[SOLVED] Intel Core i5-8250U or Intel Xeon E3-1275 v2

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Hi all. I have a ThinkServer TS130 currently used as a daily desktop PC with Win 8.1 Ent. I also have a spare DELL Inspiron 5570 laptop with Win 10 Pro. The TS130 is much older than the DELL except that the TS130 has been brand new in storage until I bought it almost 2 years ago for almost nothing. I was wondering which machine I should keep/spend time on for the next 3 years. I have modest requirements and don't play games or do any intensive video/graphics. I mainly use it for MS Office, internet and watch movies. I did a comparison below but seems to be both have ups/downs so don't know which is worth maintaining. Any help is appreciated.


DELL Inspiron 5570 LaptopThinkServer TS130 (1100)
Actual Memory Installed
2x 8GB DDR4-2666 PC4-21300 Non-ECC2x 8GB DDR3-1333 PC3-10600 ECC
Actual Graphics Card Installed
NoneMSI N710GT NVIDIA GeForce GT 710 2GB DDR3 SDRAM
Intel® Core™ i5-8250U ProcessorIntel® Xeon® Processor E3-1275 v2
Essentials
Product Collection8th Generation Intel® Core™ i5 ProcessorsIntel® Xeon® Processor E3 v2 Family
Vertical SegmentMobileServer
Processor Numberi5-8250UE3-1275V2
StatusLaunchedLaunched
Launch DateQ3'17Q2'12
Lithography14 nm22 nm
Use ConditionsPC/Client/Tablet
Recommended Customer Price
$297.00​
$319.00 - $350.00
CPU Specifications
# of Cores
4​
4​
# of Threads
8​
8​
Processor Base Frequency1.60 GHz3.50 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency3.40 GHz3.90 GHz
Cache6 MB Intel® Smart Cache8 MB Intel® Smart Cache
Bus Speed4 GT/s5 GT/s
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0 Frequency‡3.40 GHz3.90 GHz
TDP15 W77 W
Configurable TDP-up Frequency1.80 GHz
Configurable TDP-up25 W
Configurable TDP-down Frequency800 MHz
Configurable TDP-down10 W
Supplemental Information
Embedded Options AvailableNoYes
DatasheetView nowView now
Memory Specifications
Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type)32 GB32.77 GB
Memory TypesDDR4-2400, LPDDR3-2133DDR3 1333/1600
Max # of Memory Channels
2​
2​
Max Memory Bandwidth37.5 GB/s25.6 GB/s
ECC Memory Supported ‡NoYes
Actual memory installed in machine2x 8GB DDR4-2666 PC4-21300 Non-ECC2x 8GB DDR3-1333 PC3-10600 ECC
Processor Graphics
Processor Graphics ‡Intel® UHD Graphics 620
Graphics Base Frequency300 MHz650 MHz
Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency1.10 GHz1.25 GHz
Graphics Video Max Memory32 GB
Graphics OutputeDP/DP/HDMI/DVI
4K SupportYes, at 60Hz
Max Resolution (HDMI)‡4096x2304@24Hz
Max Resolution (DP)‡4096x2304@60Hz
Max Resolution (eDP - Integrated Flat Panel)‡4096x2304@60Hz
DirectX* Support
12​
OpenGL* Support
4.4​
Intel® Quick Sync VideoYesYes
Intel® Clear Video HD TechnologyYesYes
Intel® Clear Video TechnologyYes
# of Displays Supported ‡
3​
3​
Device ID0x5917
Intel® InTru™ 3D TechnologyYes
Intel® Flexible Display Interface (Intel® FDI)Yes
Expansion Options
PCI Express Revision
3​
3​
PCI Express Configurations ‡1x4, 2x2, 1x2+2x1 and 4x11x16 & 1x4, 2x8 & 1x4 or 1x8 & 3x4
Max # of PCI Express Lanes
12​
Package Specifications
Sockets SupportedFC-BGA1356FCLGA1155
Max CPU Configuration
1​
1​
TJUNCTION100°C
Package Size42mm X 24mm37.5mm x 37.5mm
Advanced Technologies
Intel® Optane™ Memory Supported ‡Yes
Intel® Speed Shift TechnologyYes
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology ‡
2​
2​
Intel vPro® Platform Eligibility ‡NoYes
Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ‡YesYes
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡YesYes
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡YesYes
Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡YesYes
Intel® Transactional Synchronization ExtensionsNoNo
Intel® 64 ‡YesYes
Instruction Set64-bit64-bit
Instruction Set ExtensionsIntel® SSE4.1, Intel® SSE4.2, Intel® AVX2Intel® SSE4.1, Intel® SSE4.2, Intel® AVX
Intel® My WiFi TechnologyYes
Idle StatesYesYes
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® TechnologyYesYes
Thermal Monitoring TechnologiesYesYes
Intel® Flex Memory AccessYesYes
Intel® Identity Protection Technology ‡YesYes
Intel® Stable Image Platform Program (SIPP)No
Intel® Smart Response TechnologyYes
Intel® Demand Based SwitchingYes
Intel® Fast Memory AccessYes
Security & Reliability
Intel® AES New InstructionsYesYes
Secure KeyYes
Intel® Software Guard Extensions (Intel® SGX)Yes with Intel® ME
Intel® OS GuardYes
Intel® Trusted Execution Technology ‡NoYes
Execute Disable Bit ‡YesYes
 
Thanks Samir, the link is very informative. I will keep using the Xeon as daily desktop and keep the i5 as backup.
You're welcome. You may even be able to upgrade to the e3-1290 v2, but I have only found that the TS430 is spec'd to run it. While this may be the case, many manufacturers like Lenovo, Dell, and HP don't test all the possibilities, especially when the systems are end of life, and many have found that they can be upgraded far, far past what they were originally meant to do.

Case in point is my HP z420 which was supposed to max out to only 32gb of ecc non-registered ram. Well, apparently you can use registered ecc modules and even LRDIMMs and I have 256GB of ram installed in the system, and it might theoretically be able to go to 512GB using 64GB LRDIMMs. Completely untested by HP, by I had memtest pass over 3x whole passes (38hrs each!) without a hitch. The rewards for experimenting can be quite sweet.
 
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You're welcome. You may even be able to upgrade to the e3-1290 v2, but I have only found that the TS430 is spec'd to run it.
My TS130 is quiet dated and it does not even have USB 3.0. I added a USB 3.0 expansion card and a 2GB GeForce GT 710 graphics card to support 3840x2160. Unlikely I will spend more money on it. Once I get a better desktop say 2-3 years from now I will use the TS130 as my headless file server. The TS130 is currently running Win8.1 x64 and I am not sure if it can run Win10Pro x64.
 
My TS130 is quiet dated and it does not even have USB 3.0. I added a USB 3.0 expansion card and a 2GB GeForce GT 710 graphics card to support 3840x2160. Unlikely I will spend more money on it. Once I get a better desktop say 2-3 years from now I will use the TS130 as my headless file server. The TS130 is currently running Win8.1 x64 and I am not sure if it can run Win10Pro x64.
Many systems didn't have usb 3.0 when it came out, so no biggie. The TS130 actually is a server, so it should work well as a server. :D Anything that can run win7 or 8 can usually run 10, but the older OSes generally will be faster as newer OSes are more demanding for no real reason other than 'newer'.
 

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Anything that can run win7 or 8 can usually run 10, but the older OSes generally will be faster as newer OSes are more demanding for no real reason other than 'newer'
Agreed but the are programs that only run in Win10. I am reasonably happy with Win8.1 but may not have a choice but to upgrade.
 
Agreed but the are programs that only run in Win10. I am reasonably happy with Win8.1 but may not have a choice but to upgrade.
Yep that's a different story--then you have no choice. With 16gb you should be okay on ram, but I would beef up that gpu if you can to something more powerful as that will help with all the fancy unnecessary graphics rendering for just basic stuff. You can also shut some of that crap off, which helps.
 
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The rewards for experimenting can be quite sweet
Hi Samir, TS130 user manual says "Each slot supports 8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 UDIMMs with the ECC technology". The Intel Xeon spec says "DDR3 1333/1600". Both agreed max memory is 32GB. So which do you think is correct - max 1333 MHz or 1600 MHz?
 

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