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The sSpec is odd. When searching for it it comes up as the Intel Xeon Scalable Gold 5128:

http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SR/SRF8T.html

As far as I know Intel does not reuse the same sSpec number within the same generation or couple of generations if at all. So why would a random unlisted CPU from Intel in China have the same sSpec as an official Xeon?

If you search cpu-worlds site with SRF8 it will list only Xeon CPUs from the same family (Scalable).

This CPU also was first seen in a screenshot for nVidias GeForce Now servers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GeForceNOW/comments/ctinfx View: https://www.reddit.com/r/GeForceNOW/comments/ctinfx/new_servers_on_geforce_now/


Another weird thing found is this:

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/14832851

Geekbench shows it as a Kaby Lake and has very old chipset information.

It is also Stepping 13 which matches the 9900Ks but not the 9700K or 9900K/KF. As well Geekbench shows the 9 series as Coffee Lake not Kaby Lake like the CC150.

So my bet is that this is either a fake, considering the sSpec number, or is a specialized CPU designed by Intel for Nvidia to be used for their GeForce now and was either eventually replaced with better CPUs and these have ended up in the hands of people wanting to sell them like ES samples tend to.

Edit

https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/258737

Found that. Refers to it as a Quanta Coffee Lake S motherboard.

Looks like Quanta is a pretty large ODM in Taiwan. I still say this is probably a chip for the Nvidia GeForce Now thats being resold.
 
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The sSpec is odd. When searching for it it comes up as the Intel Xeon Scalable Gold 5128:

http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SR/SRF8T.html

As far as I know Intel does not reuse the same sSpec number within the same generation or couple of generations if at all. So why would a random unlisted CPU from Intel in China have the same sSpec as an official Xeon?

If you search cpu-worlds site with SRF8 it will list only Xeon CPUs from the same family (Scalable).

This CPU also was first seen in a screenshot for nVidias GeForce Now servers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GeForceNOW/comments/ctinfx View: https://www.reddit.com/r/GeForceNOW/comments/ctinfx/new_servers_on_geforce_now/


Another weird thing found is this:

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/14832851

Geekbench shows it as a Kaby Lake and has very old chipset information.

It is also Stepping 13 which matches the 9900Ks but not the 9700K or 9900K/KF. As well Geekbench shows the 9 series as Coffee Lake not Kaby Lake like the CC150.

So my bet is that this is either a fake, considering the sSpec number, or is a specialized CPU designed by Intel for Nvidia to be used for their GeForce now and was either eventually replaced with better CPUs and these have ended up in the hands of people wanting to sell them like ES samples tend to.

Edit

https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/258737

Found that. Refers to it as a Quanta Coffee Lake S motherboard.

Looks like Quanta is a pretty large ODM in Taiwan. I still say this is probably a chip for the Nvidia GeForce Now thats being resold.
Thats some valuable insight. Interesting to know that Geforce now uses these no turbo versions of Intel processors. I might have thought that something like Ryzen would have delivered comparable performance for cheaper and/or less power usage.
 

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Thats some valuable insight. Interesting to know that Geforce now uses these no turbo versions of Intel processors. I might have thought that something like Ryzen would have delivered comparable performance for cheaper and/or less power usage.
Whats more interesting is I also found an older one that shows a better CPU core wise:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/7ztc0o View: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/7ztc0o/i_was_able_to_find_out_the_specs_being_used_in/


A Xeon E5-2697 V4 which is 18 cores and 36 threads. I would think in a situation that possibly has multiple games being tun at once to stream these would be better. However these are GTX based systems while the CC150 is RTX based.

Still its odd as every CPU Intel makes gets added to their Ark site and the CC150 is not there at all. My first guess was it was ES but having a sSpec with S, as the article states, normally means its a production CPU.

I would think someone at TH (Maybe Chris Angelini) might be able to contact Intel for more information on these CPUs. I wonder if this news gets to Intel that these are being sold they might treat them like ES samples as they are not listed as official production CPUs.
 

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Whats more interesting is I also found an older one that shows a better CPU core wise:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/7ztc0o View: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/7ztc0o/i_was_able_to_find_out_the_specs_being_used_in/


A Xeon E5-2697 V4 which is 18 cores and 36 threads. I would think in a situation that possibly has multiple games being tun at once to stream these would be better. However these are GTX based systems while the CC150 is RTX based.

Still its odd as every CPU Intel makes gets added to their Ark site and the CC150 is not there at all. My first guess was it was ES but having a sSpec with S, as the article states, normally means its a production CPU.

I would think someone at TH (Maybe Chris Angelini) might be able to contact Intel for more information on these CPUs. I wonder if this news gets to Intel that these are being sold they might treat them like ES samples as they are not listed as official production CPUs.
The Xeon usage is interesting. Maybe they moved to a Core based CPU instead due to cost? A xeon would definitely be more expensive than an equivalent CPU that was just derived from a Core based one so perhaps Nvidia decided that for the actual launch with many more users, a slightly more cost effective processor could be sourced.
 

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The Xeon usage is interesting. Maybe they moved to a Core based CPU instead due to cost? A xeon would definitely be more expensive than an equivalent CPU that was just derived from a Core based one so perhaps Nvidia decided that for the actual launch with many more users, a slightly more cost effective processor could be sourced.
Probably. And one that also supports higher base clock speeds would probably be beneficial than one that has a much lower base and only slightly higher turbo.

Still someone is selling these chips which begs the question of where they got them from. Its possible this CPU was built for more than just GeForce Now and was to be used in similar blade server situations.
 

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Probably. And one that also supports higher base clock speeds would probably be beneficial than one that has a much lower base and only slightly higher turbo.

Still someone is selling these chips which begs the question of where they got them from. Its possible this CPU was built for more than just GeForce Now and was to be used in similar blade server situations.
Perhaps. Curious to know what other customers if any Intel has for the CC150 chips or if there are similar semi-custom solutions that Intel doesn't publicly disclose.
 
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The sSpec is odd. When searching for it it comes up as the Intel Xeon Scalable Gold 5128:

http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SR/SRF8T.html

As far as I know Intel does not reuse the same sSpec number within the same generation or couple of generations if at all. So why would a random unlisted CPU from Intel in China have the same sSpec as an official Xeon?

If you search cpu-worlds site with SRF8 it will list only Xeon CPUs from the same family (Scalable).

This CPU also was first seen in a screenshot for nVidias GeForce Now servers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GeForceNOW/comments/ctinfx View: https://www.reddit.com/r/GeForceNOW/comments/ctinfx/new_servers_on_geforce_now/


Another weird thing found is this:

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/14832851

Geekbench shows it as a Kaby Lake and has very old chipset information.

It is also Stepping 13 which matches the 9900Ks but not the 9700K or 9900K/KF. As well Geekbench shows the 9 series as Coffee Lake not Kaby Lake like the CC150.

So my bet is that this is either a fake, considering the sSpec number, or is a specialized CPU designed by Intel for Nvidia to be used for their GeForce now and was either eventually replaced with better CPUs and these have ended up in the hands of people wanting to sell them like ES samples tend to.

Edit

https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/258737

Found that. Refers to it as a Quanta Coffee Lake S motherboard.

Looks like Quanta is a pretty large ODM in Taiwan. I still say this is probably a chip for the Nvidia GeForce Now thats being resold.

The S-spec is SRFBT,not SRF8T。
In fact,most of the OEM design model can not be find on Intel ARK,such as E5-2679V4(ORACLE)、i5-7420/7420T、Pentium Dual-Core G4580、CC150(Nvidia)、Core 2 Quad Q7100/Q7300/Q7500/Q7600、Xeon W2140B/2150B/2170B/2191B(APPLE)、Core 2 E8100/E8700、Core 2 Quad Q9100/Q9200(Desktop)、Xeon X5698(4.40GHz~4.66GHz/Dual Core)(HP) and so on。
You can find most of them on
https://www.taobao.com
ever

Apple Xeon W2140B/2150B/2170B/2191B
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.2b4e59c5jQIYBc&id=607124935836&ns=1&abbucket=14#detail
 
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I wouldn't expect Nvidia to use AMD CPUs, if they could avoid it.

Plus, this thing probably predates Zen2.
I doubt it predates Zen2 considering the specs state Stepping 13 which is the same as the 9900KS. At least thats what the GeekBench infor for every CC150 listed shows.

The S-spec is SRFBT,not SRF8T。
In fact,most of the OEM design model can not be find on Intel ARK,such as E5-2679V4(ORACLE)、i5-7420/7420T、Pentium Dual-Core G4580、CC150(Nvidia)、Core 2 Quad Q7100/Q7300/Q7500/Q7600、Xeon W2140B/2150B/2170B/2191B(APPLE)、Core 2 E8100/E8700、Core 2 Quad Q9100/Q9200(Desktop)、Xeon X5698(4.40GHz~4.66GHz/Dual Core)(HP) and so on。
You can find most of them on
https://www.taobao.com
ever

Apple Xeon W2140B/2150B/2170B/2191B
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.2b4e59c5jQIYBc&id=607124935836&ns=1&abbucket=14#detail
I see the stepping was wrong. Swear I copied it from the article. SRFB also pulls up, of officially known, only Xeons.

Still looks like it is basically a chip designed for specific use and not retail production.

I guess the one difference is all of those sans the CC150 have a normal naming scheme and we normally know about them. Hell the GTX 800M series was an OEM exclusive and desktops jumped right to 900. But we knew about them and the naming scheme was the normal naming scheme.
 

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