Intel Conroe - details?

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slvr_phoenix

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Like so many things of late, it will be a copy of what Amd is doing.
Because Intel never based the PM on the P3 and hasn't been upgrading that architecture for mobile use for years now or anything.

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And all of AMD's core designs have been totally original right?

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endyen

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Because it will have 64 bit, and Intel's version of hyper threading. It may not have an ODMC, but it will have a new mem interface. Sounds a lot closer to A64 than to dothan.
 

endyen

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I'm not giving Amd credit for inventing anything. They just seem to put it together, and make it work (better, lately)
Intel is just not the inovative tech leader that they have been.
 

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No you're probably correct in that regard, but Intel knows what the (average) consumer wants. They're still the giant in the industry and can innovate when it's required. (look at centrino, that must be the best combo of marketing and hardware, dothan's a pretty damn nice chip)

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endyen

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but Intel knows what the (average) consumer wants
More like decides what joe wants, and he believes them, because they are Intel.
Dothan this, Centrino that, it's a lot of hype for what should have been the P4.
The biggest joke is on battery life. The average laptop will see 10% of it's life on battery. BFD. You put any chip on the type of preminm setup that a Dothan gets....
 

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>Because it will have 64 bit, and Intel's version of hyper
>threading.

Will it have HT ? got a link for me ?

>It may not have an ODMC, but it will have a new mem
>interface.

A new memory interface ? Please elaborate and/or link ?

>Sounds a lot closer to A64 than to dothan.

Ahem... no.

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I have actually been in favor of your argument up until here... I think that you disregard battery life of a laptop too easily. The fact of the matter is that a laptop is not designed as a gaming PC. The vast vast majority of laptop/notebook users are business users. Which means that it requires battery life for that coffee break meeting at Starbucks, lunch break meeting, and the car ride to Calgary for the weekend while the wife drives. Trust me when I tell you, I have heard many a business man complain about his battery running out at a very inopportune time.

That said... I do agree that the Dothan is given certain advantages as it is mounted in a far supperior product 95% of the time. But as far as I am concerned for the average business man, Intel owns this market (and rightfully so).
 

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Plus, having the option to leave the computer in standby mode all weekend (ready to be opened and immediately used when needed), rather than hibernate is wonderful! I'll put my laptop in standy on Friday afternoon and then open it on Monday morning and it still has over 40% battery. I think battery life is a very big deal for most laptop users (especially in the business space).

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Ok, you are wrong. :tongue:

But seriously, I intend to get a laptop for university and I need to have at least 3 hours of battery life doing minimalistic stuff. It will be away from a power outlet for that long.

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endyen

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Will it have HT ? got a link for me ?
Sorry, that just came out totally wrong. What the sentence should have said was " ...have 64 bit, intel's version of hyper transport, but no hyper threading". A good example of brain working faster than mouth ( or in this case fingers)
 

endyen

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and the car ride to Calgary for the weekend while the wife drives
Yah, adaptors are such a pain, which may be a bit better than someone leaving thier laptop on standby all weekend, but too damn lazy to plug it in.
I work at a post secondary institution. We have WIFI, and an abundance of special outlets for laptops. Well the WIFI does get used...
Okay, so there's this guy sitting at a desk using the WIFI, and his battery. He's at a computer desk, in a computer lab, with a new P4 right in front of him. Two seats away is a space set up, with a plug etc. for laptops.
Does that guy need good battery life, or just a brain transplant.
 

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>What the sentence should have said was " ...have 64 bit,
>intel's version of hyper transport

Merom won't have CSI either AFAIK CSI is scheduled for somewhere in 2007

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Adaptors are all right... but with my wifes, ipods and the cooler keeping our beverages cold to compete with, the single cig lighter socket is in high demand. Hence anything with a long battery life is preferred.
 

wolverinero79

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Wow someone sounds kind of bitter.

The point is, I can leave my laptop in standby in my laptop bag with the peace of mind that at anytime I can grab it, take it with me in the car and know it will be usable. This hasn't been the case in the past. It's been more, take the laptop home in standby, power it up on Saturday, get the battery warning message and have the thing power itself off. Not exactly fun.

It's all about ease of use and peace of mind. Removing complications from people's lives (rather than adding) is where the computer industry is heading.

Wouldn't it be nice if in your WIFI environment, you could take your laptop around campus and then pop open the laptop to find that your wireless connection was maintained during your walk to your class? Simple conveniences add up and definitely contribute to efficiency and increased productivity. The academic or ethusiast market may not understand that, but the business market certainly does.

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