Question Integrated graphics versus dedicated graphics card ?

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Hello,

1. If the CPU has no integrated graphics, can you see anything on the screen (e.g. BIOS) if the dedicated graphics card is faulty?

2. If the CPU does have integrated graphics and the integrated graphics chip is faulty, can you see anything on the screen (e.g. BIOS) if the dedicated graphics card is faulty?

3. If the CPU has integrated graphics and the integrated graphics chip is faulty, can you see anything on the screen (e.g. BIOS) if the dedicated graphics card is in good working condition?

4. If the CPU has integrated graphics and you install a good working condition dedicated graphics card, does the motherboard automatically use the dedicated graphics and ignore the integrated graphics?

5. If the CPU has integrated graphics and you have been using a good working condition dedicated graphics card, then suddenly one day the dedicated graphics card becomes faulty, does the motherboard automatically use the integrated graphics and ignore the dedicated graphics card? If yes does it mean the user might not even notice the dedicated graphics card has become faulty, since the user still sees images on the monitor?

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6. [AMD ryzen 5700g without graphics card] vs [AMD ryzen 5600x with a graphics card], which one is faster? If they are same speed, which one more value for money or pros/cons?

7. If the integrated graphics card in the 5700g is faulty, does it mean I would need to change the whole ryzen 5700g chip?

8. If the integrated graphics card in the 5700g is faulty, can I add a dedicated graphics card on the motherboard and continue use the 5700g without removing it?

9. I was thinking if the motherboard sense that there is a dedicated graphics card it would use it first and ignore the integrated graphics card in the 5700g cpu chip, is it correct?

10. Correct me if I am wrong, I am a noob, I was thinking using a dedicated graphics card on motherboard is better because graphics card would become faulty faster than the cpu chip. It is easier to change a dedicated graphics card (just plug out/plug in) than changing a cpu chip (I assume must change the whole cpu chip even if only the integrated graphics is faulty?)? (I don't know how to apply/remove thermal paste, metal spring hook to remove/insert cpu chip, remove/insert cooler fan)

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1. If the CPU chip comes without integrated graphics card, can you see anything on the screen (e.g. BIOS) if the independent dedicated graphics card is faulty?
nope, nothing to process the image, thus no output.
2. If the CPU chip comes with integrated graphics card and the integrated graphics card is faulty, can you see anything on the screen (e.g. BIOS) if the independent dedicated graphics card is faulty?
nope, you have to plug the hdmi or whatever cable youre using into the motherboard or else you won't get output if its connected to the dedicated card.
. If the CPU chip comes with integrated graphics card and you install a good working condition independent dedicated graphics card, does the motherboard automatic use the independent dedicated graphics and ignore the integrated graphics card?
mostly yes, depends on the motherboard. you can configure this option in bios
If the CPU chip comes with integrated graphics card and you have been using a good working condition independent dedicated graphics card, suddenly one day the independent dedicated graphics card becomes faulty does the motherboard automatic use the integrated graphics and ignore the independent dedicated graphics card? If yes does it mean the user might not even notice the independent dedicated graphics card has become faulty, since the user still see images on the monitor?
NO, the cable is plugged into the dedicated card, so output from the dedicated card is the only thing that will show. if you plug the cable to the motherboards hdmi output, you'll see the output from the integrated GPU. keep in mind that integrated GPU outputs it's video through the motherboards hdmi port, while the dedicated GPU outputs through it's own hdmi ports (or other video port that it uses)

based on the logic of the video out of integrated GPU is sent through the motherboards hdmi out, and the dedicated GPUs video out is sent through it's own hdmi out, and NOT the motherboards hdmi port, you can answer your questions.
 
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nope, nothing to process the image, thus no output.

nope, you have to plug the hdmi or whatever cable youre using into the motherboard or else you won't get output if its connected to the dedicated card.

mostly yes, depends on the motherboard. you can configure this option in bios

NO, the cable is plugged into the dedicated card, so output from the dedicated card is the only thing that will show. if you plug the cable to the motherboards hdmi output, you'll see the output from the integrated GPU. keep in mind that integrated GPU outputs it's video through the motherboards hdmi port, while the dedicated GPU outputs through it's own hdmi ports (or other video port that it uses)

based on the logic of the video out of integrated GPU is sent through the motherboards hdmi out, and the dedicated GPUs video out is sent through it's own hdmi out, and NOT the motherboards hdmi port, you can answer your questions.
Thank you for the answers.

Is it better to buy AMD ryzen 5600g than AMD ryzen5600x because 5600g has integrated graphics that can act like a backup unplug the hdmi cable from the dedicated GPU card and plug into the 5600g to get images on the monitor to continue my work, also can troubleshoot if it is my dedicated GPU card is causing black screen no image.

Why the 5600g has integrated graphics and yet it is cheaper than 5600x that do not have integrated graphics?

AMD ryzen 5600g, 5600, 5600x, which one is best for dual/triple monitors?

Thanks

P.S. I added some questions to my post.
 
seems like you got a heck lotta questions and most of them you could Google as well, but here we are.

6. [AMD ryzen 5700g without graphics card] vs [AMD ryzen 5600x with a graphics card], which one is faster? If they are same speed, which one more value for money or pros/cons?
5700g is faster and also has integrated GPU, so W for 5700g. the cheaper option is 5600x which features no integrated GPU and also is slower. please Google the pros and cons, as if I state them here I'd have to make this too long to read.

7. If the integrated graphics card in the 5700g is faulty, does it mean I would need to change the whole ryzen 5700g chip?
I assume if it does, the whole CPU goes with it, but this is super rare to see Integrated graphics dying. never have I seen anything like that or will it happen to you. it can be faulty, but not die completely.

8. If the integrated graphics card in the 5700g is faulty, can I add a dedicated graphics card on the motherboard and continue use the 5700g without removing it?
as I said, I've not experienced anything like so, nor have I been able to find anything relatable online.

9. I was thinking if the motherboard sense that there is a dedicated graphics card it would use it first and ignore the integrated graphics card in the 5700g cpu chip, is it correct?
no. it's configurable by the BIOS, and as I said, different motherboards will have different defaults, so it's hard to say. since you can configure this in the BIOS, don't worry about it.

10. Correct me if I am wrong, I am a noob, I was thinking using a dedicated graphics card on motherboard is better because graphics card would become faulty faster than the cpu chip. It is easier to change a dedicated graphics card (just plug out/plug in) than changing a cpu chip (I assume must change the whole cpu chip even if only the integrated graphics is faulty?)? (I don't know how to apply/remove thermal paste, metal spring hook to remove/insert cpu chip, remove/insert cooler fan)
whatever is easier with you. integrated graphics suck anyways (even compared to cheap GPUs) so integrated would be better obviously.

Finally, please, PLEASE, stop worrying about your integrated GPU dying, it is a highly unlikely thing and you're making everything complicated by thinking of that.

hope your problems are resolved now,
have a great day 🙂
 
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