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This probably is not a legitimate Eternium Man victory (although is a
legitimate Insane Eternium Man victory).

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| ']' are ore. I feel a certain tension from the west.

Iem St:19 Le:12 Wi:25 Dx:29 To:16 Ch:10 Ap:19 Ma:21 Pe:19 LN
DV/PV:108/3 H:0(564) P:310(310) Exp: 50/33598630 SMC Sp: 146
Coward
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In a sense, this completes two "impossible" challenges in one ;-)

Eternium man is the famous challenge of going to Small Cave and
staying here until XP 50. (The guidebook does not say what should
I do afterwards. Should I proceed to finish a normal game???)

Insane Man was a name suggested to winning a game in the
"you have run out of luck" mode, which is ADOM's protection
against savefile hacking. I have assumed that I have to
trigger it just after entering Drakalor Chain (and I am allowed
to do it by savefile hacking).

This mode has the following effects:

- all your inventory is cursed (one time effect, if you find
something later, it won't be cursed);

- your luck seems to be reduced (it seems that I had more trouble
with finding secret doors than normally);

- sometimes "your equipment suddenly disappears" and is teleported
randomly all over the level; this is buggy, since sometimes
it happens in wilderness. I wonder if it is possible to lose
the Fire Orb or the mark of failed paragon that way;

- monsters get bonus experience, and become practically invincible
(IIRC Twinge's screenshot says they have over 2000000000 HP);

but wait, there are also good effects...

- if you manage to defeat a monster somehow, you'll probably get
insane experience for it. For sacrificing, you sometimes get values
like 10 millions. But only rarely, usually you get 1, sometimes
something like 6000 or 200000.

(I have made a backup after winning and checked if she is able to use
the Monk's Instakill against some goblin, but it seemed impossible.
But maybe I just have not tried enough. I have never played high level
monks before, so I don't know what I should expect from this power.)

I have created a script to automatically hack a savefile in a way
that should not have any effects other than triggering insanity
(by changing unused characters of PC name). After about 1000
characters failed, I have also automatized character creation.

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Background Information
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Name: Iem Race: female Dark Elf Class: Monk
Eye color: blue Hair color: white Complexion: black
Height: 5'2" Weight: 103 pounds
Age: 137 (grown-up)
Star sign: Tree Birthday: 22/Tree (day 352 of the year)

| history snipped

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Inventory
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Total weight: 69 stones Carrying capacity: 2310 stones

| quite possible that I have also completed Carbon Fibre by the way ;-)
| (And also Brass Man and the challenge of using only rocks as weapons,
| and never eating)

Body : N robe [+0, +1] [60s]

| uncursed because I have pressed '_' instead of 'O' to end the game.

Boots : cursed sandals [+0, +0] [6s]
Missiles : cursed spider bread [3s]

| That's the reason why I switched to dark elf. The gnome nearly starved.
| (Although he was a mindcrafter, not a monk)


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Stuff
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Total weight: 0 stones Carrying capacity: 2310 stones

(nothing)


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Weapon Skills
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Thrown rocks & clubs 1 +2 +1 +0 basic 12

| for attention; all other 0

Damage caused with your melee weapons:
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Right hand: +55 bonus to hit, 1d58+11 damage


Damage caused with your missile weapons:
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Ammunition: 1, base range: 2, +28 bonus to hit, 1d2+2 damage

| hey, I think you can't throw food for damage

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Skills
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Climbing ............. 82 (great) [+1d3]
First aid ............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Haggling ............. 75 (great) [+1d3]
Listening ............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Alertness ............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Athletics ............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Concentration ........100 (superb) [+2d4]
Dodge ................100 (superb) [+1d5]
Find weakness ........ 82 (great) [+1d3]
Healing ..............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Literacy .............100 (superb) [+2d4]
Stealth ..............100 (superb) [+1d5]

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Her achievements during her adventures:
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Iem, the dark elven monk, sacrificed herself to Elderon.
She scored 2564277 points and advanced to level 50.
She survived for 0 years, 1 day, 5 hours, 9 minutes and 49 seconds (1077
turns).
Iem visited 2 places.
Her strength score was modified by +5 during her career.
Her learning score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her willpower score was modified by +3 during her career.
Her dexterity score was modified by +6 during her career.
Her toughness score was modified by +2 during her career.
Her charisma score was modified by +2 during her career.
Her appearance score was modified by +4 during her career.
Her mana score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her perception score was modified by +1 during her career.

| Gaining levels increases attributes

She ended her adventuring life in a small cave.
15 monsters perished under her attacks.
She possessed the following intrinsic:
She was lucky.
She had the following talents: Affinity with Rocks & Clubs, Careful,
Defensive Fighter, Dodger, Greased Lightning, Hardy, Healthy, Immune to
Pain, Iron Skin, Long Stride, Porter, Potent Aura, Quick, Strong Thrower,
Tough Skin, Very Careful, Very Hardy, Very Quick.
She had a final speed score of 146 (final base speed: 146).

| What's that? Monks gain speed from levelling?

She was not particularly religious.

| Costs of prayers are greatly increased while out of luck. I have
| gained enough piety to be lucky. Praying without any saccing
| summons demons/slayers/solars right away.

She asked for 1 divine intervention.
She was lawfully aligned.
She was slightly tainted by Chaos.

The following monsters were vanquished:
1 giant rat
2 goblins
1 goblin rockthrower
2 hobgoblins
1 jackal
4 kobolds
1 large bat
2 orcs
1 rabid dog

| Quite a good list of level 1 creatures... rats, giant frogs, gremlins,
| and skeletons are missing from it. (One char did the Frog Quest BTW)

Statistics from other tries:

This challenge is probably easier than the normal Eternium Man, but
it is not very easy. Only 24 characters from about 3000 mindcrafters
and 1300 monks managed to reach the altar, sac and advance to a level
higher than 1. (This was not that scary, they died pretty quickly. I
started with mindcrafters, but then decided that monks are better
suited for this challenge.)

Monsters who were spawned when PC entered the SMC hit for something like
20 hitpoints. Monsters generated later were able to kill with one hit.

It seems that surges of power are rare, I remember only 5. And no pools.

Here are the ones that were less successful (snipped some details):

| 1 2564277 L50 dark elven monk (F). 33598630 xps. 1077
| She sacrificed herself to Elderon in a small cave.
| 2 1544075 L31 dark elven monk (F). 6328995 xps. 540
| She was aged to death by a ghost in a small cave.

Actually, she was hit for about 1000 hit points, but did not seem
to be aged to death. I don't know why it says so.

| 3 1201487 L23 dark elven monk (F). 1780979 xps. 1579
| She was killed by a chaos rat in a small cave.

Some stupid rats walk into corruption traps, and then breed like
bacterias. Cannot sac them.

| 4 1063440 L26 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 2578433 xps. 905
| She was shot by a barbarian in a small cave.
| 5 1057607 L45 dark elven monk (F). 19225223 xps. 2149
| She was aged to death by a ghost bat in a small cave.
| 6 938118 L37 dark elven monk (F). 12176885 xps. 409
| She was killed by a goblin in a small cave.

After gaining enough experience, she proceeded to make more space for
herself around the altar. At first, I felt quite happy that her kick
opened a tension room of goblins... But most of them managed to evade
the altar, and she was quickly overwhelmed. A mindcrafter should have
no problem here, with EotM and CW.

| 7 916207 L42 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 12580206 xps. 708
| She was killed by a chaos rat in a small cave.
| 8 716475 L36 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 9282947 xps. 1110
| She was killed by a large spider in a small cave.

How did a large spider (or a giant rat) fit in a small cave?

| 9 566183 L33 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 7304866 xps. 271
| She was consumed by a torrent of acid in a small cave.

I don't know what was the reason, but I've never seen a vortex that was
going to kill me. They take like 3000 hitpoints, and have insane radius.

| 10 393096 L31 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 5008592 xps. 264
| She was killed by an orc skeleton in a small cave.

Mindcrafters are helpless against these. (Unless they reach level 40,
or even better 45.) Monks are able to enlarge the room using their
secret kicks, and then run around with their 600 energy when a skeleton
comes. They also have the Healing skill.

| 11 314953 L32 gnomish mindcrafter (M). 3995473 xps. 688
| He was killed by a rock thrown by a troll king in a small
| cave.

My first partially successful character.

| 12 212383 L27 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 2673837 xps. 345
| She was consumed by a torrent of acid in a small cave.
| 13 37178 L19 dark elven mindcrafter (M). 416968 xps. 476
| He was killed by a zombie in a small cave.
| 14 22793 L17 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 243792 xps. 222
| She was killed by a kobold in a small cave.
| 15 22470 L17 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 231812 xps. 166
| She was shot by a kobold in a small cave.
| 16 21311 L17 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 224740 xps. 355
| She was killed by a large spider in a small cave.
| 17 20252 L17 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 238151 xps. 42
| She was killed by a rat in a small cave.
| 18 20197 L16 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 211766 xps. 170
| She was scorched by a fiery explosion in a small cave.
| 19 18748 L15 dark elven monk (F). 207508 xps. 266
| She was killed by a cutpurse skeleton in a small cave.
| 20 14717 L14 dark elven monk (F). 153225 xps. 250
| She was killed by a goblin berserker in a small cave.
| 21 12320 L15 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 126275 xps. 338
| She was killed by a rock thrown by a female goblin
| rockthrower in a small cave.
| 22 10717 L14 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 99438 xps. 50
| She was scorched by a fiery explosion in a small cave.
| 23 4454 L11 dark elven mindcrafter (F). 23132 xps. 28
| She was killed by a goblin rockthrower skeleton in a small
| cave.
| 24 2737 L8 dark elven mindcrafter (M). 9586 xps. 100
| He was killed by a giant rat in a small cave.
 
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Varkoill <postersname@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> DV/PV:108/3 H:0(564) P:310(310) Exp: 50/33598630 SMC Sp: 146


> Insane Man was a name suggested to winning a game in the
> "you have run out of luck" mode, which is ADOM's protection
> against savefile hacking.
>(...)
> but wait, there are also good effects...

> - if you manage to defeat a monster somehow, you'll probably get
> insane experience for it. For sacrificing, you sometimes get values
> like 10 millions. But only rarely, usually you get 1, sometimes
> something like 6000 or 200000.

Aha, so you kept sacrificing monsters untill three of them
yielded 10 million points. Clever :)

brojek.