Review Intel Arc B570 review featuring the ASRock Challenger OC: A decent budget option with a few deep cuts

[Admin]

The Intel Arc B570 graphics cards follow on the heels of the seemingly successful B580, with reduced clocks, core counts, and memory. The end result, in theory, is about 15% less performance, for 12% less money — except at 1440p and 4K, where the 10GB VRAM tends to hurt more.

Intel Arc B570 review featuring the ASRock Challenger OC: A decent budget option with a few deep cuts : Read more

 

[Gururu]

If this becomes more available than the b580, I would happily put this into my little brother or sister's new build. $200-250 is absolutely budget and I guess the performance is better than integrated solutions.

 

[GenericUser2001]

Any thoughts on doing a performance test of this and the B580 using a more budget processor? Quite a few other websites have been retesting the B580 and found that it has some sort of driver overhead issues, and when paired with more modest CPU like a Ryzen 5600 the B580 often ends up falling behind a Radeon 7600 or Geforce 4060 on the same games it leads in when paired with a high end CPU.

 

[Elusive Ruse]

Thanks for the review Jarred, I like that you don’t skip higher resolutions and RT which might not be as relevant for a budget GPU but in my opinion they offer good insight on overall improvement gen-on-gen.

The price point is pretty good and I think many buyers would rather buy a new release with potential to get higher performance in the future with better drivers than buying a used card or an older generation card for the same money and performance.

 

[das_stig]

am I misinterpreting the chart or why buy a B5x0 when the A7x0 is superior in most things including price, except for extra wattage and boost clock?

 

[Notton]

am I misinterpreting the chart or why buy a B5x0 when the A7x0 is superior in most things including price, except for extra wattage and boost clock?

If you're looking at the same charts I am looking at, yes.
B570 > A750, B580 > A770 at a majority of games.
There are some exceptions where this flips around on some settings, like TLoU 1080p ultra, but reverts to B570 being dominant at 1080p medium.

 

[Giroro]

B570 Doesn't really outperform an RTX 3060. That a bummer, even at $200.

 

[eye4bear]

Day before yesterday I managed to order and pick-up after work one of only 3 B580s at the Miami Micro Center, and the other two were gone yesterday on their web-site. Worked late last evening, so haven't had a chance yet to install it. Replacing an Arc A380. If I find out anything interesting, will let you all know.

 

[JarredWaltonGPU]

Any thoughts on doing a performance test of this and the B580 using a more budget processor? Quite a few other websites have been retesting the B580 and found that it has some sort of driver overhead issues, and when paired with more modest CPU like a Ryzen 5600 the B580 often ends up falling behind a Radeon 7600 or Geforce 4060 on the same games it leads in when paired with a high end CPU.

It all takes time, the one thing I definitely don't have right now. There's a reason RTX 3050 isn't in the charts either. LOL. But eventually, it's something I'd like to investigate... and will probably be stale before I could get around to it. Because it's time to start testing the extreme GPUs in preparation for RTX 5090 and 5080. And after that? The high-end cards in preparation for RTX 5070 Ti and 5070, plus RX 9070 XT and 9070.

I should have more ability to do off the beaten path testing in about two months, in other words. <sigh> But it's good to be busy, even if we don't have enough time between getting cards and the launch dates.

 

[-Fran-]

Thanks for the comprehensive data as always, Jarred.

And kind of sad the conclusion from most people reviewing it is: "well, the B580 is the better pick if you can find it at MSRP". I wonder if Intel can make this card hit a lower price point? I mean, without actually losing money. Sounds tricky to do.

And I'm surprised OBS didn't work for you. I would have imagined they'd be exposing the capabilities of Battlemage the same way as Alchemist for the encoders. Well, I hope a patch is coming, since that's a big miss for me at least 🙁

Regards.

 

[rluker5]

I've got a B580 and noticed a couple of bugs in overclocking.
1. my PC doesn't like to wake from sleep with an overclock applied to the B580. It will wake, not be happy and restart which turns off the oc. No problem if no oc. I am running a pretty heavy undervolt on my 13900kf and it is stable in everything else, but maybe is giving this particular boot issue. Also not a fresh OS install.
2. The ram oc usually doesn't take 21 Gbs right away. I have to do 20, sometimes 20.1 then it takes 21 and the change shows up in GPUZ and everything else.

I just thought of the ram oc finickyness reading this article and how I would want to oc vram if I had a B570. Hopefully few others have these issues but I'm seeing them so I brought them up.

Also my B580 has been a bunch faster than my A750 in the few games I've played on it.

 

[helper800]

It all takes time, the one thing I definitely don't have right now. There's a reason RTX 3050 isn't in the charts either. LOL. But eventually, it's something I'd like to investigate... and will probably be stale before I could get around to it. Because it's time to start testing the extreme GPUs in preparation for RTX 5090 and 5080. And after that? The high-end cards in preparation for RTX 5070 Ti and 5070, plus RX 9070 XT and 9070.

I should have more ability to do off the beaten path testing in about two months, in other words. <sigh> But it's good to be busy, even if we don't have enough time between getting cards and the launch dates.

That's what I call a strong helping of job security!

 

[JarredWaltonGPU]

I've got a B580 and noticed a couple of bugs in overclocking.
1. my PC doesn't like to wake from sleep with an overclock applied to the B580. It will wake, not be happy and restart which turns off the oc. No problem if no oc. I am running a pretty heavy undervolt on my 13900kf and it is stable in everything else, but maybe is giving this particular boot issue. Also not a fresh OS install.
2. The ram oc usually doesn't take 21 Gbs right away. I have to do 20, sometimes 20.1 then it takes 21 and the change shows up in GPUZ and everything else.

I just thought of the ram oc finickyness reading this article and how I would want to oc vram if I had a B570. Hopefully few others have these issues but I'm seeing them so I brought them up.

Also my B580 has been a bunch faster than my A750 in the few games I've played on it.

I poked at overclocking on the B580 a bit, seems VRAM can be a pretty serious sticking point. I could not get 20 Gbps stable, only 19.5 Gbps — on one card. So not a meaningful sample size right now. Core clocks, I applied +150 MHz I think, which ended up giving +200 MHz. So I went from 2850 MHz to 3050 MHz. That seemed stable for all the tests I tried, but I didn't try entering and resuming from sleep.

I suspect Arc overclocking will continue to be a work in progress for a while.

 

[redgarl]

These GPUs have major problems when using lower end CPUs...

 

[helper800]

These GPUs have major problems when using lower end CPUs...

Major problems is a bit of an exaggeration...

 

[Gururu]

I poked at overclocking on the B580 a bit, seems VRAM can be a pretty serious sticking point. I could not get 20 Gbps stable, only 19.5 Gbps — on one card. So not a meaningful sample size right now. Core clocks, I applied +150 MHz I think, which ended up giving +200 MHz. So I went from 2850 MHz to 3050 MHz. That seemed stable for all the tests I tried, but I didn't try entering and resuming from sleep.

I suspect Arc overclocking will continue to be a work in progress for a while.

I would hope Intel is not using super quality VRAM on budget cards like this. They have margins to think about!

By the way, since latency is becoming a thing, is the latency across all these tests indistinguishable? Is it because the upscaling isn't activated? Thanks!

 

[redgarl]

Major problems is a bit of an exaggeration...

Check the 1%... not to mention all the bugs...

 

[helper800]

Check the 1%... not to mention all the bugs...

The one percent lows go down in unison with how much the average fps goes down, they don't go down more than the average between the lows and the average between cpus.

 

[thestryker]

I would hope Intel is not using super quality VRAM on budget cards like this. They have margins to think about!

VRAM is VRAM for the most part and both the B580/B570 are using the same 20Gbps Samsung GDDR6 (TPU did teardowns for both).

 

[Math Geek]

for the moment it is available at newegg for msrp

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-challenger-b570-cl-12go-intel-arc-b570-10gb-gddr6/p/N82E16814930134

so that's nice

 

[PiersPlowman]

These GPUs have major problems when using lower end CPUs...

Nope. Not seeing a "major" problem here.

Has the idle power draw issue been addressed with these cards?

 

[beyondlogic]

Nope. Not seeing a "major" problem here.

Has the idle power draw issue been addressed with these cards?

it has driver overhead somewhat but that should be fixed with drivers hopefully.

as for idle power it still draws quite a bit more then the competition but its less then there first generation.

 

[User of Computers]

These GPUs have major problems when using lower end CPUs...

it's honestly not that bad. The B570 loses less performance compared to the B580, and all the cards lose a pretty large chunk of performance. Unless you're using a much much older CPU, the B570 still makes sense as it's slightly better value than the RTX 4060 and RX 7600 (with more VRAM).

 

[beyondlogic]

it should also be noted that some motherboards

Nope. Not seeing a "major" problem here.

Has the idle power draw issue been addressed with these cards?

there is also some info on power consumption on idle on these cards unsure if reviewers have actually checked this


this was updated on december of last year

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...hics/intel-arc-dedicated-graphics-family.html

 

[User of Computers]

Has the idle power draw issue been addressed with these cards?

If your motherboard has working ASPM support, then the idle should be good. Check the BIOS
edit: if not, then it's still high (though better than Alchemist, still not on RDNA 3 or Lovelace levels)