News Intel Battlemage G10 and G21 next-gen discrete GPUs seen in shipping manifests — expected to address entry to mid-range market

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Mentioning of Intel's Battlemage GPUs in shipment manifest indicates that the company is bringing up two units.

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[Notton]

Here is to hoping they are more viable than last gen.

 

[thisisaname]

Here is to hoping they are more viable than last gen.

It was not one of the best but it was a very good start, I just hope they build on it and make a lot better one. They also need to end the rumours they are stopping dGPU development and commit to it.
I'm not going to be looking to buy any of the next generation (picked up a nice gaming laptop this generation) but generation after I could be interested.

 

[rluker5]

I want to hear more. If I were to upgrade anything this year it would be my A750 in the living room.

 

[atomicWAR]

It was not one of the best but it was a very good start, I just hope they build on it and make a lot better one. They also need to end the rumours they are stopping dGPU development and commit to it.

Yeah I was impressed with Intel's first attempt even if I wouldn't have touched one of their GPUs with a ten foot pole due to being a 144hz 4K gamer. And your dead on the money that Intel needs to kill the rumors they are leaving the dedicated GPU market. As you said they need to commit. They also need to do a good job convincing gamers that its not all PR/marketing speak. Another thing they need to do is be able to challenge Nvidia and AMD on the high end in a more timely fashion. I hear rumors they'll hit 4070 levels of performance but that at the cusp of the 5000 series dropping from Nvidia looks weak. I know pricing is king here but being late to market doesn't inspire a lot of user confidence.

 

[ilukey77]

Here is to hoping they are more viable than last gen.

actually the ARC770 16gb was more viable than some of the 8gb rubbish AMD and Nvidia spewed out ..

My 7900xtx Red Devil had a incident with one melting plug so ive been using my all intel 14600kf and ARC770 build for a few weeks and it has performed perfectly ..

Been playing nightingale at 70 fps 4k ultra no issues ..

Think im going to re build my main using a 5090 and 9000x3d cpu and sit on it for a few gens when everything comes out !!

But i will be closely watching Intel GPU's as they have done great this first gen and i dont see why they wont continue to do so !!

If they can beat the 5090 in the next few gens ill move to intel GPU's no doubts !!

 

[gg83]

actually the ARC770 16gb was more viable than some of the 8gb rubbish AMD and Nvidia spewed out ..

My 7900xtx Red Devil had a incident with one melting plug so ive been using my all intel 14600kf and ARC770 build for a few weeks and it has performed perfectly ..

Been playing nightingale at 70 fps 4k ultra no issues ..

Think im going to re build my main using a 5090 and 9000x3d cpu and sit on it for a few gens when everything comes out !!

But i will be closely watching Intel GPU's as they have done great this first gen and i dont see why they wont continue to do so !!

If they can beat the 5090 in the next few gens ill move to intel GPU's no doubts !!

That will probably cost close to $5,000 just for those two components.

 

[ilukey77]

That will probably cost close to $5,000 just for those two components.

probably closer to 6k aud but i wont be buying anything for a few years after that ..

 

[jlake3]

But i will be closely watching Intel GPU's as they have done great this first gen and i dont see why they wont continue to do so !!

The A770 used a bigger die on a more advanced node then the then-current 3070Ti. Production date codes show they built a mountain of cards months ahead of launch while they tried to fix the drivers, leading to credible rumors that this was not the intended positioning or pricing but something they were forced into. Intel started hiding Arc’s numbers in their financials, which has fueled the rumor that Alchemist sales aren’t anywhere near covering R&D of future products.

Selling big dies for cheap and using profit from other products to plug the gaping hole in the R&D budget might work out okay for buyers for one generation, but it’s not a sign Arc is doing great and is assured to keep doing great.

I’d love to see a third competitor, I even bought an A380 to fiddle with, but I’m worried for their continued presence in the gaming/consumer dGPU space.

 

[Notton]

actually the ARC770 16gb was more viable than some of the 8gb rubbish AMD and Nvidia spewed out

Yeah, the only thing keeping me from using the A770 are the drivers and just the general pricing of 16GB cards.
It is definitely the cheapest 16GB card, but they are all way too expensive for the performance they offer.

 

[Eximo]

If the 4070 like performance rumors are true, I will probably get the top-spec Battlemage card just for fun. Would be a complete side-grade but I have had some fun messing with my A380 so far.

With any luck the driver improvements will keep on rolling out and it will be card that ages well. Much like the Radeon drivers of old.

 

[ilukey77]

The A770 used a bigger die on a more advanced node then the then-current 3070Ti. Production date codes show they built a mountain of cards months ahead of launch while they tried to fix the drivers, leading to credible rumors that this was not the intended positioning or pricing but something they were forced into. Intel started hiding Arc’s numbers in their financials, which has fueled the rumor that Alchemist sales aren’t anywhere near covering R&D of future products.

Selling big dies for cheap and using profit from other products to plug the gaping hole in the R&D budget might work out okay for buyers for one generation, but it’s not a sign Arc is doing great and is assured to keep doing great.

I’d love to see a third competitor, I even bought an A380 to fiddle with, but I’m worried for their continued presence in the gaming/consumer dGPU space.

Intel a multi billion dollar company if they lose money trying to make a name for themselves im sure they can cope with it..

Lose money to make money !!

I think if Intel were going to bankrupt themselves try to make that name they wouldnt have announced battlemage im certain they would have said sorry what you got is all you will get..

 

[ilukey77]

Yeah, the only thing keeping me from using the A770 are the drivers and just the general pricing of 16GB cards.
It is definitely the cheapest 16GB card, but they are all way too expensive for the performance they offer.

Actually one thing that has really impressed me is the simplistic approach to the software ARC control is simple easy to use none of the fluff AMD Adrenalin uses
( cant comment on Nvidia dont use any of there cards )

As for drivers i mean even Nvidia and AMD have to optimize drivers for games Intel is way behind them even so it was always going to take time theres a great video on Gamer Nexus channel with Tom Petersen

View: https://youtu.be/Qp3BGu3vixk

Tom is the guy that is keeping Intel ARC moving forward you need only watch all the videos GN has done on arc since release to see the huge amount of effort they have put into their drivers for a first attempt and the progress they have made proves they want that top spot at some point ..​

 

[CmdrShepard]

When the first Arc cards came out my interest was piqued but I stopped short of getting one as a spare card for my RTX 4090 because I wanted to see whether Intel is really comitted this time around.

I am genuinely interested in the next iteration and I might buy one so I can install Linux and give it Arc while I run Windows in a VM with RTX passed through.

 

[Notton]

Intel a multi billion dollar company if they lose money trying to make a name for themselves im sure they can cope with it..

Lose money to make money !!

I think if Intel were going to bankrupt themselves try to make that name they wouldnt have announced battlemage im certain they would have said sorry what you got is all you will get..

If Intel bankrupts themselves making GPUs, that would be bad news.
They would kill their dGPUs before that were to happen.

Do you want to see price cuts due to fierce competition, or go back to the current duopoly between Nvidia and AMD?
Because the awful prices for 4060Ti 16GB and 4070 are the direct result of the lack of competition AMD is offering.

 

[ilukey77]

If Intel bankrupts themselves making GPUs, that would be bad news.
They would kill their dGPUs before that were to happen.

Do you want to see price cuts due to fierce competition, or go back to the current duopoly between Nvidia and AMD?
Because the awful prices for 4060Ti 16GB and 4070 are the direct result of the lack of competition AMD is offering.

In my opinion ( and RT not included as we all know Nvidia are kicking goals in RT even if its personal preference )
AMD are beating everything Nvidia are bringing out 4080 down ..

The 4090 is the best that is where AMD has lost competition should have but couldnt or didnt compete depends on whos telling the story AMD says didnt want i think they just couldnt with the new MCM design ..

Price is subjective Nvidia has the good will idiots that throw money at their BS prices just because Nvidia good AMD bad drivers seems to be the normal response of Nvidia fanboys ..

AMD was always going to slightly under cut or match Nvidia's price their a company not a charity

I want to see a 3rd player for a few reasons as i see AMD and Nvidia are going to keep trading blows at the pointy end of the market..

I see Intel as the quiet stealth company catering to the lower / budget end of the market offering value for money high Vram solid drivers and just stealing the budget low end market off both of them then pouncing into the higher end at some point ..

you can take all the 4090s 4080s 7900xtx and 7900xt's and the real market where the money is truly made is in the cheaper ( if you can even call them that these days ) budget low end cards!!