[SOLVED] Input lag which is getting worse everyday.

[agonydear]

Guys, I really need help as I'm getting sick of this. My PC recently started having a very bad input lag (mostly mouse) without any reason. The thing is, at first it's ok, then the more the game goes on, the laggier it gets until it gets nearly unplayable, because my mouse responds soo slowly. The thing is, I did notice this being a thing before but it would get only A BIT laggier and then stay that way. Now, it gets so laggy it's unbelievable. My PC is beefy enough for games like BF3 yet there is such a bad lag it's killing me. I've tried it all, even Windows reinstall several times with different drivers. Temps are ok, nothing is throttling, nothing is overclocked. Commands like "disable platform clock" and such help only with the mouse smoothness, but lag is always there and gets worse as the game goes on, it's driving me crazy and I can't understand what's going on. Is my hardware going bad? Thanks.

550Watt Modular PSU
Z97M Pro4 Motherboard
i7 4790k
16GB 2400Mhz RAM Dual Channel
RX580 8GB
Windows 10 Pro 1803 (newer versions are giving me other problems I can't live with)
SSD 120GB + another 120GB SSD + 240HDD + 300GB HDD

 

[boju]

If performance remains the same, ie, fps, temps, cpu usage not excessive, not running out of ram etc, id try focus on the mouse itself.

Have you looked at the track sensor for any signs of debris or fine hair?

Have you tried a different surface, mouse pad?

Have you tried replugging the mouse or using a different usb port?

Tried a different mouse?

Using mouse software? Try without.

What sort of mouse is it?

 

[boju]

What problems is the newer Win10 builds giving you?

 

[agonydear]

What problems is the newer Win10 builds giving you?

Hey, thanks for your replies. The problems are more like visual ones, but some newer ones were giving me stutter as well. Right now I've updated (clean install) to the newest Windows 10 but the issue remains absolutely the same. Also, one thing to note is that for example when I'm looking at the sky in the game, mouse gets very responsive ,but when I look down at the map, the laggier the mouse gets, so it depends on how graphically intensive the scene is. If there's ain't much going on, mouse gets faster. This issue have been there always but it's that it started getting worse everyday, suddenly. I'm testing every scenario and still can't find what's causing it. I've also found one thread that suggested it's because of the poor cable management in the case or just power cable going bad. Overall suggested to look for cables and I'm going to try that soon.

My mouse is Redragon M711 Cobra FPS. I've already tried without the software being on but again this problem has been there before this mouse as well so there's something else. It really might be my hardware, just thought maybe someone would confirm this.

 

[boju]

What Hz is your monitor? Looking up at the sky or ground for that matter is less demanding and would assume an increase in frame rates. Could explain why input lag is less noticeable as fps increases. Monitor fps with Afterburner and see.

Muck around with game graphic settings and vsync options in Adrenaline or game and see if limiting frame rate helps input consistency.

 

[agonydear]

What Hz is your monitor? Looking up at the sky or ground for that matter is less demanding and would assume an increase in frame rates. Could explain why input lag is less noticeable as fps increases. Monitor fps with Afterburner and see.

Muck around with game graphic settings and vsync options in Adrenaline or game and see if limiting frame rate helps input consistency.

My monitor is a 1080p 75Hz Freesync one. I always had my FPS locked, but even when it’s unlocked it still lags with higher FPS. So it’s not like input lag decreases with higher FPS (although it should), it’s more like when there is too much going on on the screen, my mouse gets stupidly slow while FPS remains high enough (basically never drops below 75). This is such a pain in the ass. Before I had a small monitor with low res and the issue was much less noticeable, then I moved to 1080p and it got very noticeable, it’s like either my CPU or GPU can’t handle the game even though FPS is still high enough. I’m already planning on looking for voltage settings as I’ve noticed that my mobo applies a bit too high voltages to the CPU, maybe that is the issue. Really hard issue to fix, I keep trying different things and the outcome is always the same and I am so tired of this, it’s ridiculous.

EDIT: and to clarify, lowering graphic settings doesn’t help at all. One thing I can say for sure: when minimizing and maximizing the game or toggling ANY graphic settings, it gets fast for about 5 seconds and then gets slow again (applies to any game which is kinda strange and funny). And rarely but sometimes it happens when my mouse gets fast all of a sudden, input lag is gone and then after about 5-10 seconds it gets slow again. I tried to monitor what exactly changes in terms of temps and stuff in that moment and nothing changes, everything stays the same, it just randomly chooses to get fast for a small period of time.

 

[boju]

Check cpu usage as well.

How much space is left on your OS drive?

Can ya run Userbench please and post link to the results page.

 

[agonydear]

Check cpu usage as well.

How much space is left on your OS drive?

Can ya run Userbench please and post link to the results page.

CPU usage is between 30-40% in BF4 and similar in BF3 as well. My C drive has 25GB of free space left but can that be the case? I doubt it because I remember having this problem when I had more space.

I will try to post Userbench score when I'll have more free time, thank you.

 

[boju]

I agree, probably not the OS drive. 25GB should be enough albeit wouldn't use much more on it though to allow space for pagefile and Trim to do their things.

If cpu checks out, as in, not turbo throttling in Userbench, or anything else that might stand out, it could be the psu. What make and model is it?

Say 110w for the cpu & turbo, 300w for the gpu, 5w for 2x8 GB ram, 30w or so for the drives. So that's roughly around 445w. Psu's rarely operate at peak output, so depending on it's 80% efficiency rating and quality of the unit, could be much less. The psu doesn't need to be showing symptoms of shutdowns/restarts for it to still affect components. Last resort might be to try another psu, from a friend or perhaps a PC store troubleshoot service.

If you do decide to give another psu a crack, remember that modular power cables can't be re-used, they're not standardised so keep to the original cables the psu belongs with. Too many people make the mistake using a cable from another psu or bought separately not knowing pinouts can be different in the wiring. Ie, positive and negative in different spots frying the component it's connected to. Goes for any cable providing power, Sata, PCIe etc.

 

[agonydear]

I agree, probably not the OS drive. 25GB should be enough albeit wouldn't use much more on it though to allow space for pagefile and Trim to do their things.

If cpu checks out, as in, not turbo throttling in Userbench, or anything else that might stand out, it could be the psu. What make and model is it?

Say 110w for the cpu & turbo, 300w for the gpu, 5w for 2x8 GB ram, 30w or so for the drives. So that's roughly around 445w. Psu's rarely operate at peak output, so depending on it's 80% efficiency rating and quality of the unit, could be much less. The psu doesn't need to be showing symptoms of shutdowns/restarts for it to still affect components. Last resort might be to try another psu, from a friend or perhaps a PC store troubleshoot service.

If you do decide to give another psu a crack, remember that modular power cables can't be re-used, they're not standardised so keep to the original cables the psu belongs with. Too many people make the mistake using a cable from another psu or bought separately not knowing pinouts can be different in the wiring. Ie, positive and negative in different spots frying the component it's connected to. Goes for any cable providing power, Sata, PCIe etc.

I actually agree with you. Rn I don't remember which PSU it is but it is indeed a modular one and I do use some cables that aren't the ones from my PSU and I did think about that. It may be my PSU creating all the problems indeed, given the fact that after going from GTX1060 to RX580 it only got laggier, RX580 consumes more power so it may be that PSU is choking.

Thanks for your answers, I don't have enough money for a new PSU right now so it seems like I have to hang on this problem for a little while, but when I'll finally try a different one I may update this thread if I won't forget. Thanks again and I will mark your answer as the best one.

 

[Jamzio]

Did you find a fix for this ? , I’m having the same problem , tried almost everything you did aswell still no luck