News Intel Core i7-11700K Appears to Beat AMD in Geekbench 5

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How about comparing 8c to 8c.

https://hothardware.com/news/intel-core-i7-11700k-ryzen-7-5800x-benchmark-leak

And 2nd Geekbench numbers mean nothing.
The numbers reported by Tom’s Hardware for the 5800X are fine. Here is a list from the Geekbench 5 browser. SC score for the 5800X is around 1700±50 and MC score is around 10500±500.
These two ES 11700K cpus both had a SC score of over 1800 (1807 and 1810) and MC score of 10673 and 11304.
Intel-Core-i7-11700K-8-Core-Rocket-Lake-Desktop-CPU-Benchmark-Leak-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X-_1.png (1031×1230) (wccftech.com)

The Hot Hardware’s numbers about the 5800X (SC: 1816 and MC: 12065) are heavily overclocked results (both core frequency and RAM).

I also need to say here that the article makes a mistake chalking down Intel’s win to AVX-512. Geekbench 5 is collection of tests weighted to give a single score. Only 1-2 of those tests take advantage of AVX-512. So, this is on the most part a win for Intel without AVX-512. I also don't believe for a second that Intel will release a cpu that will get beaten by an already existing AMD cpu and that of the same core count. Even if IPC wasn't enough they would tweak the frequency so that it edges out what the competition is offering.
 

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I've been starting to take increasingly more issue with Geekbench average scores. Zen 2 CPUs initially performed unreasonably well because of Geekbench's memory usage. Since then we've repeatedly seen how certain CPUs seem to vastly outperform others because they had dedicated accelerators or instruction sets for exotic use cases. I suppose some of these use cases are more common for phones, but it still makes it extremely hard to compare CPUs in a way that makes sense for the consumer.

I'm not saying that these things shouldn't be tested, but the weighting seems off, especially for desktop chips.

EDIT: this is not to mention laptop CPUs, where comparing them is a dumpsterfire on its own.
 
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The numbers reported by Tom’s Hardware for the 5800X are fine. Here is a list from the Geekbench 5 browser. SC score for the 5800X is around 1700±50 and MC score is around 10500±500.
These two ES 11700K cpus both had a SC score of over 1800 (1807 and 1810) and MC score of 10673 and 11304.
Intel-Core-i7-11700K-8-Core-Rocket-Lake-Desktop-CPU-Benchmark-Leak-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X-_1.png (1031×1230) (wccftech.com)

The Hot Hardware’s numbers about the 5800X (SC: 1816 and MC: 12065) are heavily overclocked results (both core frequency and RAM).

I also need to say here that the article makes a mistake chalking down Intel’s win to AVX-512. Geekbench 5 is collection of tests weighted to give a single score. Only 1-2 of those tests take advantage of AVX-512. So, this is on the most part a win for Intel without AVX-512. I also don't believe for a second that Intel will release a cpu that will get beaten by an already existing AMD cpu and that of the same core count. Even if IPC wasn't enough they would tweak the frequency so that it edges out what the competition is offering.

I will be waiting for reviews over a board range of applications geek bench like user benchmark doesn't hold much weight with me.
 
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I also don't believe for a second that Intel will release a cpu that will get beaten by an already existing AMD cpu and that of the same core count.
Intel had to release something to improve its standing against AMD's lineup regardless of how much ground it makes up since its existing parts are starting to lag behind. I doubt Intel enjoys having to make larger fewer cores CPUs on 14nm to keep up with AMD but on-going issues with 10nm and delays on 7nm are forcing its hand.
 

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Finally some good news from Intel. Release of new CPUs will mark the price drop of new Ryzen CPUs and looks like Rocket Lake will be worth the wait, especially given that I cannot purchase recently released GPU.