Question Increased GPU idle and active temps

[Spacekeleton]

Hello, I have noticed that my MSI 3070 Z Trio temperatures suddenly rised up. While it was usually 42 degrees at my current room temp, now it shows 46° with passive cooling. While active, it cools down a bit slower than usual, and heats a bit faster, too. I checked and disabled any applications that could use GPU resources, and power management is set to normal like it always was.

Maybe it started after one of Nvidia or Windows updates. Any idea what it can be?

UPD: Also, I noticed that gpu cools down really slow after reaching 45° mark and lower, or just stops to cool down at all, while usually it reaches 38-40° in minutes( active cooling starts at 55° and stops at 38-40° by default).

 

[Lutfij]

Use DDU, remove all GPU drivers(even non-Nvidia ones) and then manually reinstall the latest GPU driver sourced from Nvidia's support site. You should also make sure your BIOS for your motherboard is the latest version.

 

[Spacekeleton]

Use DDU, remove all GPU drivers(even non-Nvidia ones) and then manually reinstall the latest GPU driver sourced from Nvidia's support site. You should also

Did that, does not seem to affect anything. Could the issue be in new driver itself? Or is it something wrong with GPU physically? I have it for 2 years now.

 

[ChumP]

I don't see any of the temps you mentioned a concern. The GPU cools down slower when it reaches 45C probably because of the zero fan mode, 45C being the cutoff point, when the fans stop completely.

Have you actually tested under load? What are the temperatures(gpu and hotspot) during benchmarking with something like heaven, furmark?

You can always set a more aggressive fan curve in afterburner if the default one is too relaxed. Zero fan mode can also be overridden from there, but I don't see the point as that feature lengthens the lifespan of your fans.

 

[Spacekeleton]

I don't see any of the temps you mentioned a concern. The GPU cools down slower when it reaches 45C probably because of the zero fan mode, 45C being the cutoff point, when the fans stop completely.

Have you actually tested under load? What are the temperatures(gpu and hotspot) during benchmarking with something like heaven, furmark?

You can always set a more aggressive fan curve in afterburner if the default one is too relaxed. Zero fan mode can also be overridden from there, but I don't see the point as that feature lengthens the lifespan of your fans.

I do not make benchmark tests, as I have no data from them from past and they will not show me any change in system, as I never did them, I am just checking with games I usually play.

I noticed that maybe the slower cooling was one particular game problem (which also changed it's setting by itself, so maybe it's exclusive issue), with another one fans were cooling almost as usual. Though the fact is idle temps still somehow grew from usual 42 to 45-46.

And as I noted, cutoff point is at 40° at current room temperature, fans just keep spinning with that particular game. And some heavier AAAs, of course.

I just do not know if it is a sign of wearing off or a problem with current driver version.

 

[ChumP]

Again those idle temps are not a concern. Sure, you don't do benchmark tests, but we actually need to know what temps you have when the card is at 100%... you can use the most demanding game you have, doesn't matter.

Temps at idle are mostly irrelevant, especially if they are in the range you mentioned.

A degrading GPU won't cause higher temps.

High temps are usually a result of: poor airflow in your case, dust build up or the card needing a thermal paste change.

So again, for me to assess and help, if temps are an issue, I need some numbers with the card being in full load.

 

[Spacekeleton]

Again those idle temps are not a concern. Sure, you don't do benchmark tests, but we actually need to know what temps you have when the card is at 100%... you can use the most demanding game you have, doesn't matter.

Temps at idle are mostly irrelevant, especially if they are in the range you mentioned.

A degrading GPU won't cause higher temps.

High temps are usually a result of: poor airflow in your case, dust build up or the card needing a thermal paste change.

So again, for me to assess and help, if temps are an issue, I need some numbers with the card being in full load.

I have good airflow case and on hard loads like 90-100% it would go like 65-70 degrees at most, maybe it can go to 75 for prolonged 100% load gaming. May be a little dust since I cleaned it year ago maybe, but nothing really bad since I also have dust filters and try to keep room clean .

 

[ChumP]

To me those temperatures sound completely normal.

As I mentioned in my previous comments if you want lower temperatures(even at idle) you can always use afterburner to modify the fan curve.

If the card is out of warranty and the thermal paste wasn't ever changed, you will get some degrees of by doing a repaste. Do that if you're confident in dissassembling the card though.

 

[Spacekeleton]

To me those temperatures sound completely normal.

As I mentioned in my previous comments if you want lower temperatures(even at idle) you can always use afterburner to modify the fan curve.

If the card is out of warranty and the thermal paste wasn't ever changed, you will get some degrees of by doing a repaste. Do that if you're confident in dissassembling the card though.

I have 3 more years of warranty, so no touching it for now.

 

[Unolocogringo]

Every card I have ever owned went up a couple degrees after a few years of use.
Over time the heat sinks/back side of fan blades get coated with a very fine dust coating (It gets through the filters) that does not just blow off with compressed air and a paint brush in the areas that you can reach.
But overall your temperatures are fine.

 

[Spacekeleton]

Every card I have ever owned went up a couple degrees after a few years of use.
Over time the heat sinks/back side of fan blades get coated with a very fine dust coating (It gets through the filters) that does not just blow off with compressed air and a paint brush in the areas that you can reach.
But overall your temperatures are fine.

So how to clean off those?

 

[Unolocogringo]

You have to disassemble the card.
But since your temperatures are no where near critical, I would advise against it.
For that you need paste ,proper pads,and citrus based coil cleaner for the heat sink.
Then I use fake silk/plastic plant aerosol cleaner for the fan blades.
But you need at least one or two days to let everything dry before re-assembly.