Discussion INTEL 10th GEN Desktop CPU Family Specifications & final Prices have been leaked.

[Deleted member 2731765]

Hello everyone,

OK. It looks like the final specifications & prices of Intel's upcoming 10th Generation Comet Lake-S Desktop CPU family have leaked out by HD-Tecnologia , via Videocardz .

The information confirms the details that we already knew but the most important thing covered in this leak is the prices that show that Intel has definitely given its Core lineup a major overhaul in terms of price/positioning to tackle AMD's Ryzen 3000 processors.

Intel Core i9-10900K - 10 Cores, Up To 5.3 GHz Single-Core, 4.9 GHz All-Core at $488 US

Intel Core i7-10700K - 8 Cores, Up To 5.1 GHz Single-Core, 4.7 GHz All-Core at $374 US

Intel Core i5-10600K - 6 Cores, Up To 4.8 GHz Single-Core, 4.5 GHz All-Core at $262 US

The Intel Core i3 lineup is also worth pointing out as it is made up of 3 SKUs which seem to be part of the initial launch family. The Core i3-10320 would be leading with 4 cores, 8 threads at 65W. 8MB of cache, clocks of up to 4.6 GHz with a single-core, and 4.4 GHz on all-cores sound decent enough for what is supposed to be a budget chip retailing under $150US.

It looks like the picture of the packaging and BOX of these CPUs has also be leaked.

https://www.hd-tecnologia.com/intel...jeucTCt0MhtgGqzcD6dI5C-KrryiYiHuEE3_vV_YegQL8

The rest of the lineup is made up of the 65W SKUs which come in Core i9, Core i7, Core i5, and Core i3 flavors. Having a 65W Core i9-10900 with 10 cores and 20 threads which still boosts up to 4.5GHz across all cores and 4.6 GHz if you include the Thermal Velocity boost is pretty good plus 5.2 GHz on a single-core doesn't sound that bad at all, considering this is a 65W chip (at its base frequency).

Image courtesy of Videocardz.

 

[mdd1963]

And the platform? I can imagine the riots if 10th gen is a new lga after ppl just dropped big cash on a 9900k/ks with no possibility of upgrade.

Folks knew for 18 months that Z390 and the 9900K (later the KS) was end of the line for that socket...; I can't imagine anyone feeling 'upset' that a new mainboard is out, or, that their Z390 does not support LGA1200 CPUs... IN fact, it's hard to fathom very many 9900K owners having cases of 'must upgrade ASAP' at all....

 

[mdd1963]

10700k has basically the same stats as a 9900k. The 10700k is $349, the 9900k is $524. If the motherboards are even close to equitable, ppl are going to be upset at spending $200 more for the same thing. I see 9th gen sales taking a massive hit. I think they should not have slashed 10th Gen prices so much, but instead started lowering 9th Gen more towards Ryzen pricing

Now imagine the folks that paid $1799 for a 6950X only to see the 7900X a month or two later at $999!

 

[TerryLaze]

The reason Intel is able to get away with this BS is due to the blind fanboy/girls and professions who can't afford the downtime to switch over to Ryzen/TR/Epyc.

*Yawn
10th gen in a nutshell:
-More speed
-More cores
-More expensive overall: Sorry, but if the 9900K is anything to go by, you won't be able to run those 10 core models on no cheap-xxx motherboard...
-More power
-More heat: buh-bye air cooling!

Well, look at that, you get more of everything! What's not to like?!
Due of how Intel does it TDP ratings, all the unlocked cpus should have '???' for theirs, because it will be determined by the user anyway!

Ryzen's looking all the more attractive as time goes on...

That's intel's version of senseMI only that is actually makes a difference because of how much punishment the 9900k can take.
You don't want the CPU to run hot?Just don't supply so much cooling and vcore and overclocking that it does run hot,put in a setting in the bios to not go over the temp you want it to go.
Overclocking is not = TDP.
Der8auer has tested this with a 47W TDP passive cooler the 9900k only drew 54 watt when running prime.

View: https://youtu.be/zhKOHKOSa6Y?t=322

 

[Karadjgne]

Yeah, 2.6-2.7GHz with core temp of 100°C. I'd not be too happy with those results. FarCry at 3.6GHz, 70°C and 40fps. You could get those results from a Celeron at a fraction of the price.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

True dat !

 

[Phaaze88]

That's intel's version of senseMI only that is actually makes a difference because of how much punishment the 9900k can take.
You don't want the CPU to run hot?Just don't supply so much cooling and vcore and overclocking that it does run hot,put in a setting in the bios to not go over the temp you want it to go.
Overclocking is not = TDP.
Der8auer has tested this with a 47W TDP passive cooler the 9900k only drew 54 watt when running prime.

View: https://youtu.be/zhKOHKOSa6Y?t=322

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That sample was totally practical...

 

[mdd1963]

Der8auer has tested this with a 47W TDP passive cooler the 9900k only drew 54 watt when running prime.

True, it did indeed draw only 54 watts ...when thermally throttling at 100C due to the inadequate cooling, thereby limiting itself to only 2.6-2.7 GHz on all cores,.... if that was the example we were trying to illustrate...
Although, I'd surmise that hardly qualifies as a solution to when someone does 'not wish it to run hot'....

 

[TerryLaze]

True, it did indeed draw only 54 watts ...when thermally throttling at 100C due to the inadequate cooling, thereby limiting itself to only 2.6-2.7 GHz on all cores,.... if that was the example we were trying to illustrate...
Although, I'd surmise that hardly qualifies as a solution to when someone does 'not wish it to run hot'....

That's the whole principle behind boosting,IF YOU DON'T SET IT UP OTHERWISE the CPU will use all of the thermal envelope and all of the power envelope that it has access to to give you the best possible result.
Quotes, directly from AMD.com
"extra performance boost ... with premium processor cooling"
"CPU speeds above and beyond ordinary Boost limits"
"Clock speed scales with cooling performance"

just to repeat myself that everybody does exactly the same it's just barely noticable when the CPU doesn't have any headroom.
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/sense-mi
"
Extended Frequency Range (XFR)
Automatic extra performance boost for enthusiasts' systems with premium processor cooling.2,3

• Permits CPU speeds above and beyond ordinary Precision Boost limits
• Clock speed scales with cooling performance
• Fully automated; no user input required

"

The video is an excellent example of how the CPU auto tunes itself to give you the best possible results,with a 50W tdp cooler it will stay at around 50W consumption with a 250W TDP cooler it will go to 250W consumption,you can choose if you want low or high but choosing yourself to go as high as possible doesn't mean that the CPU is hot it means that YOU CHOSE IT to be that hot.

You can still use a 250W cooler and restrain the actual power draw to the CPU to reach whatever temperature you would like to see.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I will say how smart modern CPUs are that they basically can automatically adapt to almost any reasonable cooling solution in order to maintain a temperature that isnt immediately dangerous.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

It looks like quite a few OEMs might be taking orders for the i3 lineup series of CPUs, along with the Celeron and PENTIUM processor stack, lol.

 

[TerryLaze]

It looks like quite a few OEMs might be taking orders for the i3 lineup series of CPUs, along with the Celeron and PENTIUM processor stack, lol.

Well a 4c/8t CPU at 4.3 is easily enough for any game you throw at it,even if it will be running at 100% in a few games, so of course a lot of people that don't want to overspend are going to go that way especially since they won't even be buying the 2080ti. And you keep yourself open to be able to upgrade to way more than double the performance somewhere in the future.
For most people even gaming is something that they will never do,or do so rarely that it doesn't even matter so they will be going for pentiums and celerons.
The people that do 3d rendering or DC are a very small minority,especially in the desktop/mainstream target group.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0QmnBWoHao

 

[Karadjgne]

Gotta be careful though. What those games show is basically single player or light load server multi-player. They don't show a 24man boss drop where AI is off the charts and fps is dropped into the teens. My old i7-3770K does just fine in the games above, still over 60fps, but open world boss fights can dump me down to 5-10fps easily. A 9700k 8c/8t even at 30fps or better would be a huge playability increase.

View: https://youtu.be/QxoybfvZN2s

 

[Phaaze88]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA6pq4vj4lI


Dem prices - especially the 10700K/KF... OOF.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Seems like the leek was correct.

Should keep in mind those are the prices if you buy 1000 of them.

For the end user, the prices will be higher. Most should offer better value over last-gen intel, however not always.

 

[Phaaze88]

For the end user, the prices will be higher. Most should offer better value over last-gen intel, however not always.

Not to mention, with the 14nm shortages, actual retail stock is going to be low. People/businesses looking to take advantage of that will rear their heads again...

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Should keep in mind those are the prices if you buy 1000 of them.

For the end user, the prices will be higher. Most should offer better value over last-gen intel, however not always.

Exactly. I doubt those prices were for the end user. We haven't even accounted for any VAT and taxes being imposed on these CPUs in several countries, which will raise the price even further.