Intel & AMD Processor Hierarchy

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Thanks for the link. Pretty amazing what happens with the whole story rather than cherry-picked test results.

Looks like the conclusion is absolutely NOT worth the price-premium of high end DDR5.
It's a common theme in almost every area. Take high-end stereo equipment for example. You can spend 10x the money for 5% improvement. People buy high-end usually because they can. To some people, none of the highest-performing CPUs are worth the price. To others, price does not matter. For those people, the fastest gaming CPU is not actually the 5800X3D.
 
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It's a common theme in almost every area. Take high-end stereo equipment for example. You can spend 10x the money for 5% improvement. People buy high-end usually because they can. To some people, none of the highest-performing CPUs are worth the price. To others, price does not matter. For those people, the fastest gaming CPU is not actually the 5800X3D.
This is going to vary based on what games are being tested, how they are tested, and the exact specs of the test systems. So logically, different review sites are going to come to different results. The charts Shady provided don't really support their argument, in that the fraction of a percent performance difference shown there is well within the margin of error. A less than 1% average performance difference at anything resembling real-world resolutions is completely meaningless, and could swing either way depending on test conditions. And if you look at the individual charts for each game, you would see that the 5800X is the fastest in some of the games they tested, the 12900KS is the fastest in others, and overall, the two end up relatively even, at least in the context of the selection of games and hardware they tested with there. Each processor performs differently at different tasks, and neither is fastest at everything.
 

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This is going to vary based on what games are being tested, how they are tested, and the exact specs of the test systems. So logically, different review sites are going to come to different results. The charts Shady provided don't really support their argument, in that the fraction of a percent performance difference shown there is well within the margin of error. A less than 1% average performance difference at anything resembling real-world resolutions is completely meaningless, and could swing either way depending on test conditions. And if you look at the individual charts for each game, you would see that the 5800X is the fastest in some of the games they tested, the 12900KS is the fastest in others, and overall, the two end up relatively even, at least in the context of the selection of games and hardware they tested with there. Each processor performs differently at different tasks, and neither is fastest at everything.
Sure, results will vary, but the 5800X3D cannot be overclocked to any great extent, but a good sample of 12900K or KS can be nicely overclocked. With well-selected components, a 12900k/ks system will easily outperform the best reviews. That said, it was easier to obtain high-performing CPUs when Silicon Lottery was in business, but it is still possible. So, there is no doubt that for well-heeled users that this tips the gaming performance crown to the 12900k/ks.
 
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Still no updated CPU GAMING HIERARCHY LIST ! been like 6 months or so!
I dont know why they dont just add a Windows 11 on it and put it at the top and leave the current Windows 10 directly underneath it!
Still view it as biased towards Intel ! i bet if Intel is on top again it will updated straight away!
We shall see!
 

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The iGPU chart would benefit greatly putting a couple of the laptop class SKUs in there. . Something along the lines of 5700U / 6700U, and 1165G7 / 1260P. I know these are 'laptop' parts, but these types of CPUs appear in AIO desktops all the time and seeing them in relative performance to the full power desktop versions would be relevant IMO.
 

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