Intel 7000 Series (Kaby Lake) MegaThread! FAQ & Resources

TechyInAZ

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Welcome Community, to the Official Intel 7000 Series (Kaby Lake) MegaThread!

This thread serves as the primary discussion thread for ALL Kaby Lake information and resources. It contains a list of the latest Kaby Lake reviews and a list of all compatible motherboards! While discussing, please remember to stay within the guidelines set by Tom's Hardware and above all, DO NOT start a flame war.


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What Is Kaby Lake?

Kaby Lake is the 2nd Optimization of the Skylake architecture when debuted in 2015. Just like Skylake, Kaby Lake is built on the 14nm process, but has been refined and optimized even more by improving the transistor fins and gate pitch. Intel calls this their 14nm+ process. This allows Kaby Lake processors to run at up to 400mhz faster clock speeds than their Skylake brethren.

Intel has also introduced new 200 series chipset motherboards with a few extra features over older 100 series motherboards, including support for Optane and support for native 4k streaming. Connectivity has also gone up, the Z270 chipset now has a maximum total of 24 PCI-E 3.0 lanes and 30 HSIO inputs vs Z170's 20 PCI-E 3.0 lanes and 26 HSIO inputs.
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Intel Core i7-7700K

Flagship of the Kaby Lake lineup, and has the highest stock frequency of any Intel chip.

Cores/Threads = 4/8
Operating Frequency = 4.2Ghz (4.5Ghz Turbo)
L2 Cache = 4x 256KB
L3 Cache = 8MB
TDP = 91W
IGPU = HD 630 Graphics

Reviews:

AnandTech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10968/the-intel-core-i7-7700k-91w-review-the-new-stock-performance-champion
Tom's Hardware (OC Review) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-overclocking-performance-review,4836.html
Tom's Hardware (Main Review) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-i7-7700-i5-7600k-i5-7600,4870.html
PC Perspective: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-Review-Kaby-Lake-and-14nm/
Legit Reviews: http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-processor-review_189491
Extreme Tech: https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/241950-intels-core-i7-7700k-reviewed-kaby-lake-debuts-desktop
Hexus: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/99820-intel-core-i7-7700k-14nm-kaby-lake/


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Core i5-7600K

Cores/Threads = 4/4
Operating Frequency = 3.8Ghz (4.2Ghz Turbo)
L2 Cache = 4x 256KB
L3 Cache = 6MB
TDP = 91W
IGPU = HD 630 Graphics

Reviews:

AnandTech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10969/the-intel-core-i57600k-91w-review-the-more-amenable-mainstream-performer
Tom's Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-i7-7700-i5-7600k-i5-7600,4870.html
Guru 3D: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/core-i5-7600k-processor-review-desktop-kaby-lake,1.html
EuroGamer: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-core-i5-7600k-review


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Core i3-7350K

Worlds first i3 with an unlocked multiplier. Reports say that this chip can easily reach the 5Ghz range.

Cores/Threads = 2/4
Operating Frequency = 4.2Ghz
L2 Cache = 2x 256KB
L3 Cache = 4MB
TDP = 60W
IGPU = HD 630 Graphics

Reviews:

Wccftech: http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i3-7350k-cpu-review/
bit-tech: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2017/01/09/intel-core-i3-7350k-review/1
Legit Reviews: http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i3-7350k-processor-review_190299


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Pentium G4560

Worlds first Pentium with HyperThreading. Can compete directly with Core i3-6100 and i5-2500K.

Cores/Threads = 2/4
Operating Frequency = 3.5Ghz
L3 Cache = 3MB
TDP = 54W
IGPU = HD 610 Graphics

Reviews:

wccftech: http://wccftech.com/intel-pentium-g4560-ultimate-budget-cpu-65-usd/

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Motherboards:

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H270:
B250:
 

TechyInAZ

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I'd say both the I3 and the Pentium are the most interesting. But I don't think so as Kaby Lake is basically like the Haswell Refresh.
 
I think this is the most uneventful launch in a long time(from Intel). I'm not sure if this is to appease OEM's that want regular refreshes or just a way to release SKU's that will help them fend off AMD's upcoming line. AMD has a habit of making all their SKU's OC'able so adding an unlocked i3 and making the Pentium 2c/4t is a logical choice.

I'm willing to bet that prices will drop a bit when AMD releases Ryzen.
 

Yuka

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In all fairness to Intel, they need to sell their products on improved nodes slapping "new" to them even if the actual design is basically the same. Those factories burn a lot of greens, I'd imagine!

Now, I do agree lackluster falls short of a word to describe this. And no, the Pentium is a bad product in this lineup. They switched yet another good niche product of the in-the-know people so they get the more expensive option. I have friends that made some switches and NAS machines using Pentiums that are royally screwed now since they'll have to get the i3s instead. It reminds me of the good old Celeron 300A days and their "modifications" to the next iterations.

Cheers!
 


Kaby Lake itself seems kind of pointless. I really think Intel only released it to have a "new" product out when AMD releases Ryzen. There really is nothing brought with Kaby to make it a necessary release.
 

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Pricing will be interesting. Intel has, for a long time, acted as if they were just giving us the iGP on the mainstream chips. $349 to $389 for a high end 4c/8t processor versus $1100 for an 8c/16t processor doesn't add up. In any case, going to the expense of a X-series motherboard for 4 channel memory and little else doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy. I can't help but think Intel has something up their sleeves concerning Kaby Lake X. I have no idea what it would be, though. The leaked Intel slides give no indication of anything interesting other than the possible return of iGP e-dram on the package. While interesting, I'm not sure how much I am willing to pay for the "feature." I suppose, like all the other non-announcements, we'll have to wait and see.
 


They could have done that as a refresh (like Devils Canyon), there was no need for a "new" line or chipset, that I can see.

When they brought DDR4, a new chipset made sense. If they had added PCIE 4 or something significant, I could see the point. But this just seems like a cash grab and a setup for things they have coming in other chipsets.
 


http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2707-intel-z270-vs-h270-chipset-differences-specs

The biggest difference seems to be in the number of HSIO lanes in the H270 chipset. Even so, does this mostly minor change justify an entire product line? Intel obviously believes so...I'm just not convinced. I know it will be useful for some, but it just feels more like a stop gap measure rather than a launch. The extra lanes almost feels like Intel felt they had to change something and that was it.
 

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That would be nice. PC Perspective covered Gigabyte's overclocking specific Z170 motherboard with three M.2 slots, they said that with all three m.2 slots populated (they even did 3 way RAID 0) none of the sata ports would work.
 

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This is the "feature" of Intel chipsets that get on my last nerve. I don't understand it. To be honest, I resent having to pay an extra $50-$100 for one or two PEX8747's just to run all of the storage options without disabling slots. At least one can find boards that have them, but a premium chipset shouldn't need them.
 

Yuka

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Counter-point: the Z chipsets are just high mid tier. The "good stuff" from Intel is the X chipsets. That can be considered premium and/or high tier.

Plus, they do that to segment the market. They make you jump onto the X platform if you have a slightly higher need than what the Z/H platforms offer.

Not justifying, but that is the nature of the (big) beast.

Cheers!
 

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Were they using NVME, or sata specced drives though? I think that makes a difference on whether SATA ports become disabled, on some boards.
 

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I have 8 SSD's in my system now, plus my spinning drives. I had to pay $100 for an add in card to run them all. I'm waiting for the Asus Z-290 WS to become available in order to move my installation over to a modern board. Even with that board, I'll have to be careful with slot assignments in order to run the drives I already own. If I want more, I'm probably going to need to wait for a $500 dollar X-290 WS. It's disgusting, but as you say, that's the nature of the beast.

I was gooning around Benchlife and it looks like Kaby Lake-X may only support dual channel memory, so there is another rumor/leak that makes me wonder what in the world Intel is thinking.
 

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https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storage/Triple-M2-Samsung-950-Pro-Z170-PCIe-NVMe-RAID-Tested-Why-So-Snappy

[strike]M.2 only. When all three m.2 slots were populated, all SATA slots were disabled.[/strike]

Oh I see what you mean, they were NVME PCIE M.2 SSDs.
 

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