, both will combine to give FPS drops.

Yeah im getting 6gb ram usage, so should i get a better cpu? like the 7700? im gonna buy another 8gb ram for sure.

 

[zyh1987]

at this point, i don't suggest you to upgrade, your CPU is a bit weak for the most demanding AAA titles, my suggestion is to save your money, turn on the graphic setting a bit, and in a few years, upgrade the whole system.

 

[guerrerodota.cm]

at this point, i don't suggest you to upgrade, your CPU is a bit weak for the most demanding AAA titles, my suggestion is to save your money, turn on the graphic setting a bit, and in a few years, upgrade the whole system.

well you right ... what about the ram? 8gb worth it?

 

[zyh1987]

6gb mem usage is fine for a 8gb system. i say you need to worry about your ram usage if its using 7.5GB or more and you noticed a lot of slow downs with swapping memories to virtual memory.

 

[guerrerodota.cm]

6gb mem usage is fine for a 8gb system. i say you need to worry about your ram usage if its using 7.5GB or more and you noticed a lot of slow downs with swapping memories to virtual memory.

i get it, well thanks buddy it was really helpful

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Well, your system is quite well balanced with your CPU and GPU. You definitely don't have any major bottleneck CPU/GPU wise. But just to be clear, to fully utilise the 1080p 144hz panel you need a more powerful GPU. The 1050ti is just not gonna get you anywhere close to that, apart from some older games, and those less demanding. For new games/AAA you will really struggle to get close to that, or beyond 60-80 FPS/hz. A better CPU will help in certain scenarios, but is not essential just yet.

Another thing to mention is that although your CPU is still very decent, it is a 4c/4t CPU. There are some games out there right now that will use all your CPU processing power, just to keep up with your GPU. e.g BF1 which is okay with a 7500, but can take advantage of more core/threads. So it's worth looking into that down the line.

Can you list your PC specs? in full, ram, mobo, psu too!

I suspect it's one of two things. Your CPU maxing out, or only having 8gbs of ram. Again depending on what game you are playing, having only 8gbs of ram, can cause problems. When your system ram fills up, it starts to use the swap file on the HD for storing data which is fed to the GPU, and this is very slow. This can cause massive FPS drops in games. e.g Again, would be BF1, COD WW2, wolfenstein 2 - each of those games, depending on hardware and other variables will use over 9gb of system ram, sometimes as much as 11gb when gaming. So if you only have 8gb, i'd suggest looking into a 16gb kit as having to little ram can have a big impact.

i dont wanna reach more than 100 fps in AAA games, ill be fine with 60. Probably i will upgrade my gpu when nvidia launch their new graphics cards. I just bough a 144hz monitor to play competitively games like cs go, rainbow six, ow and dota 2. My pc specs: h270, 8gb ram 2400 mhz, evga 650bq.

use MSI afterburner and set up the OSD to monitor your CPU usage, Speed - GPU Usage/Vram/D3d and System ram.

If you find you are touching over 7gb system ram usage, I think you've found your problem!

the example you gave above for Rainbow Six is a slight bottleneck.

To me, it seems the system is just reaching it's limitations both CPU wise and ram wise. Your CPU is maxed out, and your prob hitting high system ram usage, both will combine to give FPS drops.

Yeah im getting 6gb ram usage, so should i get a better cpu? like the 7700? im gonna buy another 8gb ram for sure.

getting a 7700 will give you 4 more threads. Its a 4c/8t CPU. It will give you a boost in FPS and extra resources for more demanding games. It, along with 16gb total system ram will improve your experience for sure. But after that, you can only get a GPU upgrade for further improvements.