Question Installing NVME M.2 SSD

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ymi04060513

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Looking for a new SSD for my brother after his seems to have died from “A disk read error occurred”. These are the specs he is rocking with; Nvidia RTX 3070 GPU, Ryzen 9 5900x CPU, Tomahawk B450 PRO MAX MOBO, 32Gbs of DDR4 Dominator RAM, and the SSD that seems to have died was a Samsung 860 EVO 1 TB SSD, any recommendations on what he should purpose to keep up with his rig but not break the bank?

From everything I've read online, it kind of seems like most, if not all, SSDs are destined to brick at some point, is this true?
 
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Where are you located, what is your budget and what is your preferred site for purchase? If you intend to migrate the drive to another platform, then you can look at PCIe4.0 drives but they will effectively run at PCIe 3.0 speeds due to the slot. If you intend to stick to this current platform and not upgrade anything on it, then stick to a PCIe 3.0 drive.
 
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Lutfij said:
Where are you located, what is your budget and what is your preferred site for purchase? If you intend to migrate the drive to another platform, then you can look at PCIe4.0 drives but they will effectively run at PCIe 3.0 speeds due to the slot. If you intend to stick to this current platform and not upgrade anything on it, then stick to a PCIe 3.0 drive.
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Preferred site of choice is Amazon, what do you mean by migrate the drive to another platform? If you mean copying stuff over, I don't think that'd be necessary, I have no idea what the damage to the SSD is, I don't know if its just a boot issue or an entire like kerplut scenario. I've been told to replace SSD, reinstall windows, and then basically go from there, I don't think that having everything basically factory reset is too big of an issue.
 
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35below0 said:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2V...-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpk002t0c101
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QQ...tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds100t3x0c

Samsung is the best, MP44L one of the more reliable among the cheaper alternatives. WD and Crucial are also good.
Read reviews for those 4 and maybe other drives you see recommended. For example Samsung 980 or 970 Pro or Evo are all good choices too.

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/i...ie_40_x4&A=800000000000,24000000000000&page=1
Beware the cheap ones.
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Awesome thank you. IU think im going to go with the "Samsung 990 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive"
 
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35below0 said:
Very wise. It's fast and reliable.
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I dont really know what the issue is with the current SSD, but, do you think that I’d be able to throw the new SSD in as the primary ssd, and then use the current one as a secondary storage? I dont know if the issue exists in just booting or if the entire thing is fried.
 
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ymi04060513 said:
I dont really know what the issue is with the current SSD, but, do you think that I’d be able to throw the new SSD in as the primary ssd, and then use the current one as a secondary storage? I dont know if the issue exists in just booting or if the entire thing is fried.
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Primary as in the OS drive? And all the apps and important games?

Well, it's an NVMe drive and slightly faster since it's in the CPU-side M.2 slot. It would make sense to make it a primary drive, esp since the other one is not currently confirmed as alive.

They don't "compete" for slots/ports. If you're able to recover the 860 Evo, of course you should use the storage, just be careful not to keep very important files on it. I would trust it enough to install Steam games on it because they can be reinstalled easily and the save files are usually on the cloud. But maybe not so much photos or more valuable files.
 
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ymi04060513 said:
I dont really know what the issue is with the current SSD, but, do you think that I’d be able to throw the new SSD in as the primary ssd, and then use the current one as a secondary storage? I dont know if the issue exists in just booting or if the entire thing is fried.
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Have you tried 3 things with the old drive.
1 use a different power connector from the power supply cable.
2 tried a different SATA cable.
3 plugging it into a different SATA port on the motherboard.

For a SSD being dead it can happen to any drive you buy from 1 second after you connect it to 15 years or longer.

About 8 years or so ago I bought about the cheapest one I could find just to put games on a PNY 480GB CS1211 if I remember the numbers right. It's still working.

EDIT CS1311
 
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Zerk2012 said:
Have you tried 3 things with the old drive.
1 use a different power connector from the power supply cable.
2 tried a different SATA cable.
3 plugging it into a different SATA port on the motherboard.

For a SSD being dead it can happen to any drive you buy from 1 second after you connect it to 15 years or longer.

About 8 years or so ago I bought about the cheapest one I could find just to put games on a PNY 480GB CS1211 if I remember the numbers right. It's still working.

EDIT CS1311
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Gotcha okay, so the thing now is that I have the NVME drive, so ive read that i just disconnect the ssd and install the nvme, but i need a fresh install of windows on a USB when i boot it up with the NVME for the first time.. is this true? If i do need a install of windows on a usb, where do i find this, and can i do this from my computer since his is unable to boot?
 
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ymi04060513 said:
Gotcha okay, so the thing now is that I have the NVME drive, so ive read that i just disconnect the ssd and install the nvme, but i need a fresh install of windows on a USB when i boot it up with the NVME for the first time.. is this true? If i do need a install of windows on a usb, where do i find this, and can i do this from my computer since his is unable to boot?
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Well, storage drives don't come with an OS, so you'll need to install it.

All you need is an 8GB or larger USB thumb drive and run the Media Creation Tool you can get for Windows 11 or for Windows 10. This obviously requires another computer that works. Then you just plug the thumb drive in the computer and it should boot into the Windows installer.
 
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hotaru.hino said:
Well, storage drives don't come with an OS, so you'll need to install it.

All you need is an 8GB or larger USB thumb drive and run the Media Creation Tool you can get for Windows 11 or for Windows 10. This obviously requires another computer that works. Then you just plug the thumb drive in the computer and it should boot into the Windows installer.
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Okay yes I've done half of this, and then halfway through the installation it tells me I have to insert a DISK, and then subsequently download an ISO, but I really don't know what this means. I have the USB stick, I start the download, and then I get to this step (directly from the Windows media creation tool step-by-step guide):

"Select which media you want to use:
USB flash drive. Attach a blank USB flash drive with at least 8GB of space. Any content on the flash drive will be deleted.
ISO file. Save an ISO file to your PC, which you can use to create a DVD. After the file is downloaded, you can go to location where the file is saved, or select Open DVD burner, and follow the instructions to burn the file to a DVD. For more info about using an ISO file, see Additional methods for using the ISO file to install Windows 10 section below."

First of all I have no idea what an ISO is, where to find a download for one, which to choose, and when I follow the hyperlink on the page it just redirects me back to the first link, shedding no new light.

It also says I need to insert a disk, I don't have a disk slot in my pc, nor does my brother, if thats what thats even refering to.
 
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ymi04060513 said:
Okay yes I've done half of this, and then halfway through the installation it tells me I have to insert a DISK, and then subsequently download an ISO, but I really don't know what this means. I have the USB stick, I start the download, and then I get to this step (directly from the Windows media creation tool step-by-step guide):

"Select which media you want to use:
USB flash drive. Attach a blank USB flash drive with at least 8GB of space. Any content on the flash drive will be deleted.
ISO file. Save an ISO file to your PC, which you can use to create a DVD. After the file is downloaded, you can go to location where the file is saved, or select Open DVD burner, and follow the instructions to burn the file to a DVD. For more info about using an ISO file, see Additional methods for using the ISO file to install Windows 10 section below."

First of all I have no idea what an ISO is, where to find a download for one, which to choose, and when I follow the hyperlink on the page it just redirects me back to the first link, shedding no new light.

It also says I need to insert a disk, I don't have a disk slot in my pc, nor does my brother, if thats what thats even refering to.
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ymi04060513 said:
Okay yes I've done half of this, and then halfway through the installation it tells me I have to insert a DISK, and then subsequently download an ISO, but I really don't know what this means. I have the USB stick, I start the download, and then I get to this step (directly from the Windows media creation tool step-by-step guide):

"Select which media you want to use:
USB flash drive. Attach a blank USB flash drive with at least 8GB of space. Any content on the flash drive will be deleted.
ISO file. Save an ISO file to your PC, which you can use to create a DVD. After the file is downloaded, you can go to location where the file is saved, or select Open DVD burner, and follow the instructions to burn the file to a DVD. For more info about using an ISO file, see Additional methods for using the ISO file to install Windows 10 section below."

First of all I have no idea what an ISO is, where to find a download for one, which to choose, and when I follow the hyperlink on the page it just redirects me back to the first link, shedding no new light.

It also says I need to insert a disk, I don't have a disk slot in my pc, nor does my brother, if thats what thats even refering to.
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Now everytime I put this USB back into my computer I cant do anything with it and I get a message telling me to "please insert a disk into USB Drive (Y:)" i've tried changing the USB's drive letter
 
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USAFRet said:
Try a different USB port, or different flash drive.
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Okay awesome, just used the USB and installed the drive, everything booted up good, configured his personalization stuff, and now it seems to be just another fresh wiped PC. Only thing I want to make sure of before labeling this as solved is his disk management page. I don't want to pull out the USB and have that be an issuee for the next time he boots. DOes this all look good, can I pull out the USB with his boot stuff safely on the new drive or do I have to do somethign else now?

https://ibb.co/0GptVJT
 
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USAFRet said:
Assuming you are talking about Disk 1, Removable....yes.
Put it in the desired system, and follow the rest of that tutorial for the install.
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Okay sweet, I removed Disk 1, and then finished installing a couple of quick things, and then natrually, restarted the PC. As the PC was beginning the shutdown process, I have gotten a message: Getting Windows Ready . . . Don't turn off", I've read online I should just let this sit for 2-3 hours, is this wise? Is this natural for a fresh wiped PC or should I be concerned somethinhg else is the matter.
 
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ymi04060513 said:
Okay sweet, I removed Disk 1, and then finished installing a couple of quick things, and then natrually, restarted the PC. As the PC was beginning the shutdown process, I have gotten a message: Getting Windows Ready . . . Don't turn off", I've read online I should just let this sit for 2-3 hours, is this wise? Is this natural for a fresh wiped PC or should I be concerned somethinhg else is the matter.
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You should let it sit until it is done.
5 minutes, 3 hours, whatever.
 
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