Inside Intel's CPU Packaging Factory: From Wafer to Chip

[Admin]

We visited Intel's Malaysian campuses, where it performs leading-edge packaging on its latest and greatest processors.

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[Roland Of Gilead]

"If successful, those advanced nodes will grant Intel the lead over TSMC for the first time in years, " - so, the reasoning being here, that TSMC will be standing by scratching their arses during this same period. And thus Intel will overtake them!? Okay.

 

[PaulAlcorn]

TSMC N3, And Challenges Ahead

A Look At TSMC N3 Process

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Intel will match TSMCs std cell density with the Intel 4 process by the end of this year. After that, roadmap projections indicate Intel will pull ahead.

 

[Elusive Ruse]

Nice one, @PaulAlcorn, must have been a dream tour!

 

[jkflipflop98]

"If successful, those advanced nodes will grant Intel the lead over TSMC for the first time in years, " - so, the reasoning being here, that TSMC will be standing by scratching their arses during this same period. And thus Intel will overtake them!? Okay.

No, you just inserted your own thoughts. No one is saying TSMC is going to stand still. We're saying they aren't going to be able to keep up.

 

[vertuallinsanity]

Intel utilized TMSC as a stand-in *partner* during a period of machinery teething issues.

The intention of that partnership, for certain products, was always temporary in nature or Intel would have gone fab-less similar to AMD. Intel utilized TSMC to prevent bring-to-market delay while simultaneously reworking their fab processes and equipment to a viable state.

The article seems to imply TSMC makes their own processors or gpus and they're in direct competiton with Intel. They don't and they arent.

TSMC and/or Intel may trade process enhancement "blows" but Intel makes Intel CPUs for Intel and TSMC makes 'em for "anybody".

The article implication could apply to Apple, NVidia, AMD or others competing with Intel on similar node products.

Intel will continue to work with TSMC on GPUs and other product lines deemed fiscally feasible. Intel and TSMC are still partners.

There is no way anyone from Tom's hardware was allowed a tour of Intel's new ish.

Fact..

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

No, you just inserted your own thoughts. No one is saying TSMC is going to stand still. We're saying they aren't going to be able to keep up.

No, you just inserted your own thoughts, in relation to my post!

If you didn't notice, this article is one sided! I did certainly enjoy the tour and article in relation to Intel's tech, but there is zero context as to why TSMC 'might' fall behind.

You are right, no one is saying TSMC is gonna fall behind, but without context how is a reader supposed to know that? By checking the forums posts for an addendum article that gives the reasons why TSMC might fall behind? A bit of balance to illustrate these comments would help.

 

[td47]

It would be interesting to know how Intel prevents IP and manufacturing methods/secrets from being exfiltrated from the Chengdu facility in China - given that country's penchant f or stealing and copying the Western Tech to try to catch up!