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I don't know about that...
But it should beat 10th gen in temps! 🤣

They can only go so much further with these skylake refreshes. Just ignore Intel in the cpu market for now.
They need to come up with a new architecture, one superior to skylake. That will be their next real breakthrough.
 
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Logically, I think Intel is going to need to increase thread counts to stay competitive, so this seems like it could very well be accurate, and is pretty much what I expected them to do. At 14nm, these processors are likely to draw a lot of power and run hot though.

Expect performance to be about the same as their current lineup, only you will now get i5 performance at i3 pricing, i7 performance at i5 pricing, and i9 performance at i7 pricing. It's essentially a price cut to match the Ryzen 3000 series, just like what we saw with Intel's "8th-gen" response to the Ryzen 1000 series, only now AMD's per-core performance is more competitive, and their efficiency is far ahead.

Considering the timing, this likely isn't so much a "leak" as it is Intel's marketing department trying to encourage people to hold out for their processors rather than go with Ryzen right away. As for a release date, Coffee Lake launched in October of 2017, Coffee Lake Refresh in November of 2018, and my best guess would be that at least some of these processors will similarly be out before the end of the year.

I7210I said:
water cooling will solve the issue no worries...
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But then you are paying significantly more than Ryzen, once again, for what will likely be minimal performance gains.
 
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+1 for Cryoburner's post
These 'new' 10gen won't be worth it. I'd imagine only the I3 will be able to get away with stock cooling, and one will need aftermarket air and watercooling - added expense - to keep the I5s, 7s, and 9s down to reasonable temps.
There's a pattern if ya haven't noticed already:
skylake to kaby lake - slight performance increase, small operating temperature increase
kaby lake to coffee lake - slight performance increase, small operating temperature increase
coffee lake to comet lake - coffee lake is pretty much maxed out skylake. Comet won't bring any noticeable improvements, but it'll be even warmer than coffee.


I7210I said:
so according to the table there is for what to wait? looks like that we won't get any overkill..
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Probably 10mn desktop. They are having trouble getting reasonable speeds out of them - they're not stable at 3+ghz - or so I'd read somewhere on TPU. It's enough for the mobile market apparently, as those chips are already in production.
 
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Phaaze88 said:
Probably 10mn desktop. They are having trouble getting reasonable speeds out of them - they're not stable at 3+ghz - or so I'd read somewhere on TPU. It's enough for the mobile market apparently, as those chips are already in production.
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for desktop they have problem of the temp as far as i read too, so there is no reason to wait for them right now,
 
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