Intel core i5 8400 vs Ryzen 5 1600 with GTX 1060

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Really really confused here !

What will be a better option in January 2018 ?

Intel i5 8400 and Gigabyte Z370M D3H Motherboard with 8gb Single Channel DDR4 RAM

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Ryzen 5 1600 with Asus Prime B350M-K with 8X2 (16gb) Dual Channel DDR4 RAM

GPU I have : GTX 1060 6gb

P.S. : Considering Intel's cheaper B360 & H370 motherboards has still not been released untill then, otherwise there would be no question !

PC builders, help !
 
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For a 1060 or even a 1070, Ryzen 5 1600 is the pick for 60 Hz monitor. For refresh rates higher than 80ish you would need an intel i5 8600k or above (as they can be overclocked). i5 8400 can never be overclocked and it comes with a higher useless platform cost. Ryzen 5 1600 on the other hand, can be overclocked on the stock cooler to about 70% of its potential, maybe even more. Even without overclocking, you wont notice a difference between 8400 and 1600 for FHD 60 FPS target at ultra (which 1060 is very well made for).

Please see the reviews below. Even for CPU intensive games such as Civ VI, AOTS, BF1 (which loves cores and threads), you would notice that i5 8400 is generally faster, BUT, R5 1600 is maintaining minimum FPS well...
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Oh ok, it really comes down to if you care to overclock and upgrade path as AMD is using the same socket (AM4) until 2020. Once the 1600 is overclocked the speed isn't much slower then the 8400 and it does have the additional threads if you want to stream and run a few thing at a time.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3939vs3919

Also if you can get 16gb of RAM with the AMD build it seems a bit better honestly.
 
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Those two options above are the same price? Cause i almost hate to say it ( i have the 1600), but just for gaming would i pick the i5 8400. Have to say that the gpu doesn't get bottlenecked by either cpu.

Ask this since with the Ryzen system you get 2x8gb of ram which i would prefer,just like Wildcard i see now :) (make it some 2666mhz<->3200mhz). I don't really care for the choice of motherboard with the Ryzen 1600 though,would like to use something better,with some cooling on the vrm's for instance.Some decent lower budget options.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/2pnG3C,CczZxr,dWL7YJ,jXcMnQ/
 
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Well no, those two options are not the same price. Due to non availability of cheaper Intel motherboards at the moment, an i5 set up will cost me around $20-$30 more than the Ryzen set up. (If I take same amount of RAM for both)

However , for Ryzen I have seen plenty of benchmarking videos where Single channel 8gb RAM is really holding back the performance than dual channel 16gb RAM , whereas for i5 8400 that is not the case, performance difference between 1X8gb and 2X8gb is marginal. So if I include the cost of another RAM, then obviously the Ryzen costs me a bit more.

So really confused 🙁
 
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So you are saying picking up the i5 8600k , even if I am getting it just a $40 more than the i5 8400 , would be a bad investment ?
 
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If you are gaming at 60Hz then I would recommend the Ryzen 5 1500X with 16GB of high speed dual channel RAM. You don't really need 6 cores for gaming and you could put the money saved towards something else.
 
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But what about a little bit of future proofing ? We can see already some games like Assassin's Creed ORIGINS are already being benifitted from 6 cores and struggling quite a bit with 4 cores
 
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Not a surprise as it is a very badly optimized Ubisoft title. They are known for their terrible performance optimization in games.

So I guess it depends if you plan to play Ubisoft titles or not. If so, consider the Ryzen 5 1600.

No recent title should struggle on a modern quad-core/eight-thread CPU.

Virtually all recent titles will scale well on recent quad-core CPU's especially if they have 8 threads.
 
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The Ryzen is better than the i5 in terms of multi-core performance, but the i5 has better quad core/single core performance. But either one are good choices since the GPU will bottleneck either one anyway.
 
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For a 1060 or even a 1070, Ryzen 5 1600 is the pick for 60 Hz monitor. For refresh rates higher than 80ish you would need an intel i5 8600k or above (as they can be overclocked). i5 8400 can never be overclocked and it comes with a higher useless platform cost. Ryzen 5 1600 on the other hand, can be overclocked on the stock cooler to about 70% of its potential, maybe even more. Even without overclocking, you wont notice a difference between 8400 and 1600 for FHD 60 FPS target at ultra (which 1060 is very well made for).

Please see the reviews below. Even for CPU intensive games such as Civ VI, AOTS, BF1 (which loves cores and threads), you would notice that i5 8400 is generally faster, BUT, R5 1600 is maintaining minimum FPS well above 100. Which is why you will not percieve any difference in performance. If we talk about high refresh displays, then of course, the suggestion changes in favor of i5 8400 but only when it is accompanied by 16 GB of RAM and 1080 or 1070ti level cards. In my opinion, you would get benefits from R5 1600/2x8GB RAM much more than i5 8500/2x8GB RAM, let alone one stick of 8GB RAM. In your situation, getting an R5 1600 makes more sense. And, down the line you will see that games will slowly shift to favor more cores/more threads than single core speeds, now that AMD holds significant amount of market and there is no longer a monopoly by Intel restricting the consumers to maximum of 4C/8T thereby forcing developers/publishers/producers to not favor higher core count.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-coffee-lake-core-i5-8400-cpu,5281-4.html
https://www.techspot.com/review/1502-intel-core-i5-8400/page3.html
 
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So the unanimous decision seems to favour towards a Ryzen 5 1600 with 2X8gb of RAM !

I hope that's a good choice and future proof for atleast another 3-4 years (in terms of CPU)
 
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Not unanimous,and that comes from a Ryzen 1600 owner,but it's up to you.A review about the i5 8400.

it sometimes does trail the 1600,but that's when that cpu is overclocked and to 4ghz no less something you wont get on the stock cooler and maybe not at all. The i5 8400 can be se to run at max turbo on all cores,something called Multicore Enhancement. This is a kind of overclocking and for this you should have a decent cooler,but those can be found for around $20.To this that money ($40 difference) could go to or as said the extra ram.

Don't get me wrong i would love for you to get a Ryzen 1600,even just to keep AMD in the race,and despite of that it will do great,but in my honest opinion do i think that the i5 8400 is better for gaming.
 
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1080p - 60 FPS is all I care about. Really don't need anything more. In that case ?
 
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Depending on what you have now, you might even be happy with and could save more money with an R3 1200 as a placeholder until the new Pinnacle Ridge processors start rolling in around March. It should do pretty well on a 1060 and you can play around with overclocking.
 
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